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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There's a consistent, a significant number of biology teachers in public schools who are creationists," says Randy Moore, a professor of biology at the University of Minnesota who has written extensively on what might be called the "closet creationism" in public schools. "Despite decades of science education reform, these numbers have remained pretty consistent."

The great majority of science teachers accept and teach evolutionary theory, but in a national survey this year, one-third of teachers said that they have faced pressure to marginalize the subject, chiefly from parents and students, and that they often do so to avoid conflicts.

It is not their place to determine the educational standards. If they will not do their jobs they need to be fired immediately.

I am not necessarily for evolution or creationism in this context, but I have little patience for teachers who take politics into the classroom, right or left. If we praise these teachers then we will have to keep quiet the next time a teacher brings leftist propaganda into the classroom.

When I was in the military we used to fine and demote sailors who would drink underage. While noone agreed with the policy (if you willing to die for your country you should be able to have a beer), we follow the laws. Why? Because that was our job. Teachers have jobs as well that require them to follow the policies.

4 posted on 11/27/2005 2:10:45 AM PST by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.-Adm H Rickover)
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To: burzum

"I am not necessarily for evolution or creationism in this context, but I have little patience for teachers who take politics into the classroom, right or left."

What does politics have to do with science? Any good teacher would present differing ideas in any subject.


5 posted on 11/27/2005 2:19:09 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: burzum

Well said.


10 posted on 11/27/2005 2:38:33 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit ("A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both." - Dwight D. Eisenhower)
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To: burzum
"It is not their place to determine the educational standards. If they will not do their jobs they need to be fired immediately."

If the content of instruction is influenced and moderated by PARENTS (parental pressure) of the children being instructed, then the teachers ARE doing their job. The decisions in these matters need to be deferred to the PARENTS more than to the university social engineers in the education departments.

Our children are home schooled. AND our property tax bill reveals that we are forced nonetheless to help finance the government's education system. We are DETERMINED that we WILL have some say-so regarding educational content. We can see some of the state's education standards manifested in the young people that get off the school bus at our street corner. Some of what we see is the result of parental neglect "next door." And much of what we see comes out of the government school classrooms.
35 posted on 11/27/2005 3:19:56 AM PST by Free Baptist
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To: burzum

"When I was in the military we used to fine and demote sailors who would drink underage."

When were you in? In my day, if you were old enough to put on a uniform, you were old enough to go to the club and drink.


54 posted on 11/27/2005 6:24:18 AM PST by dsc
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To: burzum

And when the government declares martial law and comes to collect your guns you'll hand all of them over because it's now the law, and when they come for the Jews you'll be glad it wasn't you, etc.

Exactly what happened in Germany in the late 1930s.

Sooner or later people must rise up. It has happened before in our history. Only 1/3 were actively in favor of our revolt from Great Britain in 1775. They were disobeying the law to revolt you know.

Evolution and the Earth religion (aka environmentalism) that goes hand in hand with it are slow motion genocide IMO. Evolution demeans man from his rightful position as the crown of creation and environmentalism equates him to a worm which results in public policies that injure and kill humans.


55 posted on 11/27/2005 6:33:04 AM PST by enviros_kill
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