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Republican Senator blames Democrats for deaths of children
RadioIowa ^ | November 30, 2005 | O.Kay Henderson

Posted on 11/30/2005 9:16:14 PM PST by richierichIII

Republican Senator blames Democrats for deaths of children

A Republican Senator is accusing Democrats in the Senate who oppose the death penalty of causing the deaths of children who're the victims of a kidnapping or sexual abuse. Republican Senator Larry McKibben of Marshalltown made his comments this (Wednesday) morning during a statehouse news conference.

McKibben says there's a "de facto death sentence for children" today in Iowa. "If you kidnap someone or rape someone, either one of those is life in prison without the possibility of parole. What is the next logical step move for the kidnapper and rapist to do? Simply murder the victim," McKibben says. McKibben repeatedly tried, without success, to get a Senate debate on the death penalty last spring. The Democrat Leader in the Senate blocked that debate. "I think by the Senate Democrats not allowing us to have that debate and have that discussion, they've de facto given us a death penalty and it's a death penalty for minor children in this state," McKibben says. "I think it's time that that ends."

McKibben argues that the death penalty for child killers would be a deterrent and save lives. McKibben says it's time to stop finding children "in rivers or in shallow graves or stuffed in cabinets." The body of Evelyn Miller, the girl murdered this summer in Floyd County, was found in a river and the body of Jetseta Gage, the Cedar Rapids girl raped and murdered allegedly at the hands of a convicted sex offender, was found stuffed in a cabinet in a mobile home.

McKibben is urging Iowans to lobby their legislators to enact a death penalty for anyone who murders a child. "I think we need to tell the people of Iowa it's time to contact your local state senator and say 'We want (you) to have this debate in the spring of 2006," McKibben says.

Senator Keith Kreiman, a Democrat from Bloomfield, takes a shot back at McKibben. Kreiman says Republicans have refused to provide enough money to the state's child protective services system, and those budget constraints have ended up being a death penalty for some kids, too. Kreiman and McKibben are both members of a legislative panel that's meeting today (Wednesday) at the statehouse, reviewing Iowa's sex offender laws.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: childabuse; evelynmiller
What are we going to do to deter crime against children. We feel that one reason our granddaughter, Evelyn Miller, was murdered was that she may have threatened to disclose information or the perpetrator thought that she would. This law might be a deterent.

The current 2000 foot rule is a unworkable solution to controling Iowa's sex criminals. Replace it with a GPS banding program paid for by the released prisoners. Then allow realtime Internet viewing of sex criminal locations with a click on a trail bringing up the mug shot of the perp in question.

More thought should also be given to the types of offenders "watched". Many are not a great danger but there are many who are. Someone - sort that out first.

Also this would be a great trial run for the technology of GPS bands. They would be great for banding DUI violators. On a second conviction the driver would also receive lifetime probation - The Cuff - and perhaps a special plate for their cars, alerting officers to every convicted DUI driver and their locations.

1 posted on 11/30/2005 9:16:15 PM PST by richierichIII
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To: richierichIII

truth hurts.


2 posted on 11/30/2005 9:19:59 PM PST by Crim (I may be a Mr "know it all"....but I'm also a Mr "forgot most of it"...)
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To: richierichIII

Maybe we should go on the demogoging offense against the left. Absolutely.


3 posted on 11/30/2005 9:20:16 PM PST by jocon307
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To: richierichIII

100% effective cure for child molesters.

4 posted on 11/30/2005 9:20:44 PM PST by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: Vigilanteman

If they want to keep track of child molesters, they will always be able to find them under a grave marker.


6 posted on 11/30/2005 9:28:47 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Bush! Go Sharon!)
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To: Vigilanteman

The ONLY "rehabilitation" that works for 'em!


7 posted on 11/30/2005 10:15:39 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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To: richierichIII
My son Jeremy's killer served 14.5 years of his 20 year plea bargained sentence. I fought 6 parole attempts, the first just 10 months after he was sentenced.

Number 1 eliminate parole and probation, the stats on both are appaling. Parole and probation

Number 2 build MORE prisons Recidivisim 20 years should mean 20 years, not 30% of the 20 years, which is the current serve rate in most states.

Number 3 start executing killers sooner 20 years on death row is not right, our Loved Ones didn't get an extra 20 years.

Number 4 strip the 'goodies' out of prisons, prisoners don't 'need' radios, tv's, CD/VCR's, porn mags, etc. Nor do the women need full nurseries so their babies can visit on the weekends (Tennessee) for which we the Taxserfs pick up the tab on diapers and formula/food as well.

Number 5 stop the plea bargaining on violent crimes.

Number 6 get tough on juvenile crime..they just graduate on to adult crime with us wiping out their records once they turn 18. Keep their records open and apply them to their adult crimes.

Take a look at the COST OF CRIME it is more cost effective to keep them in prison. Yet the gov't prefers parole and probation because the 'cost' of housing them is to high..$55 per day for adults about $160 per day for juveniles...Tennessee vs the $3.00 per day for parole and probation.

8 posted on 12/01/2005 4:02:48 AM PST by GailA (Glory be to GOD and his only son Jesus.)
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I think it's a shame that politicians are trying to use Evelyn's death to their political advantage. The death penalty wouldn't apply to her killer.

Luckily, life in prison in Iowa means life. Under our laws, there is no parole for those given a life sentence here. When caught, Evelyn's killer will rot in prison, he won't be free to kill again.


9 posted on 12/01/2005 7:16:01 AM PST by memories_of_evelyn
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To: richierichIII
The current 2000 foot rule is a unworkable solution to controling Iowa's sex criminals.

It's no solution at all. It's ridiculous. All it does is give politicians a chance to pat themselves on the back and say they did something about the problem. Controlling where these sick b*st*rds sleep is not going to stop them.

Replace it with a GPS banding program paid for by the released prisoners.

That sounds great. But, do you honestly believe we'd collect even 10% of the first year's cost before they all die of old age?

Then allow realtime Internet viewing of sex criminal locations with a click on a trail bringing up the mug shot of the perp in question.

Look. This is ludicrous. IF these people are SO dangerous that we have to monitor their every move in real time, WHY are they not behind bars?

More thought should also be given to the types of offenders "watched". Many are not a great danger but there are many who are. Someone - sort that out first.

Agreed. Any who are deemed to be such a serious threat to society that we need to know their locations at every moment should NOT be released. Period.

I do not believe it is society's duty to protect every child from his or her (naive or reckless or just plain dumb) parent(s). Two questions I have about the Jetseta Gage case: (1) Should the Bentley brothers have been behind bars, and (2) Why did they have access to Jetseta Gage?

Also this would be a great trial run for the technology of GPS bands. They would be great for banding DUI violators. On a second conviction the driver would also receive lifetime probation - The Cuff - and perhaps a special plate for their cars, alerting officers to every convicted DUI driver and their locations.

I believe that would be unnecessarily harsh for the offenders' families.

People who molest children must be stopped from re-offending. Frankly, I'm tired of all the talk of expensive, high-tech gizmos. The real answer is much simpler and inexpensive. Furthermore, carrying out the first 2 or 3 penalties would do wonders for deterrence. Unfortunately, our mollycoddling, feminized society cannot allow it.

10 posted on 12/01/2005 12:12:03 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: richierichIII
The 2000 foot rule doesnt work that is for sure. Last year a man's picture was posted in the Lincoln school lobby as a sex offender. this same man would stand in the Lobby every afternoon waiting to pick up his children from school. I saw this myself. Because he had children in the the school and his known victim was over the age of 12 he was allowed to be in the school whenever he wished.
11 posted on 12/01/2005 4:02:15 PM PST by ccwoman
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To: newgeezer

"Two questions I have about the Jetseta Gage case: (1) Should the Bentley brothers have been behind bars, and (2) Why did they have access to Jetseta Gage?"

I can answer the second question. They had access to Jetseta because her mother made poor parenting decisions and chose to hang out with that type of person. The media has hinted around about Trena Gage's poor parenting, but no one will come out and say it. No one wants to blame the mother of a dead girl. I think a lot of unsavory details about Trena Gage and her choices will come out in January when Roger Bentley goes to trial. That will be one to watch.

I, too, believe our 2000 foot rule is completely ridiculous. The fact is that most children are molested by people they know. "Stranger danger" is not nearly as prevalent as dangers posed by people known to victims, be they child victims or even adult victims of sexual assault. Knowing who you're letting into your life and around your kids is what's of upmost importance here. No state law tracking movement or restricting where someone lives can take the place of good parenting.


12 posted on 12/02/2005 6:35:27 AM PST by memories_of_evelyn
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To: richierichIII

Darned RATS. They're so righteous they don't want to execute a raping, murdering thug, but they never met an abortion they didn't like. THEY'RE SICK!!!


13 posted on 12/06/2005 4:21:16 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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