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Tookie's tales
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 12/1/5 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 12/01/2005 6:48:08 AM PST by SmithL

LIES SO pervade the campaign waged to "save" convicted killer Stanley Tookie Williams that Williams and company don't even bother to cover their tracks when they say things they know aren't true.

So, as Williams' Dec. 13 execution date looms and supporters are pressing Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to grant him clemency, the Death Row inmate claimed in an interview Monday with MSNBC's fatuous Rita Cosby that he was convicted by an "all-white jury." That's not true, and Williams knows it.

In fact, Williams' own clemency lawyers have stipulated that the jury that convicted him in the 1979 murders of Albert Owens, Yen-I Yang, Tsai-Shai Yang and Yee Chen Lin during two armed robberies was not all-white. In the clemency petition, Williams' latest set of lawyers argued that prosecutor Robert Martin had kicked all African Americans off the jury. When prosecutors produced a death certificate that showed that juror William McLurkin was black, the lawyers noted in a reply that it doesn't matter if McLurkin was black or part-black, because he "looked Filipino."

Hello. That's not white. Williams' own Web site (www.tookie.com) features a fact sheet that, while asserting that no African Americans were on the jury, stipulates a Filipino and Latino served on the jury.

Why did Williams say something that he knew wasn't true? I just figure he knew he could get away with it.

In the MSNBC transcript of the Cosby interview, Williams, a co-founder of the Crips gang in South Central Los Angeles when a teenager, said, "I never ordered, nor have I initiated, any killings on my part, period."

The not-guilty-of-murder quote flies in the face of the clemency petition's "atonement" claim. To wit: Williams "has accepted responsibility, repented and done whatever he could, from where he is, to atone."

No: . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: black; burnttookies; cookingwithgas; deadmanwalking; deathpenalty; dontcrytookie; stanleywilliams; tookie; tookiecrumbles; tookiecutter; tookiewilliams; tooktookiegoodbye
Tookie Delenda Est!
1 posted on 12/01/2005 6:48:09 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

F you see Kay him.


2 posted on 12/01/2005 6:51:40 AM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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To: SmithL
MSNBC's fatuous Rita Cosby

She was fatuous, but she's slimmed down a lot.

3 posted on 12/01/2005 6:53:20 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: SmithL
So, as Williams' Dec. 13 execution date looms and supporters are pressing Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to grant him clemency...

Hasta la vista, Tookie...

4 posted on 12/01/2005 6:54:42 AM PST by Kenton (Muslims want to play by their own version of "girls' rules")
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To: SmithL

One way ticket to see his Uncle Devil.


5 posted on 12/01/2005 6:56:32 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: SmithL

That's the way the tookie crumbles!


6 posted on 12/01/2005 6:57:50 AM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: SmithL

Tookie is dead already.


7 posted on 12/01/2005 6:58:57 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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To: SmithL

You still have twelve days to repent, Tookie-don't lose your imortal soul trying to save your sorry ass.


8 posted on 12/01/2005 6:59:03 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: SmithL
took, took, tookie, don't cry...........

took, took, tookie, you gonna die.........

9 posted on 12/01/2005 7:01:45 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush and the SAPPS)
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To: SmithL

I have seen this movie before - "One flew over the Tookie nest".

Opening in a gas chamber near you on Dec 13th.


10 posted on 12/01/2005 7:03:22 AM PST by kentj
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To: kentj

Dead man talkin'


11 posted on 12/01/2005 7:05:31 AM PST by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: Kenton
(Apologies to Tootsie Goodbye)

Took, Took, Tookie goodbye,
Took, Took, Tookie don't cry.
The big grey goose that took you away from us,
no words can tell how glad it makes us
Yell at me, Tookie, and then
I'll do it over again.
Watch for the guard,
He's coming to your ward,
If you don't get a letter
You sure ain't gonna feel better
Took, Took, Tookie don't cry,
Took, Took, Tookie goodbye!

12 posted on 12/01/2005 7:05:47 AM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
MSNBC's flatuous Rita Cosby

Ah man, Rita cut the cheese again.

13 posted on 12/01/2005 7:07:29 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Kenton

Wrong. The Gubernator is gonna grant clemency. He ain't gonna PO his friends in Hollyweird.

Geez. I hope I'm wrong.


14 posted on 12/01/2005 7:08:17 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Malsua

Nothing like toasty tookies and cheese I always say.


15 posted on 12/01/2005 7:10:58 AM PST by Enterprise (The modern Democrat Party - a toxic stew of mental illness, cultism, and organized crime.)
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To: SmithL
"Crediting Williams for denouncing gangs is sort of like praising tobacco companies for their anti-smoking campaigns."

Good one!!


16 posted on 12/01/2005 7:11:27 AM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: SmithL

Tookie deserves whatever mercy he showed his victims


17 posted on 12/01/2005 7:12:23 AM PST by NRA1995 (Jesus is the reason for the season)
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To: SmithL

"Tookie" Williams? Was he a member of the same college fraternity as "Scooter" Libby?


18 posted on 12/01/2005 7:14:04 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: NRA1995

I agree - no clemency for this BAD MAN. But I think Arnie will give him another few months, don't you? He's pretty lib, his wife is very lib, he's got all those Hollywood Whiners contacting him. And now a State Tour. oh, hello. such a mess we have in California.


19 posted on 12/01/2005 7:16:35 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: SmithL

It's great that he's been able to make the most out of his time in Prison and it's fabulous that he can convert his faith to the lord but we are a land of laws that must temper justice over mercy. I'm sure that if he's really changed then he will be forgiven and his victims will too forgive him so enough talk and let the juice begin.


20 posted on 12/01/2005 7:21:00 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: SmithL

Just shoot him in the head
to fill his mind with lead
and leave him there for dead
Dam his eyes, dam his eves

Oscar Brand "Ballad of Sam Hall"


21 posted on 12/01/2005 7:24:29 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5% of the time!)
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To: SmithL
Fry him....and may G_d have no mercy on your worthless soul.
22 posted on 12/01/2005 7:28:30 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Funny how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather...)
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To: SmithL

Tick tock, Took.


23 posted on 12/01/2005 7:37:30 AM PST by IronJack
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To: SmithL

This is enlightening to those of us not too familiar with the case:
http://www.lacountyda.org/pdf/swilliams.pdf


24 posted on 12/01/2005 7:43:19 AM PST by 1066AD
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To: SmithL
I wish the celebs who are demanding Tookie be spared would have to stand in front of the families of the four people he murdered and tell them that the deaths of their loved ones do not matter because Tookie wrote kiddie books. I love the way they proclaim how this criminal spoke out against gangs.

Well maybe one of the folks he shutgunned would have cured cancer, ran for political office, produced a movie, wrote a kiddie book, or would have won the Nobel Peace Prize. But we'll never know because Tookie used a shotgun on them.

I hope Arnold staff reads this and mark me down as another who wants Tookie off death row and on a row of unmarked plots.

25 posted on 12/01/2005 7:46:45 AM PST by pikachu (That which does not kill me just makes me grumpy!)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Rita sucked on foxnews... glad shes gone... has anyone seen that new female middle eastern reporter.. talk about hawt!


26 posted on 12/01/2005 7:49:33 AM PST by Element187
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To: SmithL
I admit I have not followed this story too close until the past few weeks, but I do find it interesting that the this is the first time I have seen names of his victims;
Albert Owens, Yen-I Yang, Tsai-Shai Yang and Yee Chen Lin
That in it self is sad. the victims are forgotten, but the S.O.B that did the killing is in the news every damn day.
27 posted on 12/01/2005 7:53:10 AM PST by Long Distance Rider
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To: SmithL

Here's a link to the sentence of a 17 year old who killed a passing motorist with a shotgun, then firing at two women loading kids into a car: http://www.foxbaltimore.com/baltimore_md/


28 posted on 12/01/2005 7:53:17 AM PST by George - the Other
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To: Element187

yea, the chick on FNC who reports by video phone or something from Baghdad, she's beeeeeyooooottttful!!! what a gorgeous face, too bad thats all u see!

rita crosby's voice is so freakin annoying, that heavy smoker rasp that she croaks all the time


29 posted on 12/01/2005 8:11:17 AM PST by Narcoleptic
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To: SmithL
----I just wish the victims' families had more say in what his fate should be because Arnie is not capable of this kind of massive decision. He is an actor and not a very good one at that. I mean lets face it, he couldn't even pick out a decent looking wife.
30 posted on 12/01/2005 10:37:43 AM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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To: SmithL

....And is efforts to endear himself to children is equally repulsive.


31 posted on 12/01/2005 12:12:29 PM PST by tertiary01
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To: SmithL
If he really conned people into believing he's changed and just for the sake of argument - people bought it - and somehow Tookie got out despite all the odds and murdered again after obtaining his freedom, would all the Tookiephiles have the good grace to fall mercifully silent? Somehow I doubt it. Let's make no mistake here: granting a cold-blooded killer undeserving clemency would be tantamount to a confession we don't really believe in justice. If we're not going to ever do right by the four people he murdered - Owen and the Changs - when will we? That is the question, not whether Tookie gets the needle.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

32 posted on 12/01/2005 2:51:00 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

lookie, lookie, lookie, let's gas tookie.....tookie pest control.

make up your own melody.

light the candle already and smoke this sub-human.


33 posted on 12/01/2005 4:02:02 PM PST by Hilltop
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
She was fatuous, but she's slimmed down a lot.

She still sounds and seems like a Trannie.

34 posted on 12/01/2005 4:03:59 PM PST by montag813
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