Is happiness a banned gun?

CBC (Canada) ^ | Dec 8, 2005 | John Gray

[proud_yank]

How many of those stolen American guns make their way into Canada, nobody knows. Canada Customs seizes about 1,500 smuggled guns every year, but that gives no indication of the real number. Only about three per cent of the traffic across the Canada-U.S. border is inspected, so the guns they miss may number 50,000 or many, many more.

Where they come up with these #'s is beyond me??? PM Martin used to use his line 'Up to 50% of guns used in crime could have come from the US', until it was admitted that the way that figure was calculated was not 'the most accurate'. All a statement like that tells me is somewhere between Zero and 50 %, probably closer to zero.

Take for example:

"The Canada Border Services Agency says it has intercepted 318 guns so far in 2005, below the more than 1,000 seized guns that border guards have averaged annually during the past five years, and far fewer than the 1,500 seized annually in the 1990s.

And while Toronto Police Service Chief Bill Blair was widely quoted last week as saying his officers have seized more than 2,000 guns so far in 2005, civilians in his statistics department say the chief inadvertently "misspoke." Their official tally is only 1,151, consistent with the pace of seizures in recent years.

Source: Globe and Mail, 'Statistics belie flood of guns from U.S.', August 15, 2005

The marijuana industry in BC alone is ~$6-7 Billion annually, and much of it is smuggled into the US. With that much trafficing, I bet that more illegal guns enter the US from Canada than visa-versa. Is that a fair statement? Would anyone disagree with me?

[Gordongekko909]

Criminals making weed-gun exchanges? Doesn't seem all that farfetched. Even if they aren't straight barter deals, I would certainly imagine that the profits made from one exchange fuel the others.

[Gaffer]

I would NEVER trade even my worst gun for weed.....

[Oberon]

I would NEVER trade even my worst gun for weed.....

That's because you're not a dope dealer.

A Raven .25 for a hundred pounds of BC Gold? Homey do that deal now.

[Gaffer]

Well, in that case, I might have an old Ortgies 32 for someone up in the big Canada....

[proud_yank]

Criminals making weed-gun exchanges?

I did not mean trading, I meant the larger pushers are generally armed when they come into the US from Canada.

If I had a legit job that required me to carry around $10,000 cash, I would have my CCW and carry a pistol. If I were illegally moving $10,000 worth of drugs to dealers, I would certainly be armed. Once they cross the border, just sell your pistol too for a hundred dollars. Why chance taking it back??

That is the point I was trying to make.

[Gordongekko909]

Oh, yeah. Any drug dealer that isn't packing is either A) a hippy with a clientele too stoned to try to hurt him, B) about to die, or C) Both.

[GW and Twins Pawpaw]

Me either....

[tet68]

The estimate of U.S. authorities is that 280 million people in the United States own 230 million guns.

Must be some of that "time share" Co-Ownership stuff liberals think up.

Dang, does this mean I own enough guns for 50 people?
I better buy more ammo.

[proud_yank]

I am rather moderate on the whole 'legalize pot' issue, but I do find it really, really tough to believe that the larger growers & dealers are not armed when moving that much $$ in illegal substance.

[tet68]

Anyway, Lennon said it best, "Happiness is a WARM gun..."

[proud_yank]

All I know is that one can never have too many guns. I'm asking Mom and Dad for another shotgun for Christmas. I had to try anyways!

[sit-rep]

BC Gold??

Now I have been around the block a few times in my day, but when I seen this, assuming BC is British Columbia, Canada, I had to chuckle a bit. I imagine this is some potent herb....

[processing please hold]

My son just brought me home a 5 shot Derringer for Christmas.

[backhoe]

When you are already a smuggler ( dope ) it is no big deal to toss in some iron ( weapons ) for resale over the border.

[WasDougsLamb]

"We're going to take handguns out of our communities."


----Too many of our citizens are shooting our robbers, rapists and killers and we won't stand for that! These people have rights too that are being violated when they are shot! ( just kiddin )

[Oberon]

Grass may be British Columbia's largest export in terms of dollars. In about thirty seconds worth of Google search, I turned up this...

BC Bud Depot

Apparently you can order your British Columbian weed seeds on the internet, using your Visa or MasterCard. I'll pass, thanks...but there's no denying it's a big business.

[sit-rep]

Well, I tell ya...I'll pass on the BC seeds. If I get the urge, I'll just settle with the trusty ol' indica strain from the Santa Cruz area. (grin)

[proud_yank]

Grass may be British Columbia's largest export in terms of dollars. In about thirty seconds worth of Google search, I turned up this...

It is a huge industry. Google: Marc Emery. He was a huge supplier of seeds who was extradited to the US for selling seeds into America. He was running a six-figure/yr. business in the US alone.

[muir_redwoods]

The estimate of U.S. authorities is that 280 million people in the United States own 230 million guns"

Some sort of timeshare or fractional ownership plan or something? 230MM into 280MM?