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Passengers tackle man charging cockpit on Honolulu flight
http://khon.com/khon/displayStory.cfm?storyID=9606 ^ | December 9, 2005 10:00 PM | Gina Mangieri

Posted on 12/10/2005 5:03:13 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement

A suspect is in federal custody after passengers say he threatened an infant and tried to charge the cockpit of an airplane en route to Honolulu. No air marshal was aboard, but seven passengers tackled and subdued him.

Passengers say the man's strange behavior started just a couple hours after Northwest Flight 91 took off from Los Angeles.

"He came up to first class several times, and at one point he really startled me... He came up to my left shoulder, and he got right in my face and he said something in Spanish -- he said something about medicine, like 'I need medicine,'" said passenger Linda Deckard from California.

She says the man even gestured threats toward a baby with a cell phone cord, and couldn't sit still. But thanks to one father's planning, a group of passengers are heroes to nearly 200 people on the flight.

"We got the word around first class that if he makes a move for the cockpit door, he's going down," said passenger Mike Deckard. "And that's just what happened. He made a move for the cockpit door and we were on top of him."

He and six others bound the suspect's hands and feet with a belt and cords from an on-board restraint pack.

"I think he's a hero," says Michael Deckard, age 13, about his dad. "I think he did a good job. Obviously he's watching a little bit of football with that tackle. Go dad!"

"If anybody's wants to try something, remember - there are 200 other people on the aircraft who are gonna stop you," Mike Deckard said.

The suspect is a 37-year-old Mexican national. He bit one man who helped tackle him -- a Honolulu Marathon runner who had to get a tetanus shot when they landed.

Passengers were questioned for a couple of hours after landing. The suspect is being held at the federal detention center.


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The suspect is a 37-year-old Mexican national. He bit one man who helped tackle him -- a Honolulu Marathon runner who had to get a tetanus shot when they landed.

Passengers were questioned for a couple of hours after landing. The suspect is being held at the federal detention center.

Has anyone heard this reported anywhere by the MSM?

1 posted on 12/10/2005 5:03:15 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Earlier thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1538004/posts


2 posted on 12/10/2005 5:05:24 PM PST by Unknown Freeper (Doing my part...)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

aircraft passengers gone wild


3 posted on 12/10/2005 5:05:54 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: WatchingInAmazement
The suspect is a 37-year-old Mexican national.

They don't say whether he was legal or illegal, so I'm assuming he's illegal.

4 posted on 12/10/2005 5:06:19 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Unknown Freeper

Thanks! I searched. So sorry it wasn't listed under any of ther keywords.


5 posted on 12/10/2005 5:06:26 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Has anyone heard this reported anywhere by the MSM?
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They will shelter this maggot because he is a Mexican, and most likely, not a citizen. How unusual...


6 posted on 12/10/2005 5:06:37 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Probably just figured he'd get some free meds. It worked out so well for that guy last week. ;)


7 posted on 12/10/2005 5:07:02 PM PST by geopyg (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

"he threatened an infant..."



How exactly do you threaten an infant?


8 posted on 12/10/2005 5:07:27 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Just another example that the passengers are the new first line of defense.


9 posted on 12/10/2005 5:08:34 PM PST by NonValueAdded (What ever happened to "Politics stops at the water's edge?")
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Another mentally unstable person without their meds.....

Kudo's to the passengers...


10 posted on 12/10/2005 5:09:03 PM PST by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

After 9/11 people just aren't taking any chances. Good for them.


11 posted on 12/10/2005 5:09:04 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: WatchingInAmazement

""I think he's a hero," says Michael Deckard, age 13, about his dad. "I think he did a good job. Obviously he's watching a little bit of football with that tackle. Go dad!""

Well, that's one boy who sounds like he is being brought up right.


12 posted on 12/10/2005 5:09:25 PM PST by gondramB ( We don't get no government loan and no one sends a check from home-we just do what what we wanna)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Maybe they should let him go. That way he could do a job that Americans won't do.


13 posted on 12/10/2005 5:10:41 PM PST by IonInsights
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To: WatchingInAmazement
That happens here sometimes..
I use the title of the article, which seems to work most of the time, as long as no one changes it.
14 posted on 12/10/2005 5:10:47 PM PST by concretebob (We should give anarchists what they want. Then we can kill them and not worry about jailtime.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement
I suppose he was off his meds as well?

Message to anyone out there. . .not taking their medication and who wants to travel. . .

STAY home.

15 posted on 12/10/2005 5:10:52 PM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: Brilliant

Brilliant:"How exactly do you threaten an infant?"

They are probably talking about this quote

"She says the man even gestured threats toward a baby with a cell phone cord,"


16 posted on 12/10/2005 5:11:30 PM PST by gondramB ( We don't get no government loan and no one sends a check from home-we just do what what we wanna)
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To: geopyg
Well, Hawaii is a liberal democrat stronghold
17 posted on 12/10/2005 5:11:36 PM PST by xcamel (a system poltergeist stole it.)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

This Mexican guy changed his mind mid-flight about wanting to do the work that Hawaiians won't do.


18 posted on 12/10/2005 5:11:55 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: WatchingInAmazement

In other news, John F. Kerry is checking with the
United Nations to see if it's okay to tackle
a bonkers passenger on an airliner.

Way to go, American guys!


19 posted on 12/10/2005 5:13:05 PM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Brilliant
The suspect is a 37-year-old Mexican national.

They don't say whether he was legal or illegal, so I'm assuming he's illegal.

To me, a Mexican national would be a legal Mexican citizen. Not that it matters, that's just the way I read it.

20 posted on 12/10/2005 5:13:07 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: Brilliant
How exactly do you threaten an infant?

LOL. . .and the infant was. . .traveling alone?

21 posted on 12/10/2005 5:13:28 PM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: WatchingInAmazement
Man subdued on flight here (inbound flight to Honolulu)

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051210/NEWS01/512100348

This source has more details. We cannot link to the Honolulu Advertiser in FR.

22 posted on 12/10/2005 5:13:41 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: WatchingInAmazement

BTTT


23 posted on 12/10/2005 5:14:35 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: WatchingInAmazement

I love hearing these stories about Americans on airplanes "taking care of business"...

This is not the first such case, and I'm certain there will be more.....

When I board planes, I look around and do a little "reality profiling" checking out who may be friend or foe.....

So sue me!

Semper Fi


24 posted on 12/10/2005 5:15:38 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: ozarkgirl
To me, a Mexican national would be a legal Mexican citizen. Not that it matters, that's just the way I read it.

You would think. . .but then; why not just say he was/lived. . .traveling from. . . Mexico. Or as you offer; just say. . .Mexican 'Citizen'.

What IS with the 'national'. . .save only to obscure, perhaps.. .

25 posted on 12/10/2005 5:15:53 PM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: WatchingInAmazement

I didn't see him threaten an infant or charge the cockpit. I think the other passengers overreacted.

Now can I get me a Today Show interview?


26 posted on 12/10/2005 5:16:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: river rat
I love hearing these stories about Americans on airplanes "taking care of business"... This is not the first such case, and I'm certain there will be more..... When I board planes, I look around and do a little "reality profiling" checking out who may be friend or foe..... So sue me! Semper Fi

We'll all have to be "vigilantes" before this WOT is over.

27 posted on 12/10/2005 5:17:04 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: cripplecreek

Good show. I'm just waiting for MSM/Katie Couric/BarbaraBoxer/Streisand/ etc to blame Bush because the passengers did not receive adequate training, showing Bush is a racist, etc.


28 posted on 12/10/2005 5:20:18 PM PST by JewishRighter
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To: WatchingInAmazement
Of all the places to act out one's stupidity an airplane is the worst.

He's lucky they did not kill him. I certainly would have done my dead level best to do so.

29 posted on 12/10/2005 5:20:29 PM PST by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: IonInsights
Maybe they should let him go. That way he could do a job that Americans won't do.

He was probably taking some meds that Americans didn't want to take.

30 posted on 12/10/2005 5:22:01 PM PST by Unruly Human
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To: river rat

In Germany I profile all the time in terms of what subway car I get on and where I stand.


31 posted on 12/10/2005 5:24:07 PM PST by GermanBusiness
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To: NonValueAdded

Yes, and why we need armed aircrews.


32 posted on 12/10/2005 5:24:54 PM PST by Ace's Dad ("There are more important things: Friendship, Bravery...")
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Good Work!


33 posted on 12/10/2005 5:25:21 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: WatchingInAmazement

i don't think any US airplane will ever been hijacked again


34 posted on 12/10/2005 5:26:30 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (The search for someone to blame is always successful. - Robert Half)
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To: river rat

"When I board planes, I look around and do a little "reality profiling" checking out who may be friend or foe..... "

Are you committing a "nonverbal hate crime"?


35 posted on 12/10/2005 5:28:14 PM PST by strategofr
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To: LibKill

"Of all the places to act out one's stupidity an airplane is the worst."

Remember the story from a couple of weeks ago, about the drunk woman who tried to open the door of the plane so she could smoke? I think she was a Frenchwoman,


36 posted on 12/10/2005 5:28:28 PM PST by jocon307
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To: righttackle44
In other news, John F. Kerry is checking with the United Nations to see if it's okay to tackle

I think it's safe to say that JFK wouldn't have been part of that 'gang of seven'...manual labor, you know?

37 posted on 12/10/2005 5:28:36 PM PST by ErnBatavia (403-3)
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To: Lorianne
We cannot link to the Honolulu Advertiser in FR.

That's amazing, given that it's a 12 page rag that is basically a doorknob hanger for the Waikiki Beach hotels.

You'd think they'd appreciate the exposure.

38 posted on 12/10/2005 5:30:11 PM PST by ErnBatavia (403-3)
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To: IonInsights
Maybe they should let him go. That way he could do a job that Americans won't do.

Mexican national does not mean he was an illegal. Despite what some probably wish was true, foreign nationals are allowed to fly on U.S. airlines. Of course certain people think that anyone born is Mexico is an illegal alien even if they are now U.S. citizens, have proper visitation papers, or are legal residents.

39 posted on 12/10/2005 5:31:03 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Those Who Want to Impeach President Bush Are the Party of Treason.)
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To: ozarkgirl

Yes, he could have flown in on a connection from MexCity to LAX for all we know.


40 posted on 12/10/2005 5:31:52 PM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (OP Spread the Truth....http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1535158/posts)
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To: Ace's Dad

"Yes, and why we need armed aircrews."

In addition, the door to the cockpit should remain closed and locked throughout the flight. Those doors are very thick, and for all practical purposes, impossible for person to get through. The pilots could wear something that would eliminate their need to go to the bathroom---such as a military pilot.

(This idea comes from the guy who wrote the book, The Gift of Fear, can't remember his name.)


41 posted on 12/10/2005 5:32:31 PM PST by strategofr
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To: strategofr

Damn right!

Because any sonuvabitch that tries anything, it going to get a dose of hate and pent up anger that will get his attention....

Semper Fi


42 posted on 12/10/2005 5:33:47 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: cricket

"why not just say . .Mexican 'Citizen'."

"Mexican national" is the more common phrase to use in an international context.


43 posted on 12/10/2005 5:33:50 PM PST by strategofr
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To: WatchingInAmazement
Let's Roll!

The time when you could do this on any American plane ended on Sept 12th 2001.

44 posted on 12/10/2005 5:34:32 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: river rat

"Damn right!"

I'm with you. Just teasing.


45 posted on 12/10/2005 5:35:32 PM PST by strategofr
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To: WatchingInAmazement
Reminds me of the story, a few months ago, of a passenger on an LA to NY flight that was angry and upset with the flight attendent -- and was asking to be served another drink. As he moved forward in the plane (looking for the 'supervisor'/ bursar), he was tackled by a bunch of guys, reportedly all on a rugby team.

They sat on top of him to restrain him, and the passenger complained of not being able to breathe, and he died sometime in flight -- he was DOA upon arrival in NY.

There was supposedly an investigation, but no news has emerged.

At least these guys didn't kill the passenger, and I think here they acted properly. In the other case I've mentioned, I'm not convinced that they didn't use excessive force.

46 posted on 12/10/2005 5:35:35 PM PST by WL-law
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To: Ace's Dad
Yes, and why we need armed aircrews.

The aircrews are now locked behind a door. This is why we need polite and active citizenry. In this instance human life was not snuffed out, with an excuse of the "B-word". Belt, shoelace, and Bic pen were utilized. Big Brother does not know best. A threat perceived became a threat acted upon.

47 posted on 12/10/2005 5:36:33 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: Unknown Freeper
the man even gestured threats toward a baby with a cell phone cord

Forget the perp- ask yourselves: WHY did the baby have a cell phone cord?

48 posted on 12/10/2005 5:36:53 PM PST by InkStone
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To: WatchingInAmazement
flight
49 posted on 12/10/2005 5:39:19 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: JewishRighter
Good show. I'm just waiting for MSM/Katie Couric/BarbaraBoxer/Streisand/ etc to blame Bush because the passengers did not receive adequate training, showing Bush is a racist, etc.

I think it's more likely these patriots will be labled 'Vigilantes' by G. Bush...Taking the law into their own hands...Violating this whacko's civil rights...

50 posted on 12/10/2005 5:45:08 PM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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