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Teen sues Christian high school for expulsion over lesbian kiss
Court TV ^ | 12/8/5 | Emanuella Grinberg

Posted on 12/08/2005 6:39:33 PM PST by SmithL

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To: Grizzled Bear
It doesn't, and that's the whole argument here.

It appears to give a vague line about the spirit of the school.

61 posted on 12/08/2005 8:13:42 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: SmithL

The lawsuit apparently asserts that adverse publicity made the girl and her family pack up and depart the first town - but conveniently ignores how publicity from the present lawsuit will emphatically make known the girl, and all her former actions, in the second town, and now throughout the entire U. S.

The school has the greater interest here. The student and her family knew the rules when they enrolled. The knowledge in the town of the girl's actions is only that which would reasonably result from such a situation.


62 posted on 12/08/2005 8:14:22 PM PST by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: Luis Gonzalez

>Was she in school?<

Doesn't matter.She signed a contract to abide by these schools standards 24/7.


63 posted on 12/08/2005 8:18:46 PM PST by Blessed
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To: Luis Gonzalez

It doesn't, and that's the whole argument here.

It appears to give a vague line about the spirit of the school.
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The epistles of Paul?


64 posted on 12/08/2005 8:19:02 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Luis Gonzalez
(from http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=1&url_article_id=9281&url_subchannel_id=&change_well_id=2)
These counts allege that Covenant officials pried into her sex life, spread word about it by questioning other students and led to rumors circulating around the school.

Wow. Substitute "witch trial" for "witch hunt".

65 posted on 12/08/2005 8:24:39 PM PST by solitas
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"Recreational drugs, used by people whose entire job relies on physical performance,are a valid clause in a legal contract between employer and employee."

You're clueless, both cases are contract law.

"Was this young girl engaging in an illegal activity? "

Doesn't matter. Contract law

"Was she employed by the Church, or was the Church employed by her?"

Doesn't matter. Contract law

"Moral clauses by baseball teams involve defined contractual obligations not only between the team and the player as individual entities, but also with businesses who via endorsement contracts, have their image tied to the behavior of the player promoting their product. "

ALL OF THAT DOESN'T MATTER, ITS STILL A CONTRACT NO MATTER WHO IS ALL INVOLVED. And on top of that, they usually sign separate contracts.

"What we have in this story, is a girl kissing another girl during an after hours, non-school related activity, and an Inquisition by school officials."

Nice inflammatory rhetoric there. The school is responsible for the education environment of all students, not just the deviants. And about you're typical atheistic(not calling you an atheist) inflammatory rhetoric about he without sin cast the first stone, here's what Paul has to say.

"But now I am writing you that must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. 'Expel the wicked man from among you'"

"I see big dollars being paid out by this school, not for the expulsion, but for the violation of this girl's privacy."

It may very well happen, but I have my doubts. It's hard to tell without all the details of the case.

"While the actions of a baseball player engaging in inappropriate behavior in public could possibly do harm to the image of products he may be tied to via marketing, this girl's behavior in no way caused any harm to the school's reputation, yet they acted to destroy hers."

Note, none of this matters one bit whats so ever.

66 posted on 12/08/2005 8:25:43 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: Grizzled Bear

I hope this lawyer is not stupid enough to take this on a contengousy.He doesn't have a chance of getting 12 moonbeams on a jury in Barrow County.

People in that area know what the Bible says about homosexuality and they don't consider it vague.


67 posted on 12/08/2005 8:25:59 PM PST by Blessed
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Actually, by insisting on remaining in the school, she's the one who's the hypocrite.


68 posted on 12/08/2005 8:26:59 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: Blessed
There are standards, and there are guidelines.

Standards are clearly defined and set in writing.

The school must set a clearly defined standard for behavior, and specifically detail what behavior constitutes inappropriate behavior which can lead to expulsion.

I am willing to bet that they did not.

69 posted on 12/08/2005 8:27:03 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: AmishDude

She's not.

She moved.

Try reading the actual article.


70 posted on 12/08/2005 8:27:41 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: peyton randolph

You're an ass.


71 posted on 12/08/2005 8:28:52 PM PST by nanomid
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To: solitas

Odd that Clark argues against using the Bible, and then tries justification from content omission (expressly forbidden?).

Seems a bit hypocritical to me.


72 posted on 12/08/2005 8:30:33 PM PST by sayfer bullets
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To: Luis Gonzalez

>The school must set a clearly defined standard for behavior, and specifically detail what behavior constitutes inappropriate behavior which can lead to expulsion<

Your just making it up as you go along.Anyone who signs this contract which requires at least one parent to give witness they are a Christian knows the standard is the Bible and it is clear.


73 posted on 12/08/2005 8:31:42 PM PST by Blessed
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To: bahblahbah
"You're clueless, both cases are contract law."

I'm clueless?

Athletic contracts spend so much time and verbiage defining EXACTLY what constitutes what, that they are nearly impossible to read.

I know, I've read them.

"Speeding" on a highway is defined as being traveling at any speed above a very specific, posted rate of travel.

I've never seen a postedspeed limit sign that says SPEED LIMIT FAST.

The contract better specifically say that this behavior would lead to dismissal, or the school is toast.

74 posted on 12/08/2005 8:32:15 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I am sorry, I got it confused with this article:

Lesbian Student Can Sue School, Judge Says

Is there some sort of blitz going on?

75 posted on 12/08/2005 8:33:17 PM PST by AmishDude (Your corporate slogan could be here! FReepmail me for my confiscatory rates.)
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To: Blessed

If the Bible is so clear, what have the Catholics and the Protestants been fighting about for the past several hundred years?


76 posted on 12/08/2005 8:35:32 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

>Try reading the actual article.<

Err!! Actually you need to read the article.If the School had allowed her to remain for the last 18 days of school no suit.She was insisting on staying in the school.


77 posted on 12/08/2005 8:36:13 PM PST by Blessed
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To: peyton randolph

"Alright, everybody out of the pool".







78 posted on 12/08/2005 8:37:09 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: Luis Gonzalez

>If the Bible is so clear, what have the Catholics and the Protestants been fighting about for the past several hundred years?<

Not homosexuality.This is not a card game you can't bluff your way through.


79 posted on 12/08/2005 8:37:34 PM PST by Blessed
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To: AmishDude

Yeah...

This is teenage lesbians sweeps week, and Bravo ran out of Queer Eye For The Straight Guy episodes to run.


80 posted on 12/08/2005 8:37:48 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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