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More proof that once we broaden the definition of marriage, there is no limit to combinations kooks will think of. Next up, pets and inanimate objects as mates.
1 posted on 11/28/2005 7:46:25 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Doesn't even have to involve people--my cockatiel can marry my cousin's VCR.


2 posted on 11/28/2005 7:49:44 PM PST by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

It'd be nice if you'd format and/or summarize.


3 posted on 11/28/2005 7:49:57 PM PST by Mamzelle (victory was declared in your absence)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I think I might agree, but the lack of paragraphs made me blind before I could finish reading.


4 posted on 11/28/2005 7:49:58 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I wonder why Utah denizens are Utahns and not Utahans. (It'd be pronounced the same.)
5 posted on 11/28/2005 7:50:46 PM PST by Xenalyte ("Every day should be the best day ever!" -Frank DellaPenna, Cast in Bronze)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

"Next up, pets and inanimate objects as mates."

Actually, I wager that the next step will be blood kin. I expect that in the next five to ten years siblings or other near kin (aunts and uncles with nieces/nephews, first cousins, etc.) will attempt to "marry". You are very correct in stating that once one widens the definition of marriage, the freaks will pop-up in droves.


6 posted on 11/28/2005 7:51:30 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
sooooo..... does this mean that in Utah, a woman can have 3 husbands?? (who each are a variation on Matthew McConaughey, live for doing dishes, and are genetically disposed to sending flowers on every Important Occasion?)

JUST WONDERIN, OKAY???

;)

9 posted on 11/28/2005 7:54:51 PM PST by wigswest
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Utah abandoned polygamy to become a state, and the Mormans abandoned it, because Congress was about to disincorporate the religion, and effectively shut it down in a financial sense.
14 posted on 11/28/2005 8:01:39 PM PST by Torie
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Pingaroo


15 posted on 11/28/2005 8:02:49 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Until 1963, interracial marriages were illegal in Utah. Residents who suffered chronic epileptic seizures and were not sterilized also were barred from marrying in the state.

And, until 1993, anyone who had syphilis, gonorrhea or HIV could not make that walk down the aisle.

Now, in 2005, three Utahns who want to unite as husband, wife and wife say their preferred form of marriage also should be allowed.

They are asking the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to reverse a federal judge's rejection of their challenge to state prohibitions against bigamy and polygamy.

"The fact [that] much of American legal culture is based on monogamy does not justify a ban on polygamy," their attorney, Brian Barnard, of Salt Lake City, wrote in a brief filed this month with the Denver-based appeals court.

Barnard argued that a 2003 U.S. Supreme Court decision striking down a Texas law that prohibited sexual conduct between same-sex couples "provides individuals with protection from state intrusion as to intimate relationships."

On Dec. 22, 2003, G. Lee Cook tried to obtain a marriage license from the Salt Lake County Clerk's Office to wed a woman, identified in court papers as J. Bronson. Cook's legal wife was identified as D. Cook. G. Lee Cook wrote on the application that he already was married and told clerks that he wanted to legally marry a second wife. The clerks refused to issue a marriage license and refunded a $50 fee.

The three - who are all more than 45 years old and say polygamous marriage is a requirement for their exaltation and eternal salvation - filed suit in federal court against the clerks. The legal action seeks to overturn an 1879 decision by the U.S. Supreme Court, Reynolds v. United States, that upheld Utah's ban on polygamy.

In February, U.S. District Judge Ted Stewart rejected the argument that the prohibition on polygamy is an unconstitutional violation of religious and privacy rights and ruled that the state has an interest in protecting monogamous marriage.

Stewart also ruled that even the 2003 opinion in Lawrence v. Texas over the sodomy law did not grant a right to plural marriage, noting that the laws against bigamy and polygamy do not preclude private sexual conduct.

Under Utah law, Barnard says, married people living in a sexual relationship with someone who is not their spouse is guilty of bigamy, and deceit or a second marriage ceremony are not required elements of the crime. But although that provision makes it illegal for a married man to live with a girlfriend before his divorce is final, the law has been used to target polygamists, he contends.

There is no compelling governmental interest that makes the prohibition against religious polygamy constitutional, he argues in the brief.

Utah also officially abandoned plural marriage, in part, lawyers for the state say, because of social problems associated with polygamy; the exploitation of women and girls; and the encouragement of responsible procreation.

Barnard counters that the state does not regulate exploitative relationships between other couples, and if there were a compelling reason to promote responsible procreation, Utah would step into all family situations. Yet, there are no sanctions against an unwed mother who rears children alone, and there is no statute barring parents from divorcing and raising their children in separate households.

"The state does not restrict nor ban 'serial polygamists,' individuals who repeatedly marry, conceive children and divorce a series of spouses."

pmanson@sltrib.com

17 posted on 11/28/2005 8:05:09 PM PST by Torie
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I think Polygamy is protected under the Penumbra Article of the Constitution.


19 posted on 11/28/2005 8:06:19 PM PST by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I heard that men talk about 1000 words/day whereas women use 4000/day. Anyone wanting more then one wife gets what they ask for.

Can you imagine coming home and having three wives saying "Honey, we need to TALK".

21 posted on 11/28/2005 8:10:48 PM PST by freedomlover (This Fall a Woman will be the Mother of a Mouse)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Another reason we need a marriage defined as between one man and one woman...


22 posted on 11/28/2005 8:10:52 PM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

More proof that paragraphs are our friends.


23 posted on 11/28/2005 8:11:13 PM PST by freedomlover (This Fall a Woman will be the Mother of a Mouse)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Polygyny has more historical precedent than 'gay marriage'.


27 posted on 11/28/2005 8:21:50 PM PST by supercat (Sony delinda est.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
For the love of God, one wife is enough!

More seriously, there's a Wisconsin brother and sister convicted of incest who are appealing, arguing that Lawrence invalidates such laws. I believe the first level appeal was rejected, but the judge sure had to do some fancy legal wrangling to avoid that conclusion.

29 posted on 11/28/2005 8:26:28 PM PST by pierrem15
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To: ChildOfThe60s
say polygamous marriage is a requirement for ... eternal salvation

I'm still trying to figure out how one of us guys could say that with a straight face! LOL

Then I'm trying to figure out how they get these women to believe it. Alcohol?
34 posted on 11/28/2005 8:37:58 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Polygamy usually consists of predatory older men preying on young and vulnerable while hiding behind religion.


36 posted on 11/28/2005 9:09:14 PM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf. (All religious headdress). The effect will creat a huge domino effect..)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
3 Utahns try to open door for polygamy

I am of mixed minds about polygamy: On one hand, you have multiple expenses and headaches -- on the other hand, there is the group sex.

45 posted on 11/29/2005 7:20:56 AM PST by Lazamataz (When life gives you lemons, kick it in the shins and take its wallet.)
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