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Pouting Pundits of Pessimism. Every bit of good economic news gives them reason for despair.
WSJ Opinion Journal ^ | Dec. 2, 2005 | BRIAN S. WESBURY

Posted on 12/01/2005 9:15:18 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: FairOpinion

I think that we have some of these Pouting Pundits of Pessimism, right here on FreeRepublic.


21 posted on 12/02/2005 9:10:24 AM PST by Eva
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Rush just read part of this article on air...

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

22 posted on 12/02/2005 9:41:51 AM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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Rush just read part of this article on air...


23 posted on 12/02/2005 9:42:20 AM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...

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24 posted on 12/02/2005 9:44:19 AM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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25 posted on 12/02/2005 9:44:49 AM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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26 posted on 12/02/2005 10:09:26 AM PST by Born Conservative ("Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion." -Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: wayoverontheright; FairOpinion

A huge segment of our population however, finds itself outside the private sphere. Those who depend on transfer payments through tax policy, those who work for the various state, local, and federal governments, farmers, trial lawyers, social workers, teachers, and yes, journalists are people for whom PROSPERITY from private sector GDP growth is SOMETHING WHICH HAPPENS TO EVERYBODY ELSE.

 

 

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDING - Full Report
(updated May 2005)
by Michael Hodges
- a chapter of the Grandfather Economic Reports

FEDERAL SPENDING GROWTH IN PERSPECTIVE

federal ratios-1929 vs CurrentToday's economy is Eight (8) TIMES more federal government-spending-dependent, compared to prior generations.

The left chart shows total federal spending ($2.3 trillion) as a share of the total economy (measured by national income) - growing from 3% of the economic pie prior to the New Deal (1929), to 26% of today's economy.

As stated before: had we reduced total government by an amount equivalent to the actual defense spending ratio reductions following World War II, today's federal spending ratio would have been about where it was just prior to WW II (13%) - - instead of the 26% ratio in the chart.

We chose, instead, to eat up all defense reductions PLUS much more via massive social spending - - much of same financed by debt.

Rather than return those savings to the private sector, where they could be properly and efficiently invested for the future of all generations, all was consumed (plus added debt) - - forever lost to future generations.

Who was it that said we are a nation of small government with a predominant free-private sector? Well, we used to be - - but, no longer. Does this impact the future economics and freedom of our younger generation. You bet.

Summarizing: the federal share of the economic pie increased nearly 1,000%.

3 pie charts of government shareTo help place this in an even bigger picture, the left-hand chart demonstrates how combined federal AND state & local government spending has consumed more and more of the total economic pie over time.

The total economic pie is broken down into 3 sectors: the Private Sector (blue), the Federal Government Sector (red), and State & Local Government Sector (yellow).

WHAT HAPPENS TO THE BLUE SLICE OF THE PIE BELOW - did it get bigger or smaller, from left to right?

In the first chart the federal portion was 3% of the economy, 13% in the 2nd chart and 26% in the 3rd chart.

This means: over this period of time, 22% of the economy was transferred to the federal government sector from the private sector - - because government spending increased eight times faster than growth of the entire economy.


27 posted on 12/02/2005 11:43:04 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: FairOpinion; Taxman; pigdog; Principled; EternalVigilance; rwrcpa1; phil_will1; kevkrom; ...
A Taxreform bump for you all.

If anyone would like to be added to this ping list let me know.

 

Just think what REAL tax reform would do to the economy.

Some have looked into the possibilities

 

Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee,
Rep. Bill Archer (R-TX)
August 12, 1996

 

Tax reduction results in return of assets to US.

U.S. Companies Bring Overseas Profits Home; May Create Thousands of Jobs

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Led by drug makers, American companies have started announcing their plans to use a temporary tax break and shift back to the United States billions of dollars in profits that have been stashed abroad.

An incentive to invest in the U.S. economy -- that's how lawmakers promoted the short-term relief that lets companies avoid as much as 85 percent of the taxes they might otherwise pay on earnings abroad.

 


 

John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright and replace them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.

H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer for additional information:

 


28 posted on 12/02/2005 11:50:29 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: ancient_geezer

Thank you. The charts really illuminate the topic here.


29 posted on 12/02/2005 12:00:26 PM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: ancient_geezer

For those who care to reminisce, here's Kudlow's article from December 2004. LOL

http://www.nationalreview.com/kudlow/kudlow200412300923.asp


30 posted on 12/02/2005 12:05:18 PM PST by groanup
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To: ancient_geezer

Nice graphs. Especially the pie charts. They highlight the parasitical elites in government devouring the host economy.


31 posted on 12/02/2005 12:22:18 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: RipSawyer

"I don't know about Michigan but the Southeast is no bed of roses! I am living on far less income than I had twenty years ago and the worst part is I have a lot of company in my misery. I talk to a lot of different people on my job and it is quite common now to meet men in their forties and fifties who say they would be happy if they could earn the same pay they had twenty years ago. I DON'T blame George Bush for everything but I simply do not believe things are anywhere near as rosy as many on this forum would have us believe. I too go by what I can see, government statistics and news releases are not accepted at the Piggly Wiggly in lieu of cash, they want money for their groceries."

Very good post. Paul Craig Roberts, former Treasury Dept official under Reagan, wrote an op-ed piece which appeared a couple of months ago. The administration had been crowing about a jobs report - I think it was July. He analyzed the non-government jobs which were created and they were almost all in the services sector - waiters, bartenders, etc. There were few, if any, professional jobs included. Those jobs are going overseas. The subtitle of his article was "Good news - you soon won't need an expensive college education to work in the US".

I still recall the Bush (I) campaign against a then unknown named Bill Clinton in 1992. Every time a Bush spokesperson was on TV quoting some obscure economic statistic, I got ill. They kept trying to convince the US people that the economy was going great. That was a time of massive corporate layoffs and most people at least knew someone who was out of a job. The approach of the Bush campaign just fed the perception of Republicans as out of touch with average Americans that the Democrats were only too happy to exploit.

Since that time, I have always felt that Republicans would be better off acknowledging economic concerns and explaining why their policies are more effective in addressing those concerns than they would be in projecting denial.


32 posted on 12/02/2005 1:21:02 PM PST by phil_will1 (My posts are in no way limited or restricted by previously expressed SQL opinions)
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To: ancient_geezer

... and it's time to transfer some of that spending fropm the federal government sector back into the private sector by means of the FairTax.

That way more of us will be able to have more effect on what the government does and does not spend as well as what we are able to invest to help boost the country's economy.

Good post, ol' guy!!!


33 posted on 12/02/2005 5:50:15 PM PST by pigdog
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To: FairOpinion
The media keeps harping on the bad news about both the economy and Iraq, even though in reality there is a lot of good news in both, but if they admitted the good news, they would have to give credit to President Bush.

Look on the bright side. At least the President's commission on Tax reform tinkering with an oppressive 60,000+ page tax code will be a big boost to the economy.
34 posted on 12/02/2005 9:08:14 PM PST by Man50D
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To: ancient_geezer

We can start the spending cuts by abolishing the IRS.


35 posted on 12/02/2005 9:10:23 PM PST by Man50D
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To: CommandoFrank
Cheney and GW are finally talking about the war

You and I live in 2 different realities.

36 posted on 12/02/2005 9:20:34 PM PST by Once-Ler (The rat 06 election platform will be a promise to impeach the President if they win.)
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To: Once-Ler
Economic data is freely available at a dozen government web sites, and Dubya and the GOP have been saying the economy is good every chance they get. Since the MSM spoon feeds you their lies you assume it's the GOPs fault. That's dumb.

What do expect the party to do? Take over the tv and newspapers? Run tv ads saying "Hey, the economy is pretty good!" Do you think that is a wise use of campaign money a year before the elections?

Good job!! I get sick of these Bush and Republican bashers who want to sit on their butts and bash the administration for everything under the sun.

37 posted on 12/02/2005 9:22:26 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Howlin
"What's the purpose of all the badmouthing?"

I think it has something to do with the "left".

38 posted on 12/02/2005 9:25:24 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Good job!!

Thanx. I think some people forget politicians are human. They ascribe god-like powers to the President and then feel disillusioned when he fails to meet their expected level of perfection. Congresses spending is Dubya's fault. High gas prices is Dubya's fault. A screwed up intelligence department is Dubya's fault. The media is Dubya's fault.

I would not want a President who had the power to make those people happy. Fortunately the Founders and Father of our country didn't want to replace one King with another and they built safeguards to prevent one man controlling everything.

The problem is rarely the politicians, it is the people. Politicians do what they think will get them re-elected. If we could convince the people to vote out politicians who spend, a lot of politicians would become thrifty. If we could convince people to drill in Alaska we would pass legislation.

Dubya doesn't do everything right in my book, but in looking at previous Presidents, he is a better President than most. Looking at the men Dubya defeated in 00 and 04 I have no problems proclaiming my pride in voting for him twice.

It was only 10 years ago that the impeached rapist-in-chief was getting a hummer from Monica during a conference call with Arafat, while ignoring terrorism, banning guns, passing new taxes, and planning universal health care.

39 posted on 12/02/2005 10:24:19 PM PST by Once-Ler (The rat 06 election platform will be a promise to impeach the President if they win.)
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To: Once-Ler
The last time the rats held any real power was in 1992 after they cashed in on a mild recession.

You ain't kidding. They echoed the Clinton "worst economy since the Depression" line and kept hammering away. It was a major reason Bush 1 was defeated. I remember the DAY AFTER the 92 election the first reports came out in the press that the recession had ended in MAY. The economy was primed to begin it's growth in the rest of the 90's although it didn't REALLY take off till after the 94 midterms when Wall Street realized the Toon didn't have the Congress anymore and couldn't screw things up.
40 posted on 12/02/2005 10:32:26 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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