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Oslo Transit For KGB Active Measures In Middle East
Russian and German Archives | Des. 4, 2005 | I. Lazarenko

Posted on 12/04/2005 7:14:49 AM PST by Lazarenko

Oslo, Norway, was not only the capitol for Norwegians, but hosted also hard core Russian-fabricated "active measures", international political manipulation from the Russian secret police, KGB. With key Norwegian politicians as tools: Result of comprehensive archive research mixed with defectors interviews and statements, makes following question relevant: Russian KGB had way back to the 50'ies and to 1991 ("Arctic group") a sucessful, ongoing campaign of active measures (Service A) from Oslo to Great Britain, West Germany, the US and the UN. 50 years of dirty, political tricks that of course should be brought to the limelite.

Seriosly speaking/writing - there is so much hard data on a KGB code names from DOR-dossiers etc. on very sentral (and still going strong) politicians in Norway that it briefly looks like a political tragedy, political "Titanic". After some closeups - it really looks even worse so. There seem to be two main field in this: Security/Defense/NATO issues and Middle East. The latter looks to be related to early contacts from Oslo into the Middel East and the United Nation as well, under the ever lasting (KGB) word - "pease".

The most famous spy ever taken in Norway, mr. Arne Treholt, an executive in the Norwegian Foreign ministeries that was taken down by American FBI, British and Norwegian counter intelligence in 1984, had KGB contacts for years that paid him well and was specialized on the PLO and Middle East affaires from KGB schools and institutes in Moscow. The operative "Back channel" from Oslo to the PLO in Beyrouth was effective from 1976, into a Palestinian KGB agent (for years) located in a under cover Western Beyrouth apartment. Regular secret meets came early in 1977, and continued over the establishment of a new research institute - FAFO - in the main Norwegian labour union, LO, in 1982. Formally, at the initiative of Terje Rod Larsen, now depty under the secretary general of the UN (Mid East/Lebanese-Syrian affaires).

I need contact to people and sources out there that may have further information and "channels" to complete the story as mentioned above.

Feel free to send e-mail to: lazarenko@loftmail.com

Sincerely,

I. Lazarenko


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: activemeasures; arafat; kgb; oslo; plo

1 posted on 12/04/2005 7:14:51 AM PST by Lazarenko
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To: Charles Henrickson; Eurotwit; anonymoussierra; Grzegorz 246; lizol; Lukasz

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2 posted on 12/04/2005 7:18:12 AM PST by Wiz
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To: Lazarenko; Calpernia; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT

Have you read this one?

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Beilin-Husseini Dialogue: Conversations with History; Institute of International Studies, UC Berkeley



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Page 3 of 5

Initiation of the Bilateral Peace Process
Both of you have described the processes by which your nationalist commitment, in essence, evolved. But at the point before the Oslo accords were reached, a kind of mutual intellectual dynamic began. Could you tell us a little about how, as a political process, intellectuals and policy makers from the Israeli side began communicating with Palestinians on the other side?

[Beilin]

The process is a long one and it is not a very organized process. It happened that people would say to me, "Why don't you meet with the Palestinian doctor in the bar?" And I would meet with him in a restaurant in East Jerusalem, or things like that. It was, in many cases, by accident. For me there was never any kind of a barrier or an impediment to meet with the Palestinians. And I did it since the early eighties, if not even before that, through some of my colleagues had better contacts than myself in East Jerusalem and in the West Bank, mainly Dr. Yair Hirschfeld, who is a very close friend and colleague of mine and who very involved with the Palestinians.

That was the beginning and then it was institutionalized much more. Both of us (Faisel Al Husseini and I) had many meetings and we also had meetings with Mr. Shimon Peres when he was in opposition and when he was in power. And we developed a kind of very interesting and important dialog about concrete measures, things which happened in Jerusalem and things like that. And of course it is very different when you're doing it from a position of opposition and when you're doing it, as I did it, as a Secretary of the Cabinet, and than as a Director-General of the Foreign Ministry and Deputy Minister of Finance and Foreign Affairs.

But the story of Oslo itself was intended to be the channel between the two of us, that was the original idea. Mr. Terje Rod Larsen, a Norwegian, came to us with the idea of a back channel -- he came to both of us, he came to Faisal Husseini and he talked to me about it. He asked me separately whether I would like to have such a channel with Faisal Husseini when we come back to power, because it was several months before the elections and the atmosphere there was conducive to our victory. I said that I had known Mr. Faisal Husseini for many years -- that was in '92 and I had known him then for a dozen-odd years -- but that maybe it would be worthwhile to have a kind of institutionalized channel once we are in power. We met again, the three of us: Terje Rod Larsen, Faisal Husseini, and myself in East Jerusalem on the eve of the elections of '92 and we agreed to continue it later.

Then I became the Deputy Foreign Minister and of course it was a little bit different than being just a member of the opposition. I intended to tell my minister, Mr. Peres, that I was offered a kind of a back channel with Mr. Husseini in Norway. And here it was a very, very strange story, because when I came to him (Mr. Peres) with this request of confirming such a channel, he was the one who began the discussion. He said to me, "You know that I wanted to meet with Faisal Husseini, but the Prime Minister, Mr. Rabin, said that it is too early now, we just won the elections. We are going to have a channel in Washington; you should not meet with him right now." Now that was a kind of a thunderstorm, first of all because there were meetings between Mr. Peres and Mr. Husseini. Many informal meetings. [But] when we come to power, we cannot talk to Faisal Husseini? But he told me that, and the truth was that he was astonished. And the truth was also that Rabin, in the beginning, wanted to continue everything as it was under Shamir, to legitimize the process. He wanted to intensify, to accelerate it, but not to change the format of the negotiations. And that is why I think he did not want Mr. Peres to meet with Mr. Husseini in Jerusalem.

Now, when Mr. Peres told me that, I could not come to him and say, "I want to meet with Mr. Husseini in Norway." So something happened. I could not even tell Mr. Husseini what happened. He was quite astonished because he knows me, I never let him down, and somehow I had disappeared. And I couldn't tell that to the Norwegians either because it was very embarrassing. So eventually it was delayed and on toward the end of the year we told the Norwegians that if they wanted to have a back channel it could not be with me but with Professor Hirschfeld and Professor Ron Pundak, a colleague.

Then Hanan Ashrawi, who was also one of the group with which we had met in previous years, told Mr. Hirschfeld that if he wants to have an interlocutor who is a PLO person (and it was Mr. Husseini who all the years urged us to talk directly to the PLO, when the law changed and it was possible to talk to the PLO), she suggested to talk to somebody by the name of Abu Allah. We had not heard about him, but since that was her recommendation he went to London. And in London he met with Abu Allah for the first time and then he came to me. I was then in London too. And he told me that he has a meeting. So I suggested to them to have it in Norway and to establish the Oslo process there without me, and then it happened also that it was also without Husseini. And the truth is that the whole story is a result of the fact that for whatever reason, it was the late Mr. Rabin who prevented Mr. Peres from [meeting with] Mr. Husseini after the victory in the elections.

So what you're both describing is that a sensibility, a feeling, an intellectual desire to cross the boundaries that were dividing your two peoples, was percolating in the civil societies of both sides? And that, in a way, the government followed and then came on board?

[Husseini]

I can say that there were people inside the Palestinian leadership who are for such contacts and for our pushing the peace process forward, as well as people out of the leadership. But it was not easy for both sides. There was this initiative of Washington, which was more under effect of the media than the effect of politics. And we were discussing these matters also between us, the Palestinians, even though it was forbidden officially to meet their leadership, but I was making that from time to time. And I remember when this subject had been broached, to have a new channel. I found that this was very important. I know from the history also that in Algeria, in Vietnam, in other places, secret negotiations were bringing an agreement. So it was clear for us that we were in need of people to work [on the peace process] far from the media, far from the daily interests of the people.

So I supported the idea. And when Mr. Hirschfeld came to me and asked me, "Who is Abu Allah? Do you know this person Abu Allah? Is he good?" I said, "Yes, he is good, call him." And they went on and then I didn't hear anything about it until we had the Oslo agreement.

So I believe that if you asked me when the Palestinian people, when we as intellectuals, as leaders, started to think about peace, maybe even the Palestinians themselves became ready for such a matter, I can say, between the period of 1982 until the Intifada. In this period, the Palestinian people started to feel proud of themselves. This fight in Lebanon, our ability to stand in front of the Israeli Army for ninety days, or eighty days, it was, for the Palestinians, something to be very proud of because someone who is defeated cannot go on negotiating if he is also defeated on the inside. Now the Palestinians started to feel that we have the ability to stand in front of the Israelis. This matter was strengthened by the Intifada and by proving for all the world that the Palestinian people can stand and can challenge the Israeli army, not only in field as army against army, but also as a people against an army. This made it easier for us to start having direct negotiations with the Israelis, searching for a solution. And this actually started before Madrid and before Oslo. But Madrid was the framework for these feelings, and Oslo was a result of Madrid. Without Madrid we would not have been able to reach Oslo.

Next page: Significance of the Oslo Process

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3 posted on 12/04/2005 8:10:06 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (THE ENEMY IS WITHIN!!Google search: DSA members in Congress (finds elected communists.))
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To: Wiz

O-yes, Fasal Husseini was kind of Yassir Arafat contact also, but far closer, though, was Faithi Arafat in the "Oslo back channel", - Yassir Arafats brother. He is really a "hot shot" in KGB files, ranking high as a KGB agent; also named by the (higest ranking ever -)KGB defector, mr. Gordievsky. Iqual was mr. Wadi Haddad in the PLO operational unite, filed with code name "Nationalist" in KGB files. Mentioned in correspondence between party secretary Leonid Brechjnev and KGB chief, Juri Andropov from May 1970.

I. Lazarenko


4 posted on 12/04/2005 8:42:36 AM PST by Lazarenko
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To: Lazarenko
I had read of the KGB connection to Yassir Arafat, that he was trained there, when young.

I am learning a little at a time.

My research is for the the connection to the KGB/Russia and the terrorist muslims that we are fighting today.

Have you been writing for publication?

Thank you for the additional information.
5 posted on 12/04/2005 9:19:22 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (THE ENEMY IS WITHIN!!Google search: DSA members in Congress (finds elected communists.))
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Yes, there are publications, somewhat - pretty close to this theme. On the other hand, as you may imagine, its sensitive stuff and powerful people involved in the political traffic as outlined so far. Persons that do not want any limelight..
Anyway, political cocktails of KGB, PLO and known political figures with networks and hard influence is quite a explosive material to handle, even served from "Oslo files". We know, all that has been in this business: Scientific approaches into Russia, Middle East isn't that easy, dealing with such stuff. Its question of patient, and step-by-step efforts.

It may be fruitful for your further efforts (and genuine interests as well) to contact me. These kind of connections are just what we estimate and - enjoy. So, welcome to the "union"..

There is material also very relevant for those on real-time studies/research in terrorism. (Models of cell constructions etc.)

ILazar
6 posted on 12/04/2005 11:14:33 AM PST by Lazarenko
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To: Lazarenko

Check your Free Republic mail, it is at the top and bottom of your thread.

Do you check Google Groups for your searches?

Their files go back to about 1990 now and often an old article or conversation will turn up there, when you can't find what you want with the regular searches.

This was interesting, take a look at the Halldor2 link, about the middle of the page. There is a lot of reading there, but it is too large for my computer, I did get a peek into the December 2005 archives, before my computer froze on me.......

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=Oslo%20Transit%20For%20KGB%20Active%20Measures%20In%20Middle%20East


7 posted on 12/04/2005 11:47:02 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (THE ENEMY IS WITHIN!!Google search: DSA members in Congress (finds elected communists.))
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Granny this is the right track, but it is world wide. Oslo is the tip of the iceburg.


8 posted on 12/04/2005 1:36:37 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Merry Christmas to ALL!)
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To: struwwelpeter; nw_arizona_granny

Hey Peter!

You around?


9 posted on 12/04/2005 9:46:04 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Lazarenko; nw_arizona_granny
Welcome to FR! We sometimes touch on this subject over on this thread ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513784/posts?q=1&&page=3801

How Russia's mafia is taking over Israel's underworld


The Israeli authorities grant citizenship to anyone who can prove Jewish ancestry

The BBC's Kevin Connolly investigates the Russian mafia's covert invasion of Israeli society.
There are alarming signs that the Russian mafia has taken over the Israeli underworld and is using the country to launder its vast profits.

A wave of mass immigration from the former Soviet Union has brought 750,000 newcomers to the Jewish state in the last decade.

Amid the innocent exodus were Russian gangsters, many of whom are believed to have produced bogus proof of Jewish ancestry to enter the country.

Police in Israel have been keeping around 30 organised key crime suspects under surveillance.

Billions invested in Israel

Former police chief Asaf Hefetz says £2.5bn ($4bn) of organised crime money from the former Soviet Union has been invested in Israeli real estate, businesses and banks in the past seven years.

Gregory Lerner, who was arrested in 1997 for defrauding four Russian banks of £70m ($106m), was reputedly sent to Israel to head up one of the money laundering operations.


Gregory Lerner is under police guard in Israel

Lerner, 47, will serve six years in jail after reaching a plea bargain with Israeli prosecutors.

Detectives claim two Russian mafia groups are plotting to "spring" him from an Israeli jail.


Increasing Russian activity

Commander Meir Gilboa, chief of the Israeli Serious Crime Unit, has noticed the increasing activity of Russian gangsters.

He says: "They come here because in Israel it's easy to carry out their illegal activities.

"There is no law against money laundering or belonging to an illegal organisation.

"It's easy for Jews to receive Israeli citizenship. If they are not Jews they are smart enough to forge documents in order to become citizens. They feel much safer here than in Russia."


Prostitutes from Eastern Europe often end up in Israel

Threat to Israeli society

Commander Gilboa says Russian criminal organisations pose a threat to Israeli society: "They have the means at their disposal to corrupt government and economic systems.

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One highly profitable area in which they are thriving is prostitution.

Dozens of brothels and peepshows have sprung up in Tel Aviv and Haifa in the last few years.

Modern form of slavery

Many are controlled by Russian mobsters who recruit Eastern European women who then become trapped and subservient.

Rita Rasnic, of the Israeli Women's Aid Centre, describes it as "modern day white slavery".


The Russian mafia is making a fortune in Israel

Women are often traded between gangsters for £6,000 ($10,000) to £9,000 ($15,000) and routinely have their passports taken away by their pimps.

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"Nobody cares. I don't think it's life for them," as the prostitutes have to do whatever their bosses want. The woman are "not free to do anything."


The rise and rise of the Russian mafia
So who are the Russian mafia?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_report/1998/03/98/russian_mafia/69521.stm
10 posted on 12/04/2005 11:00:21 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Merry Christmas to ALL!)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Interesting report on the mafia and Israel.

There was a report of several thousand Russian Emigrants that came here, some were scientists and are still in the pay of Russia to send the information, on their projects.

Read it a year or more ago......don't know where.


11 posted on 12/05/2005 2:23:45 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (THE ENEMY IS WITHIN!!Google search: DSA members in Congress (finds elected communists.))
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To: Lazarenko; dighton; Senator Bedfellow

Welcome to FR.

I hope you get more information.


12 posted on 12/05/2005 2:46:32 AM PST by aculeus
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Terje Rod Larsen had Faithi Arafat, not Husseini as his key contact to the PLO. And that contact turned on in the 70ies, when Rod Larsen worked in a propganda organization for the PLO in Norway. In KGB files, Faithi Arafat is listte as a high ranking KGB agent for years.

ILaz


13 posted on 12/09/2005 12:57:34 PM PST by Lazarenko
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