That's for sure. I got hate messages just reading those statistics.
Posted on 12/07/2005 10:53:13 PM PST by texasguitarslim
MSNBC.com Most dangerous city? Ranking says Camden N.J. city's mayor blasts report; "We're doing so many nice things now"
The Associated Press Updated: 9:24 a.m. ET Nov. 21, 2005
CAMDEN, N.J. - For the second year in a row, this destitute city has been named the nation's most dangerous, according to a company's annual ranking based on crime statistics.
Last year, the distinction seemed to hurt city boosters' feelings more than it harmed revitalization efforts. This time, city leaders are offended by the ranking, calling it unfair.
"We're doing so many nice things now. It's unfortunate that somebody always wants to bad-mouth Camden," Mayor Gwendolyn Faison said.
The city took the top spot last year from Detroit, which remained No. 2 in the most dangerous city rankings, to be released Monday....
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I would not doubt that and like most folks who can they live North, West and East.
I've actually thought about the whole crime/drugs/out of wedlock births -- fall of civilization thing -- a lot. The only conclusion I've come to is very "squishy" and unquantifiable. That is, if a guy believes that tomorrow is gonna be even marginally better than today, then he's less likely to engage in criminal activity than a guy who believes that tomorrow is gonna be the same old, same old or a little worse.
Happy to see, btw, that my dad's hometown of Newark in no longer in the top 10. I think the reason is that 1. Alot of thugs were killed in the crack wars 2. Those displaced by the demolition of the projects went to the Oranges or, more likely, moved down South. and 3. The fastest growing places in Newark population-wise are the Ironbound and North Newark. The Brazilians and Ecuadorians moving there are too busy working to become an "underclass."
I first hear that term bent-nose from some friends of made guys out at Long Beach LI....a long time ago.
Everytime I see the Sopranos I think about that.
Want to hear something that will blow your socks off -- they built a marina in Port Elizabeth. There are pleasure boats docked in the arthur kill.
That 29.9% are largely descendents of the Puerto Ricans who came up in the 1940s and 1950s.
Camden is directly across the river from Philly - - they may as well be twin cities like Minneapolis-St. Paul. I would bet there's a significant backwash in both directions.
I believe the cities with the highest crime rates in New Jersey are Camden, Bridgeton, Irvington, East Orange, Orange, Plainfield, Paterson, and Newark.
All those cities got hit hard by de-industrialization.
As hard as it is for some folks to believe today, Irvington was considered a "step up" from Ironbound when my dad's aunts and uncles moved there in the 1950s/early 60s. You look at photos of East Orange and Irvington in the 1950s and it looks like Montclair today, thriving downtowns, nice houses, restaurants, etc.
Montclair is now a bedroom community to NYC.
Guys from the Oranges used to commute to Ford and GM and ESSO (sic) for blue collar jobs. Then drink beer after work at Big Stash's on Wood Avenue in Linden :)
I won't disagree with you, but it does point to what I have said. Many people in poverty are trained today to think it will never be better or that they cannot escape it. They rely on welfare for basics and think that drugs and such are their only hope.
Their real hope to escape both poverty and high crime rates is for them to learn and see that the only real hope is to work hard and pull themselves out of it, like many of us have had to do.
The key word in what you said is "hope." I've seen lack of hope in both blacks and whites. But worse, I've seen it in people far too young to lack it. I've always deplored the traditional elements of racism, but recently I've come to hate the relatively new acceptance of the term "white trash" and all it carries with it.
Also, the best idea yet is so-called "Workfare," but nobody seems particularly enthusiastic about it.
No way. Liberals have assured us that black violence is caused by whitey and that liberalism is the solution to every single, little thing.
That's for sure. I got hate messages just reading those statistics.
lol
There are a few FR types around that get their knickers in a wad anytime someone makes the most vague suggestion that perhaps, just perhaps there is something amiss with a certain segment of our populace where the highest percentage of crime occurs. Immediately you are condemned as a racist ...
Speaking of percentages, I live in the Cincinnati area ... the city is presently on pace to break the annual murder record, it will top out this year probably close to 85. Eighty-five percent of those murders are black on black and most drug related. The number of murders varies from year to year but the percentages remain the same.
BS...glad to not have you back in the beautiful and historic State of NJ. If you by chance find yourself back here, give me advanced warning so I can leave for the day.
Don't worry, that ain't gonna happen
Great news. Have a good life.
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