To: CarolinaGuitarman
A virgin birth here and there is outside of scientific explanation.Not if science considers the current universe to be the result of countless potential combinations of matter forming by way of unguided, unintelligent, forces. It is the naturalistic viewpoint of all viewpoints that condones virtually any potential combination of matter, or random occurence, and so a virgin birth, water into wine, etc. are viable possibilities scientifically speaking. They must be, because matter is capable of behaving any way imaginable. It operates sans design and sans intelligence. Hence we may very well see a virgin birth simply by virtue of mutation and natural selection. Again, with virutally any scenario possible (since probabilities are scientifically non-explanatory), a virgin birth is a simple matter. Sure, it doesn't happen very often, and no one has witnessed it personally of late, but they didn't see the first life forms either.
To: Fester Chugabrew
"Not if science considers the current universe to be the result of countless potential combinations of matter forming by way of unguided, unintelligent, forces."
How does this view make the idea of Virgin Births any more subject to scientific examination?
"It is the naturalistic viewpoint of all viewpoints that condones virtually any potential combination of matter, or random occurence, and so a virgin birth, water into wine, etc. are viable possibilities scientifically speaking."
No, methodological naturalism does not allow any potential combination of matter. It is understood that the universe works by regular, law-like processes. Virgin births, water into wine, are all outside of scientific examination. They cannot be tested in any way.
"They must be, because matter is capable of behaving any way imaginable."
Nope, completely wrong.
"Hence we may very well see a virgin birth simply by virtue of mutation and natural selection"
Now your just making things up to make us laugh. lol
Your ideas just keep getting nuttier and nuttier.
373 posted on
12/05/2005 4:25:42 PM PST by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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