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Michael Schiavo joins the fray
Salon ^ | December 7th, 2005 | Michael Scherer

Posted on 12/07/2005 5:02:27 PM PST by eartotheground

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To: msnimje
If Michael Schiavo had not "used his wife as a football" in the first place none of this would have happened.

That honor actually belongs to the Schindlers.

21 posted on 12/07/2005 5:52:46 PM PST by ContraryMary
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To: William Creel

I think Michael was responsible for putting her into that state and getting rid of the evidence was behind his actions. However, my thoughts are nothing but conjecture.

As a separate issue, though, the autopsy showed there was no one at home and had Terri supporters got their way, this empty house would still be on life support. The supporters were wrong.


22 posted on 12/07/2005 5:53:40 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: GOP_1900AD
"You hate FR, because, it is dominated by "Bible thumpers."

Get it right. I said I was embarrassed by the Terri threads because the Terri-bots wouldn't know a fact if it bit them in the a$$.

23 posted on 12/07/2005 5:55:44 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: ContraryMary

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!


24 posted on 12/07/2005 5:57:06 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: gcruse
I have not argued that. Neither did he, as I recall. His original argument was that he was carrying out his wife's wishes.

If he was carrying out his wife's wishes, that is one thing, and it would not be forcible starvation in that case, either. Kilgore went against "forcible starvation of individuals." From a technical standpoint, at least to me, that would seem to be outside his whole affair.

Did Kilgore even reference the Schiavo mess in his speech where he allegedly stood against forced starvation? If he did, that is one thing, but if he did not, then it looks to me as if the goalposts have been shifted.
25 posted on 12/07/2005 5:57:34 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Merry Christmas!")
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To: eartotheground
Hey Michael , remember her? America hates you for what you did.
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26 posted on 12/07/2005 6:04:06 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: gcruse

A person whose "brain [is] gone cannot breathe for herself and cannot have a naturally beating heart.

I would have been willing to accept the autopsy results if the coroner in question possessed some semblance of impartiality, but the one who performed the autopsy happened to be a friend and ally of Michael Schiavo. Whatever one thinks of Schiavo and his motives, a coroner who is personally involved with one side of the debate cannot be called neutral.


27 posted on 12/07/2005 6:08:51 PM PST by Im4LifeandLiberty
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To: eartotheground

Everyone should get on his mailing list and send back an empty business reply envelope......

Same thing I do to most democrats. They do it to us.


28 posted on 12/07/2005 6:10:05 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("What does a guy have to do to get fired around here?" - Darryl Rogers, former Lions Coach)
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To: robertpaulsen

You're right. Michael Schiavo was not a bigamist, he was an adulterer. Since I *do* care about facts, I acknowledged the fact that Michael Schiavo remained legally married to Terri and continued to assert his decision-making rights as her husband while openly cohabitating with another woman and their two children.


29 posted on 12/07/2005 6:11:53 PM PST by Im4LifeandLiberty
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To: William Creel
Not an "arse"--the man is S-A-T-A-N-I-C...to the bone and the heart.

BTW, Robert Wexler is my Representative; I'm gonna have to go after him next year as well

Any other FLorida FReepers wanna help pull him out??

30 posted on 12/07/2005 6:12:23 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: robertpaulsen
Then again, that wasn't what his wife wanted, was it? It was what YOU wanted for her. Why do you think it is any of your business to insert your will over hers? Who made you God?

Who made michael schiavo God? He could have walked away and not put the Schidlers through so much pain, but it seems he is the vengeful kind, and wanted to stick the knife through the Schindlers heart and twist it.

Who's a bigamist? Michael? Really? Care to support that with some kind of fact? (Fact? Facts? A Terri-bot spouting facts? Never!)

Uh michael schiavo having children to another woman while still being legally married to Terri Schindler Schiavo is a bigamist.

31 posted on 12/07/2005 6:14:31 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
Actually, that makes him an adulterer, not a bigamist. He would have tried to legally marry her and pass it off to be a bigamist.

When that gets pointed out, someone else will point out that adultery is not a crime. If you're lucky, we'll get someone to come here and compare those of us who have a problem with adultery to the Taliban and accuse us of wanting to stone adulterers to death. They're already playing the "bot" angle, I see, so the Taliban bit is not far behind.
32 posted on 12/07/2005 6:27:28 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Merry Christmas!")
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To: eartotheground

Its always about the money isn't it Michael ?

May you suffer a fate 10x worse than what you inflicted on Terri.


33 posted on 12/07/2005 6:28:07 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: AZ_Cowboy; Dane

Should Read: He would have had to have tried to legally marry her and pass it off to be a bigamist.


34 posted on 12/07/2005 6:28:14 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Merry Christmas!")
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To: ContraryMary
That honor actually belongs to the Schindlers.

Amen to that! The Schindlers and anyone else that thought they could ride her for publicity and use her up did. Michael has every right to be pissed off about how all the holy rollers judged him and defamed him.

35 posted on 12/07/2005 6:30:52 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Christmas is annoying, Happy Festivus)
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To: ContraryMary

Her parents physically abused her?


36 posted on 12/07/2005 6:39:26 PM PST by msnimje (Everyday there is a new example of the Democrats "Culture of Dementia")
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To: robertpaulsen

"Used her as football" as in physically abused her.


37 posted on 12/07/2005 6:45:22 PM PST by msnimje (Everyday there is a new example of the Democrats "Culture of Dementia")
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To: gcruse
Didn't the autopsy say her brain was gone? She was past being a person, so it's hard to say someone was starved to death.

Your brain would be in pretty bad shape after two weeks without water. It is impossible to tell from autopsy what the real functional state of Terri's brain was while she was still receiving food and water.

There is much about the brain that is poorly understood. Although static radiographic examination (or post-mortem examination) of a person's brain can often suggest things about a person's clinical condition, it can't really prove much. There are people walking around today (literally) who would likely be diagnosed as "brain dead" by someone examining a CT scan. I saw on TV a person whose head was blown open by a .357 and whose brain was largely splattered. The damage was so severe that there was no way the person should have been able to walk or talk or do any such thing. And yet, on television, the person was definitely functional.

Some of Terri's supporters had suggested that they believed her to be concious, but severely motor-impaired. The autopsy revealed that the most-severely damaged parts of Terri's brain were in the motor-control area; the parts responsible for awareness were less-severely damaged.

One question some freepers have raised, BTW: why would the parts of Terri's brain supplied by the carotid artery show the most severe damage, while Terri's other organs showed no signs of having suffered hypoxia? Could that part of the brain have been deprived of blood flow even while Terri's heart was beating?

38 posted on 12/07/2005 7:03:28 PM PST by supercat (Sony delinda est.)
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To: Dane
Yeah by being a bigamist, he was carrying out her wishes.(eyes rolling) He could have sided with life, let Terri stay with her loving family, and walked away, but he was determined to see her die.

I don't think the guy was a bigamist was he?, he wasn't married to his mistress at the time, he just made a kid out-of-wedlock with her while being married to Teri. Really slimy and sleazy.

39 posted on 12/08/2005 12:56:36 AM PST by gop_gene
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To: robertpaulsen
"He attempted to carry out her wishes. How does that qualify as "using her as a football"?

I might have a possible answer. Teri was used as a football when she was drop kicked down those stairs on that fateful night, February 25, 1990.

40 posted on 12/08/2005 1:20:28 AM PST by jonrick46
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