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Ben Stein - A few respectful thoughts about the war in Iraq. (excellent read)
The American Spectator ^ | 11/21/2005 12:10:11 AM | Ben Stein

Posted on 11/29/2005 6:51:05 PM PST by Former Military Chick

Herewith, admittedly from the safety of the glorious nation called The United States of America, far from Ar-Ramadi, a few respectful thoughts about the war in Iraq:

1.) Conducting the war against al-Qaeda and the terrorists is a major drain on the energies of this administration. It would be a major drain on the energies of any administration. For Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald to be further draining the energies of the administration with his perjury indictment of Scooter Libby would be a matter for the most urgent concern if the charges against Libby were serious. But since by common consent of every serious criminal lawyer I have talked to, they are simply matters of routine politics being made criminal so that Fitzgerald can get on the cover of magazines -- this is scandalous. That is, to bring perjury charges over a matter where there is no underlying crime is always considered highly questionable behavior by a prosecutor. But to do so against an official helping to wage a war is almost unbelievable. The comparison that comes to mind is a DA indicting a soldier fighting in Iraq on an old speeding ticket. Prosecutors have wide latitude to bring or not bring charges. For Mr. Fitzgerald to have such poor judgment as to weaken and enervate the only government we have over a total triviality that will almost certainly turn out not to be a crime is an abuse of prosecutorial discretion on a dismaying scale. It would be different (but not much) in peacetime. But in wartime, it is so bad that it unnerves the mind.

I am sure that Mr. Fitzgerald, like all of us, wants to be a good citizen and wants to do his job. I am also certain that he likes being famous. That's human nature. But what he is doing (I am sure not in intent, but in effect) is a great service to Abu-Musad al-Zarqawi and Osama bin Laden, and a great disservice to his country and to the law. It is not too late for him to drop the charges, dignify himself and his office, and go back to prosecuting criminals. I cannot believe this man would, if he thought about it, want to spend one iota of his energy helping the enemies of this country, but in my humble opinion, that's just what he's doing. I may be wrong.

2.) It is not just a guess, but a certainty that if the U.S. were to abruptly withdraw from Iraq, as the Democrats are urging us to do, there would be a bloodbath in Iraq far worse than what we have seen so far. There would be outright civil war, large scale massacres of civilian populations beyond what we have seen by an order of magnitude, and a Middle East in chaos as Iran, the Kurds, and the Sunnis fought it out for land and oil and power. The word of the United States would be mud. Is this really what the Democrats want? Can they really contemplate with calm equanimity the mass murders that will follow a sudden U.S. withdrawal?

I see a frightening pattern here: the Democrats wanted us out of Vietnam, and never mind the genocide that followed. The Democrats want us out of Iraq and never mind that the Baathists will fill the vacuum and all Iraq will be screaming in pain except the murderers, who will exult -- especially Osama bin Laden. Can it be that the Democrats really want to surrender to the same man who killed 3,000 civilians on 9/11 and laughed about it? Are we so weak that in only four years, after a war smaller in casualties than many unknown battles of the Civil War, we are already eager to surrender to the man who murdered women and children and made terrified couples hold hands and leap to their deaths from the World Trade Center? If so, there really is little hope for us as a people. My prayer is that careful reflection will convince the Democrats that while we are all unhappy about the war, war is hell, and surrender is far worse. Maybe the Copperheads in the Democrat party, like those who wanted appeasement of the slave owners one hundred and forty years ago, will be a minority, and those who want to keep up the fight for human decency will prevail even as the Neville Chamberlains speak of peace at any price.

3.) I have a voluminous correspondence with soldiers and Marines in Iraq. To a man and woman, they do not want to walk away and make their comrades' deaths meaningless. They hate the war. They hate the dying. They grieve. So do their families. But they believe in their mission and they do not want their brothers' losses to be in vain. Their voices should be listened to.

4.) Insurgencies by highly motivated people are extremely hard to stamp out. This is especially true in Arab countries, where bravery is fanatically motivated by religion and personal unhappiness. But suppressing rebellions has been done in Egypt, Algeria, and Israel. It takes a lot of ugliness to do it. This is war, especially guerrilla war. It is horrible that we are in this kind of war, but we are in it, and it will never be won except by the most severe means. Whatever we do, however, it will be nothing compared with the firebombing of Tokyo, the carpet bombing of every German city, the atom bomb on Hiroshima. That is the awful truth: wars are won by horrific measures. It is deeply tragic, but it's true. If we are not willing to adopt strict measures, we will not and cannot win.

It is all very sad. But Saddam Hussein was even sadder and more atrocious, the Stalin of the Middle East, and for all of the pain of Iraq -- and it is terrifying -- progress is being made.

5.) There is no end to the gratitude we must feel towards the men and women fighting this war, and their families. As Thanksgiving approaches, our number one task is to be thankful we still have brave men and women ready to sacrifice all for our lazy fat selves and our freedoms. Let us not use that freedom to betray their sacrifice.


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To: ClaireSolt

Oh Yeah! Plame is about two inches from the edge of being fired anyway. And about 10 inches from a treason charge.
Retire into ignominy Valerie! Her major problem is she's only a half inch from Joe Wilson.( LOL)

These buffoons will go down in history as two of the most major dufusses of the decade.


41 posted on 11/29/2005 9:08:23 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Former Military Chick

Stein's droll humor is a crafty fade to his surprising intellect. His insight is an arrow which splits the Democrats' grievous deceptions. After his analysis, I can see my own feelings about our men and women's sacrifice in the face of these scoundrels' self serving lies, in a much better light. Stein for Senator... that would really shake things up!


42 posted on 11/29/2005 9:49:56 PM PST by krinkrayyado (Huguenot in my church)
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To: Christian4Bush

Glad you got a kick out of it as I did - plenty of political toons every weekday morning, collected by pookie18, in Today's Toons (search if you haven't been there before, and he has a ping list).


43 posted on 11/29/2005 9:55:14 PM PST by easonc52
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To: jan in Colorado

Ping


44 posted on 11/29/2005 10:22:47 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Thanks for the ping. Ben's clarity is refreshing and right on target.


45 posted on 11/29/2005 10:35:26 PM PST by Rabble (Just When is John F sKerry going to release his USNR military records ?)
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To: Former Military Chick

Bump for later review


46 posted on 11/30/2005 1:37:01 AM PST by stevem
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To: Former Military Chick

VERY nice. Thanks!

BUMP!!!


47 posted on 11/30/2005 3:08:11 AM PST by Seadog Bytes (“The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.”—Edmund Burke)
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To: Former Military Chick
The Democrats want us out of Iraq and never mind that the Baathists will fill the vacuum and all Iraq will be screaming in pain except the murderers, who will exult -- especially Osama bin Laden. Can it be that the Democrats really want to surrender to the same man who killed 3,000 civilians on 9/11 and laughed about it? Are we so weak that in only four years, after a war smaller in casualties than many unknown battles of the Civil War, we are already eager to surrender to the man who murdered women and children and made terrified couples hold hands and leap to their deaths from the World Trade Center? If so, there really is little hope for us as a people.

Isn't this precisely what the Democrats want?

48 posted on 11/30/2005 3:55:24 AM PST by stevem
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To: RHINO369

Do you have a link for streaming audio?


49 posted on 11/30/2005 4:14:10 AM PST by jslade ("We're surrounded. That simplifies the problem."- "Chesty" Puller, USMC)
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To: Former Military Chick

I'd like to add #6:

If America and the West don't fight and defeat Islamofascism in Iraq and the middle East, the Islamofascists will nuke New York City and Washington DC and other American cities off the map as soon as they can.

As far as I'm concerned, that's the main reason to fight the Islamofascists.


50 posted on 11/30/2005 6:25:46 AM PST by garyhope (.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Thanx for the ping, firstly. Secondly ... "I cannot believe this man (Fitzgerald) would, if he thought about it, want to spend one iota of his energy helping the enemies of this country, but in my humble opinion, that's just what he's doing. I may be wrong." ... this prosecutor is serving his first love, the democrap party (I know it appears that he's 'unbiased', apolitical in leanings, but his actions speak far louder than anything else), and it is that party, nearly to the last politician (Lieberman excluded), which is now consciously and in cogent calculation aiding and abetting the terrorist enemy we fight around the world, done with full understanding that they are hurting our troops and aiding the killers of our troops with their lust for getting back in power. But that should surprise no one since it is this same party which defends the slaughter of more than 40,000,000 alive unborn as a means to empower their political ghouls through 'choice'.

Ben is too much the gentleman to put it this way, but the democrat party is filled with leftists so dangerous and so seditious now, they need to be swept from the political landscape and sent to 'never-again land'.

Sadly, the current pubbie leadership in Congress has proven themselves to be just as corrupt in out-of-control spending, with the added flaw of believing they can write unlimited checks upon an account that is not growing in a healthy fashion (taxes), and I won't even address the lack of Republican cajones to fight the needed battles over Constitutionally conservative judges and legislation to end the government/court protected slaughter of alive unborn children and exploitation of the unborn at embryo age.

Americans don't realize it yet, but this nation is at the brink of drowning in caca, ripe to embrace the worst future wrapped in a Hatellary Rodhamster presidency.

51 posted on 11/30/2005 6:43:09 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Former Military Chick

bump


52 posted on 11/30/2005 6:51:52 AM PST by VOA
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To: Former Military Chick

Can you add me to the Stein ping list?

Ben Stein just makes sense.


53 posted on 11/30/2005 7:13:21 AM PST by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Is this really what the Democrats want? Can they really contemplate with calm equanimity the mass murders that will follow a sudden U.S. withdrawal?

Why not? They managed just fine doing that with Cambodia and South Vietnam.

54 posted on 11/30/2005 7:16:23 AM PST by kevkrom (403-3)
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To: sgtbono2002

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I'd like to draft Ben Stein for President.
<<

I'm with you. Any other takers?


55 posted on 11/30/2005 11:56:29 AM PST by noblejones (Ben Stein for President, 2008.)
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To: Former Military Chick

Dated only nine-ten days ago, so discursive and fickle are our "news-cycles", that there are references in this piece we have already forgotten about. What happened to "the climate of corruption" the Dems were having a field day with 6 or 8 weeks ago? The Tom De Lay indictment, this Wilson/Valerie Plame non-story, and another one I can't remember now, but what=the=hell, it's already been replaced by the Duke Cunningham bribery charges. It looks like both Wilson and his wife, not to mention Fitzgerald were pursuing this "story" ( and that's what it was), merely for the purpose of FINALLY getting the opportunity to become celebrities. As the days and weeks wind on, it will fade and fade and fade some more, and even the Dems who a month ago were beating the drums for "NO PARDONS" , in a pathetic orgy of premature ejaculation,will let it go, because nothing had been proven against Rove or Libby or anyone else, and never will. That's not what this was about, but it tragically IS what partisan politics is about in our country in the early 21st Century: clamor,
drum-beating,posturing, imagery, innuendo, guilty-til-proven innocent, and the policy of "let's play it out as far and long as we can, so that the imagery of guilt will linger even after the investigation ends and the charges are dropped, and this "thing" that monopolized the political news for MONTHS will in retrospect, prove to be just another pageant of smoke and mirrors, or as Shakespeare put it, "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".
Having said all that, thanks for posting this piece, which is one of the most heartfelt things I have read from Ben/


56 posted on 11/30/2005 5:32:28 PM PST by willyboyishere ("When the superficial wearies me, it wearies me so much that I need an abyss in order to rest".....)
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To: Former Military Chick

War ends when the victor brings the defeated to the point that they lose either the ability or the will to fight.


57 posted on 12/01/2005 7:14:37 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Former Military Chick; afraidfortherepublic; Alexander Rubin; Alien Gunfighter; Checkers; dakine; ..
I've been busy lately so I haven't been able to keep the ping as quickly as I hoped. Ben Stein Ping

Tell me if you want on.


58 posted on 12/08/2005 6:33:31 PM PST by Purple GOPer (The government is a group of people who are usually ungoverned.)
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To: Former Military Chick

BTTT


59 posted on 12/08/2005 7:06:13 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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