[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for the ping to your post!

Once upon a time "science" referred to the entire body of knowledge, episteme - philosophy - spiritual and natural - all of it. Hence I Timothy 6:20-21 in the King James translation says:

O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace [be] with thee. Amen.

The modern translations accommodate science tunneling its field of view to nature alone and use the word "philosophy" to keep an overarching meaning - all attempts of science to unseat philosophy notwithstanding.

[Oztrich Boy]

Once upon a time "science" referred to the entire body of knowledge, episteme - philosophy - spiritual and natural - all of it. Hence I Timothy 6:20-21 in the King James translation says:

Actually "the entire body of knowledge, episteme - philosophy - spiritual and natural - all of it" was not what Paul was refering to in I Timothy 6:20-21

[js1138]

Science doesn't try to unseat philosophy any more than it tries to unseat mathematics.

But science can change our perception of what is normal, reasonable, intuitive and natural by expanding our ability to observe.

Things that have historically have eluded our ability to assign causes have had causes assigned by science. Some are mundane like volcanos and earthquakes; some a little more difficult, like mental illness.

Our interpretation of these phenomena changes as science advances.

[hosepipe]

[ The modern translations accommodate science tunneling its field of view to nature alone and use the word "philosophy" to keep an overarching meaning - all attempts of science to unseat philosophy notwithstanding. ]

Ouch... that had to hurt some calloused conciences..
Hmmmmm.. calloused conciences don't feel pain... DuuuH on my part...

[Quark2005]

Once upon a time "science" referred to the entire body of knowledge, episteme - philosophy - spiritual and natural - all of it.

This is exactly why we distinguish the natural sciences from the broader spectrum of science (i.e. social science, philosophical science, etc.):

From the Oxford American Dictionary:

natural science
noun (usu. natural sciences)
a branch of science that deals with the physical world, e.g., physics, chemistry, geology, and biology.
 • the branch of knowledge that deals with the study of the physical world.

DERIVATIVES natural scientist noun

With all due respect, complaining that the natural sciences don't address the supernatural seems to me to be like complaining that a laxative won't get rid of your headache. I'm fine with ID being taught as part of the broader scope of philosophy (as are most other supporters of teaching evolution), but not under the pretense of it being part of the natural science of biology.