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Former ambassador speaks on Iraq, CIA leak investigation (Calls Bob Novak an ***hole and a jerk..)
http://www.nu-news.com/media/paper600/news/2005/11/30/News/Former.Ambassador.Speaks.On.Iraq.Cia.Leak.Investigation-1116172.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.nu-news.com ^ | Stephen Babcock

Posted on 12/01/2005 4:03:13 AM PST by rs79bm

A fast-talking, terse former negotiator, Joseph Wilson sat straight in his chair, offering no sign of fatigue from months of questioning and what he called "tawdry political tricks.

Asked about the same topic he has entertained for months - the unveiling of his wife's once-covert spy status by syndicated columnist Robert Novak - he gave a scowl as if to rev his rhetorical engine and spit an answer with lightning pace.

"What this is all about is the 16 words in the [2003] State of the Union Address, but the lackeys in the administration have managed to divert the attention from those 16 words and onto my family," he said, taking no breaths over the course of a minute. "The real issue is the level of threat we faced from Iraq at the time we went to war. I would prefer to be in that debate, seeing as how I have something to offer. Unfortunately, most people want to know what it's like to be Valerie Plame's husband - which I'm also happy to talk about."

In a talk sponsored by the Northeastern College Democrats at Blackman Auditorium Nov. 21, Wilson laid out the story of how he had gone from being a relatively anonymous state department official to "Valerie Plame's husband," sparing few from potent verbal attacks along the way.

Over 90 minutes, the rhetorical engine never slowed down. He was able to provide the audience with most of his career history, his position on both Iraq wars, a full account of the trip to Niger he called the reason for his character assassination and, as a "side issue," his reaction to the outing of his wife's identity as a spy with the CIA.

Wilson, a former ambassador to several African nations and to Baghdad during the 1991 Gulf War, described his position on the current Iraq War as a complete "180" from what he called his "hawkish" position in 1991.

"It was clear to me in 2002 that there was a group of people advocating for war who didn't understand what would happen if we invaded [Iraq]," he said. "Those of us who had some experience could see that the risks far outweighed the positives."

He said his experience meeting with Saddam Hussein just before the United Nations attacked Iraqi forces invading Kuwait in 1991 and helping spur democracy in Niger helped him come to the conclusion democracy was too difficult a road to pursue in Iraq.

"To me, it looked like regime change for the sake of regime change. It was a much harder road than [the Bush administration] thought it would be," he said. "Was there anyone who knew better than me? Probably not."

He referred to the Iraqis as "assholes," and Saddam Hussein as a "madman."

He added he received support for this view from former President George H.W. Bush and former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft.

After he began to publicize his views, he said other pro-war policy makers engaged in character denigration, setting the backdrop by which he claimed his wife's identity was revealed. He said he was accused of being racist, among other charges, during the debate.

He also described the trip to Niger, in which he had found no evidence of the uranium sales President Bush accused Iraq of attempting to acquire for nuclear weapons. The trip was the topic of an op-ed he wrote in the New York Times discrediting Bush's speech, and led to the revelation of his wife's identity, Wilson said.

"I did what most citizens would do - I held my government to account," he said of the op-ed. "I looked at the industry, which I already knew very well, and I looked at other places where the uranium may have been concealed. There was nothing to allege that Iraq attempted to buy uranium. The documents provided to the U.S. were forgeries, and the story was spinning out of control."

Though he said it was a "side issue," Wilson did not hold back judgment regarding the outing of his wife's covert identity.

"My wife was the first American spy to have her identity compromised by the American government," he said.

He also had harsh words for Novak, calling him an "asshole" and a "jerk."

"When I found out [about the unveiling], I was on the second floor of my house," he said. "If Bob Novak had been in the room, he wouldn't have been on the second floor for long."

Despite the theatrics, though, Wilson said there was a larger lesson from his ordeal.

"You will not keep this republic unless you are vigilant in its defense," he said. "Insist on debate, and insist that the debate be based on the facts."

That message resonated with MJ Paradiso, a freshman international business major in attendance.

"I was impressed not only with the way he spoke about his personal story, but also his broader message about standing up for what you think is right," he said.

Other students in attendance, though, were not as impressed. Middler English major Christopher Budnick said the event was a "waste of time," citing "skewed statistics."

"He led with a really interesting statistic, that Valerie Wilson-Plame was the first American spy to have her identity revealed by her own government," Budnick said. "It would be a bit more thrilling if she was, indeed, the first, but talking to a room full of college students can really invigorate you into saying what sounds good."


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bobnovak; cia; cialeak; joewilson; plame
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1 posted on 12/01/2005 4:03:17 AM PST by rs79bm
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To: rs79bm
Former ambassador speaks

Stick a sock in it, Joe.

2 posted on 12/01/2005 4:12:11 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not a strategy”)
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To: rs79bm

The guy is really full of himself, isn't he.
His wife wasn't outed for anything, except being married to an delusional @sshole.


3 posted on 12/01/2005 4:12:51 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: rs79bm
He also had harsh words for Novak, calling him an "asshole" and a "jerk."

What a class act Joe Wilson is... and this clown was an ambassador?

4 posted on 12/01/2005 4:13:45 AM PST by rhombus
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To: rs79bm

"To me, it looked like regime change for the sake of regime change. It was a much harder road than [the Bush administration] thought it would be," he said. "Was there anyone who knew better than me? Probably not."

He referred to the Iraqis as "assholes," and Saddam Hussein as a "madman." </i>

If he added that Joe Wilson was a pompous, over-dramatic, attention-seeking press whore with a Hollywood complex and that his wife was a desk jockey who was more at risk of stabbing herself in the eye with her mascara than anything else, I'd say it was a fair asessment.


5 posted on 12/01/2005 4:14:54 AM PST by Callahan
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To: Forte Runningrock
He has referred to the attempted Niger buy as a "caper". The only "characters" I have ever seen or heard use that expression are Dick Tracy, Bugs Bunny and Maxwell Smart.
6 posted on 12/01/2005 4:15:58 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (It is easy to call for a pi$$ing contest when you aren't going to be in the line of fire.)
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To: rs79bm
"Insist on debate, and insist that the debate be based on the facts."

Well, that let's you out, Joe.

7 posted on 12/01/2005 4:18:47 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Joe Wilson - Maxwell Smart

LOL!!


8 posted on 12/01/2005 4:20:24 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: rs79bm
"Unfortunately, most people want to know what it's like to be Valerie Plame's husband - which I'm also happy to talk about. By the way, did I ever tell you she lets my play with her gun.. it's much bigger than mine. Oh, and did I mention she's a spy and works for the CIA?"
9 posted on 12/01/2005 4:21:50 AM PST by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: rs79bm
"He said his experience meeting with Saddam Hussein just before the United Nations attacked Iraqi forces invading Kuwait in 1991 and helping spur democracy in Niger helped him come to the conclusion democracy was too difficult a road to pursue in Iraq."

Gee, I thought it was USA forces that attacked Saddam and tossed him out of Kuwait,If I recall the UN turned tail and ran when Saddam was crossing the border. Democracy in the M.E. wasn't the agenda at the time. Joe Wilson brought democracy to Niger? Sure he did. Are you skipping your meds Joe? Don't listen to those voices Joe!

10 posted on 12/01/2005 4:25:50 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: rs79bm

You know a guy is in trouble when a real story about him appears to be a parody at first but isn't.


11 posted on 12/01/2005 4:26:18 AM PST by isthisnickcool (America!)
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To: Bahbah
Other students in attendance, though, were not as impressed. Middler English major Christopher Budnick said the event was a "waste of time," citing "skewed statistics."

"He led with a really interesting statistic, that Valerie Wilson-Plame was the first American spy to have her identity revealed by her own government," Budnick said. "It would be a bit more thrilling if she was, indeed, the first, but talking to a room full of college students can really invigorate you into saying what sounds good."


At least their was one intelligent individual in the audience.
12 posted on 12/01/2005 4:28:08 AM PST by rs79bm
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To: rs79bm

Ol Joe Wilson continues to demonstrate that he is a bastion of virtue


13 posted on 12/01/2005 4:28:10 AM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: rs79bm

Talk about liberal "projection"!


14 posted on 12/01/2005 4:29:23 AM PST by Redleg Duke (9/11 - "WE WILL NEVER FORGET!")
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To: Callahan
He referred to the Iraqis as "assholes,"

That says all we need to know about Wilson.

15 posted on 12/01/2005 4:31:09 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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To: Bahbah

Heheheheh. An excellent point, my friend! :-)


16 posted on 12/01/2005 4:32:34 AM PST by saveliberty (Creator - A comedian whose audience is afraid to laugh. HL Mencken)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I guess he has a lot of transferrence.


17 posted on 12/01/2005 4:33:03 AM PST by saveliberty (Creator - A comedian whose audience is afraid to laugh. HL Mencken)
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To: rs79bm
Maybe we should call Joe Wilson "the American Dad". I'm sure he see's himself as that character does.
Someone should call family services and get those twins away from him before he hurts them during a delusional episode.
18 posted on 12/01/2005 4:34:16 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: saveliberty

Our boy Joe is beginning to sound a little unhinged. The highlight of the story for me was to see that there is someone majoring in Middle English AND he is a pretty smart guy.


19 posted on 12/01/2005 4:36:29 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: Bahbah

ROFL! Hooray for Christopher Budnick! He is a very perceptive young man! :-)


20 posted on 12/01/2005 4:39:49 AM PST by saveliberty (Creator - A comedian whose audience is afraid to laugh. HL Mencken)
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To: saveliberty
He referred to the Iraqis as "assholes,"

The more I think about that statement, the more pissed I become. I would love to hear the full quote.

Even the most leftist of the libs in Congress do not/will not say that.

What he is saying is that we have sent our men & women into harm's way to protect a bunch of assholes.

2000 troops have died to protect a bunch of asshioles.

It does not matter whether or not Saddam is gone because he was a madman dictating a bunch of assholes

The broader question is why does Joe have this opinion of the Iraqis? Who in Iraq is not good news for Joe?

The article states:

He referred to the Iraqis as "assholes," and Saddam Hussein as a "madman."

He added he received support for this view from former President George H.W. Bush and former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft.

Is this a poorly written article in terms of construction or did Joe actually imply George HW Bush shared the asshole opinion?

Normally I would say a poorly constructed article, but knowing Joe Wilson's sleaze factor, I would not put anything past him.

Regardless, the statement He referred to the Iraqis as "assholes," needs alot of exposure and we would be doing well to bring that quote to the attention of many who can expand on it.

21 posted on 12/01/2005 4:51:52 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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To: rs79bm
And that relatively anonymous state department official's only claim to fame is what? Oh yeah, being Valerie Plame's husband, which he created himself. What a sad little man.
22 posted on 12/01/2005 4:53:27 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: rs79bm
As much as I detest Joe Wilson, he does have a point. Novak is a jerk.

But Wilson is just throwing up smoke to deflect scrutiny away from himself. Wilson and Plame both need to be indicted.
23 posted on 12/01/2005 4:54:27 AM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: rs79bm

"how he had gone from being a relatively anonymous state department official to "Valerie Plame's husband," sparing few from potent verbal attacks along the way."

If Valerie Plame wasn't outed, he would still be a relatively anonymous RETIRED department official. So it seems to me that her outing was certainly beneficial to Joe Plame.


24 posted on 12/01/2005 4:56:56 AM PST by Toespi
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

It's poorly written because it was some twit from Brown who wrote it.


25 posted on 12/01/2005 4:57:00 AM PST by johnny7 (“You have a corpse in a car, minus a head, in the garage. Take me to it.”)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Joe Wilson isn't intelligent enough to be Maxwell Smart.


26 posted on 12/01/2005 4:58:34 AM PST by MortMan (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

And yet he makes himself the spokesman for "peace". It is scary that he is not aware that he is an advocate for slavery.


27 posted on 12/01/2005 5:00:44 AM PST by saveliberty (Creator - A comedian whose audience is afraid to laugh. HL Mencken)
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To: saveliberty

Have you ever seen a Liberal who is happy about anything??


28 posted on 12/01/2005 5:03:47 AM PST by rs79bm
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To: rs79bm
the unveiling of his wife's once-covert spy status by syndicated columnist Robert Novak

No one has authoritatively proven that she was covert.

29 posted on 12/01/2005 5:06:27 AM PST by angkor
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To: rs79bm

Joe Wilsons "proof" is that he drank tea with some Niger officials for a few days and came back saying that "it probably didn't happen".
The officials probably told ole Joe that any sale of yellowcake to Iraq would violate UN sanctions.
That was good enough for ole Joe.
Could he have talked to the French, the French mining companies or anyone else involved in the actual production of yellowcake?
Our "allies", the French, are the only ones who know whether Saddam tried to acquire yellowcake from Niger.
And who said it was Niger?
The Brits said "Africa".


30 posted on 12/01/2005 5:07:09 AM PST by Bob from De
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To: rs79bm

LOL LOL LOL! Very good point!


31 posted on 12/01/2005 5:10:35 AM PST by saveliberty (Creator - A comedian whose audience is afraid to laugh. HL Mencken)
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To: rhombus

amb-ASS-ador......


32 posted on 12/01/2005 5:10:51 AM PST by Red Badger (There are no female angels..............)
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To: Red Badger

LOL! Reminds me of the old Odd Couple episode when Felix is in court doing the old Assume joke. ASS-U-ME


33 posted on 12/01/2005 5:15:01 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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To: rs79bm


34 posted on 12/01/2005 5:22:24 AM PST by devolve (<--- (--------(--do not check out my lame FR home page--)-------)
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To: rhombus

Yes, he's a class act. Why on earth would an American intelligence agency, when the Vice-President asked for information in a matter as serious as this, send an boy to do a man's job- or send in the clowns?


35 posted on 12/01/2005 5:58:05 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: rs79bm

I cannot figure out why I even read stories about this a**hat Joe Wilson. Every time I do I feel the need to take a shower, gargle, and puke at the same time. That he was ever an ambassador is amazing to me, and that he continues to spew forth his bile and his lies, makes me angry. He is the worst this country has to offer the world, and he continues to bring shame on all of us. I want to tell him to STFU, and to go back to the rathole he came from.


36 posted on 12/01/2005 5:59:15 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: rs79bm

Bob Novak very well may be those things. And Joe Wilson is still a liar and a blowhard.


37 posted on 12/01/2005 6:01:37 AM PST by RichInOC (Political koan: How do you out a CIA officer who's already been outed?)
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To: Bob from De

He probably owns stock in the French mining companies.


38 posted on 12/01/2005 6:02:56 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: rs79bm
Who is Joe Wilson's principal?

The 16 words seem to be "code" for British intel, and why would Joe Wilson care what British intel demonstrates?

Wilson went as a "free lance" intel hunter to Niger, wonder why?
39 posted on 12/01/2005 6:09:45 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: rs79bm

Former ambassador to Iraq?? That was a one day stint and he was the "acting" ambassador. The real ambassador was out of town.


40 posted on 12/01/2005 6:21:05 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: rs79bm
"What this is all about is the 16 words in the [2003] State of the Union Address"


Oh really???


Well, let's see now ...


prior to his interview in May 2003 with New York Times writer Nicholas Kristof (despite numerous opportunities), Joseph Wilson IV made none of the claims which for which he has now become notorious ~ no mention whatsoever about those infamous "16 words"


On Feb. 6, 2003  Wilson appeared on PBS’s Newshour along with Khidir Hamza, the former director of the Iraqi nuclear weapons development program and Amatzia Baram, a professor of Middle East history at the University of Haifa in Israel, and a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington. Here is portion of that exchange:


JIM LEHRER: You agree Ambassador Wilson? From his (Sadaam’s) point of view, what’s the point of being there if you don’t have your weapons of mass destruction?

JOSEPH WILSON: Well, again I think he also sees them as necessary to defending himself against what he believes will be an American assault on his government and his life. There is no incentive for him even to give up a little bit of them.

JIM LEHRER: But, all three of you agree if anyone is sitting around expecting at the last minute Saddam Hussein is going to have some kind of revelation and pull back and say, okay, here are my weapons of mass destruction, let’s have no war, forget it, right?

JOSEPH WILSON: Yeah. I think the chances are pretty good you’ll get something of semblance of cooperation, but the core stuff we’ll have to go find it.


No ... no mention of them here ...


On February 28, 2003 in another PBS interview (Bill Moyers Talks with Joseph C. Wilson, IV) this exchange occured:


MOYERS: President Bush's recent speech to the American Enterprise Institute, he said, let me quote it to you. "The danger posed by Saddam Hussein and his weapons cannot be ignored or wished away." You agree with that?

WILSON: I agree with that. Sure. I…

MOYERS: "The danger must be confronted." You agree with that? "We would hope that the Iraqi regime will meet the demands of the United Nations and disarm fully and peacefully. If it does not, we are prepared to disarm Iraq by force. Either way, this danger will be removed. The safety of the American people depends on ending this direct and growing threat." You agree with that?

WILSON: I agree with that. Sure.


Nope ... no mention there either!!


During an April 3, 2003 online chat facilitated by the Washington Post Wilson failed to mention the 16 words ~ indeed during this chat this interesting exchange occurred:

“Boston, Mass.: Mr. Wilson

Thank you for taking our questions. What happens if we do not find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

Joseph C. Wilson: Whether we find them or not is now immaterial. The liberation is now the rationale. If we don’t find them, discussion about them will cease and we will focus on the other reasons the administration has articulated. If we do find them, world public opinion will only change on the margins.” 


Again, no mention!!


In fact, in any number of additional appearances in the months between the President's Speech and his May 2003 NYT's interview, Wilson said not a single thing about "the 16 words"!


Additionally, at an Oct. 9, 2002, Middle East Council Policy Forum,  Wilson stated:


"My feeling on this…. is that we really do need to do something against the threat of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and I would concede to this administration the possibility that one of these days these weapons might move from the tight control of the Iraqi regime into the hands of organized terrorist groups who would, in fact, want to act against United States interests either abroad or in our homeland."


Wilson has no interest in the truth!

In fact, as the following excerpt from the Senate's Iraq Report clearly points out, Wilson is totally vested in lies!


Reference:


(you can click on the above to download a PDF file of this report)


41 posted on 12/01/2005 6:45:57 AM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: rs79bm

So, Mr. Wilson, if Novak is the one who published your wifes name that was supposedly not known prior, why did you go after the White House? Wouldn't you go after the person who actually made it widely known?

Class A moron.


42 posted on 12/01/2005 7:29:35 AM PST by jw777
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To: freema
Yes, he's a class act...

Have you noticed how many times Mr. Class Act uses the word "asshole" in a public forum?

Don't misunderstand me. I can let the words flow (but not in front of the kids, since THE word is my favorite word when no other word will do). I know when it is appropriate and when it is not. That kind of class is not something Joe can acquire. One either has it or not. He doesn't.

43 posted on 12/01/2005 8:11:00 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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To: beyond the sea

If Libby goes to trial, he MUST find a way to get Wilson on the stand. Wilson's lies must be brought into the light of day. Actually, they already have, during the congressional inquiry into pre-war intelligence, but the MSM has spiked the truth. So it's probably useless to think that the truth will be reported even if Wilson is exposed as a liar in open court.


44 posted on 12/01/2005 8:15:38 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: rhombus

"He also had harsh words for Novak, calling him an "asshole" and a "jerk."

Glad you didn't take it too hard, Joe.


45 posted on 12/01/2005 8:19:24 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: ScaniaBoy
Joe Wilson - Maxwell Smart
LOL!!

Where's the "Cone Of Silence" when you need it?

46 posted on 12/01/2005 8:20:32 AM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: Bob from De

If you believe Chiocci's article, Niger was a hotbed of nuclear activity: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1531449/posts.

I guess none of this was happening in the hotel where Joe set himself up.

I'm reminded of a Marx brothers movie where Chico and Harpo are told to tail a man. Chico reports back: "We went to the ball game - he didn't show up."


47 posted on 12/01/2005 8:27:30 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: All
Twenty Questions which the Media Ignores:

1. Who let Joe go to Niger without signing a confidentiality agreement?

2. Where are the receipts from this "pro bono" trip?

3. Why wasn't there a written report "signed by Joe" about his trip?

4. Who interviewed Joe after his trip and issued "the Tea Time report".

5. Was Valerie present at that interview?

6. Who at the CIA gave Joe permission to write his July 6th article?

7. Who "remembered" and "searched out" the memo that Powell got on July 7th while boarding the plane to Africa. (I believe the text itself is dated June 10, 2003.)

8. What reporters were on that flight?

9.Were the Dems afraid that Plamegate was about to blowup when Powell got that memo?

10. Who was Joe's friend who approached Novak on July 8th and why did this "stranger" even ask Novak about Joe??

11. Why did Joe call Novak on July 8th (finally reaching him on the 10th) instead of the CIA?

12. Why did Harlow (CIA) call Novak back the next day and say it wouldn't be prudent to use Valerie's name even though he had made no big deal of her status the day before? Did Novak consider it a threat? (I would).

13. Did the CIA pull the "perfect forgery" and "reclassify" Valerie after the July 7th memo got out?

14. Was Berger trying to get rid of references to Valerie? or add the S stamp to the memo when he first burgled on June 28 2003?

15. Berger and Wilson were BOTH dropped from the Kerry campaign within days of each other. Why Wilson? What's the connection?

16. Who took care of Joe's divorce from Jacqueline and marriage to Valerie Plame?...i.e., asset changes, insurance policy changes etc.. Was it Christopher Wolf?

17. Where are the Public Records of Joe's divorce and marriage to Valerie?

17. Who was at their wedding?

18. Some article noted that Valerie had to shift some assets when she was outed? Really?? Why??

19. DID COOPER DELIBERATELY CALL ROVE VIA THE WHITEHOUSE SWITCHBOARD" on July 11th which meant it would not be in Rove's log?

20. Did Cooper deliberately wait ONE DAY to call Libby, giving Rove enough time to note Cooper's call to upper staff members?

Summary: There are too many items that the media has "dropped in the basket".

Novak smelled a setup when Joe's friend approached him on the 8th and it was Joe himself that confirmed Novak's info with his "Leave my wife out of this". (Please note that there's no inkling of "Big Spy" in these words....It's a "mind your own business" statement.

Novak's still alive (thank God he avoided Marcy Park), has testified and was able to walk away. He has however, in a 2005 article said that what Harlow (CIA) has said in his testimony is not the truth.

In the end....My guess is that only a few knew that Valerie had been written up for BOTH Niger Trips. I have to believe that under the circumstances (no confidentiality form, "pro bono", no written report), Valerie ASSUMED she would not be written up and so did Joe.

I have to conclude that Valerie was a part of this simply because SHE, as Jane Bond, would have/should have stopped Joe from printing his July 6th article.....unless she wasn't really Jane Bond at all!! Gasp!!

The very statement that Joe used: "Leave my wife out of this" was the real secret. Valerie was an inside source who was likely feeding her hubby all kinds of "under the covers" information (people don't change). Neither of these two can keep a secret. They have no business being attached to the CIA in any way. Valerie's not a spy....she's a spud, aka a small potato!!

48 posted on 12/01/2005 8:31:10 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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"So, Mr. Wilson, if Novak is the one who published your wifes name that was supposedly not known prior, why did you go after the White House?"

Because, at the very least, he was trying to save his role as an asset to the Kerry campaign. Which worked for awhile.


49 posted on 12/01/2005 8:33:08 AM PST by popdonnelly
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Exactly. Politcal HACK to the enth degree. Nothing more.


50 posted on 12/01/2005 8:39:56 AM PST by jw777
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