Shazam! What Took So Long?

Citizen Soldier ^ | December 2005 | Stella L. Jatras

[tgambill]

"Nope. There is zero evidence that bin Laden ever visited Kosovo or Bosnia. And the bin Laden Bosnian passport story, much beloved of Serbs trying to gain exculpation for their murderous ethnic cleansing campaigns by associating them with our war on terror, is tenuous at best. It comes from the Bosnian weekly “Dani’s” story in 1999 that the Bosnian Embassy in Vienna MAY have issued a passport to bin Laden in 1993. Follow the link and you will see that the bin Laden Bosnian passport story is based on anonymous sources and destroyed documents, the “sources” themselves are unclear as to whether it was even issued, and that in any event, the officials at the embassy in 1993 would not even have known who bin Laden was. Even this guy’s stories were more convincing."

*****Bin Ladin was in Albania and certianly had a Bosnian passport. This was common knowledge among the Security community. They were short visits, but visits nonetheless. Plenty of reports, and the evidence was the issued passports.

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"much beloved of Serbs trying to gain exculpation for their murderous ethnic cleansing campaigns by associating them with our war on terror, is tenuous at best."

*****The Serbs did not go on Murderous ethnic cleansing. This is absolutely a wrong description. Serbia did not conduct ethnic cleasing operations according to the true definition of Ethnic cleasing. The Albanian extremist have......and are doing it today....as we write. You do not understand the situation over there..you are making conclusions from reports that you read about, and are false. No discussion or debate.........

[montyspython]

"You do not understand the situation over there..you are making conclusions from reports that you read about, and are false. No discussion or debate"

Tom he does understand the situation, he's just lying to you. He's paid to negotiate on Albania's behalf.

[tgambill]

I see.......actually paid or "assigned" to provide disinformation? So, you are telling me that these sites are that widely read that it makes an impact on a large scale?

I have only one agenda......to hear the truth and if confirmed, "DISTRIBUTE" the truth. I am loyal to my country as long as the truth is being told. If not, then I WILL expose a lie in a heartbeat. I am not, and will never be politically correct as a matter of routine.

Thanks for your attention in this post.......:) I love to stir the pot with facts....

Tom

[tgambill]

When the article is published in the next week or so....it will be a gang buster....This will piss off a lot of people. I'll post the article when it's ready to distribute.....:) stand by....for about 1-2 weeks.....

Tom

[USF]

What took so long for it to become obvious that Bosnia and other parts of the Balkans are the launching pad for terrorist attacks in Europe?

I'm dumbfounded.... if they bothered to wade thru any mainstream islamic forum a few years back to read the articles or look at their collection of islamic snuff videos of the Balkan and Chechnyan jihads, it would have been clear for all to see.

[Doctor13]

"Nope. There is zero evidence that bin Laden ever visited Kosovo or Bosnia."

The Wall Street Journal Europe.

November 1, 2001

Excerpts

Al Qaeda´s Balkan Links
by Marcia Christoff Kurop

The Balkans´ uncharacteristically silent exit from the world stage as the most prominent international hot spot of the last decade belies its status as a major recruiting and training center of Osama bin Laden´s al Qaeda network. By feeding off the region´s impoverished republics and taking root in the unsettled diplomatic aftermath of the Bosnia and Kosovo conflicts, al Qaeda, along with Iranian Revolutionary Guard-sponsored terrorists, have burrowed their way into Europe´s backyard.

For the past 10 years, the most senior leaders of al Qaeda have visited the Balkans, including bin Laden himself on three occasions between 1994 and 1996. The Egyptian surgeon turned terrorist leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri has operated terrorist training camps, weapons of mass destruction factories and money-laundering and drug-trading networks throughout Albania, Kosovo, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Turkey and Bosnia. This has gone on for a decade. Many recruits to the Balkan wars came originally from Chechnya, a jihad in which Al Qaeda has also played a part.

Although Clinton wasn't inagurated until 1993, there is no doubt that he was Alija Izetbegovic's biggest supporter, who said in his Islamic Declaration, "There can be no peace or coexistence between Islamic faith and non-Islamic faith political institutions....The Islamic movement must and can take place as soon as it is morally and numerically strong neough, not only to destroy the non-Islamic one, but to build up a new Islamic one."

No one was more passionate in his destruction of the Christian Serbs than William Jefferson Clinton.

You must admire him greatly!

[Doctor13]

There should have been an end of quote after the last sentence, "Many recruits to the Balkan wars came originally from Chechnya, a jihad in which Al Qaeda has also played a part."

Sorry, but just wanted to make it clear that that is where the quote from The Wall Street Journal ended.

[mark502inf]

Like I said, Doc, and as the article you just posted verifies, there is zero evidence to support your contention that bin Laden visited Bosnia and Kosovo. As pointed out earlier in this thread, your column is filled with factual errors and that is one of them.

There was in fact a report that bin Laden may have visited Albania (Fatos Klosi of ShIK, iirc)in the 1990s, but other than your unsubstantiated assertions, there is nothing to show he ever went to Bosnia or Kosovo.

I know your agenda is that the Serbs were the good guys and the Croats & Bosnians & Albanians, i.e. everyone else, were the bad guys. However, if you have to fabricate stuff to make your case, you may want re-examine some of your beliefs.

[tgambill]

"There was in fact a report that bin Laden may have visited Albania (Fatos Klosi of ShIK, iirc)in the 1990s, but other than your unsubstantiated assertions, there is nothing to show he ever went to Bosnia or Kosovo.

I know your agenda is that the Serbs were the good guys and the Croats & Bosnians & Albanians, i.e. everyone else, were the bad guys. However, if you have to fabricate stuff to make your case, you may want re-examine some of your beliefs."


******Bin Ladin had a Bosnian Passport, fact. He did visit Bosnia to see to his Jihadist. The Croats, Bosnian Muslims and Albanian KLA were the bad guys here. There were Serbian paramilitary action that were also bad guys as Serbia convicted 14 or 15 just this past week. The ICTY is doing a horrid job by letting Ramush and Fatmir L. go free. They are responsible for not only murdering Serb men, women and children, but also Albanians. The Mafia reigns in Kosovo along with the UN heirarchy. $$$$. The U.S. is also involved in this coverup and favoritism. The middle of the road Albanians and minorities will be the victims. The Islamic Fundies are targeting Internationals for next years assaults. The Serbs did not murder 8,000 muslims in Srebrinica. 3,010 voted in the next years election for starters. Even the Albanians don't know the whole truth as they are inclined to believe what they are told......We have only seen the beginning of a Jihad...in the Balkans that will ignite in Kosovo.

[montyspython]

I warned you that Mark was a denialist.

[ma bell]

mark, if you admitted your anti-Serb hatred and edged a little towards admitting that a few of us on this board are correct, you might sound more convincing. Instead, your incredolous BS only exposes your agenda of spewing Anti-Serb hatred.

[ma bell]

Tom, Merry Christmas.

When you have time, let us discuss Racak. What facts do you know of where the dead Albanians that were found in that village came from for starters.

[montyspython]

Oh oh, you said th "R" word, Hoplite gonna be mad!

[Wraith]

I can tell as fact that Bin Laden in 2000 was in control of an Islamic aid organization operating in Kosovo. The reason I can verify this is because a beige 4x4 from this Islamic aid organization was observed videotaping the U.S. Depart of State compound located on the Dragodan side of Pristina. As a result of the U.S. reaction to this all Intetl efforts were then directed in identifying the members of this Islamic aid organization all other operations were then suspended. Huge paranoia ensued. Take a guess who made the link to Bin Laden? It was not I.....

[montyspython]

"I can tell as fact that Bin Laden in 2000 was in control of an Islamic aid organization operating in Kosovo."

Waiting for the denialist bullsh*t machine operated by Hoplite and mark to start revving up. These two neo-Ottomans are neck deep in it.

[tgambill]

Read JawBreaker...it came out today....premise "we allowed Bin Laden to escape".... duh!

[tgambill]

Merry Christmas....to you...I'll have to gather the info....on Racak....

I just got back from being in N.C......Have a ass kicking New Year and watch the Balkans this Spring......

[tgambill]

I found several good sources on Racak...and will complete a "report" per se, this week.....

Tom

[tgambill]

Curious......Revival of Heritage Islamic Society...(Iranian), Al Haramain, Saudi Joint Relief Committee, The International Islamic Relief Organisation, World Assembly for Muslim Youth, AL Waqf Al Islami, Saudi Red Cresent Society, or... Islamic International Relief Organization for starters....its getting very complicated....

[Wraith]

I will have to look up which Islamic Aid organization involved and get back to you. The amount of Islamic aid organizations funneling money back to the middle east under the guise of charity does make your head spin. How much actually helps the poor Muslim makes me wonder.