How to study the Koran
Posted on 12/12/2005 12:49:07 PM PST by milestogo
By Caryle MurphyWashington Post Staff Writer
Monday, December 12, 2005; 1:48 PM
An internationally prominent Saudi businessman said today that he is donating $20 million each to Georgetown and Harvard universities to expand the study of Islam and the Muslim world as part of his philanthropic efforts aimed at promoting interreligious understanding.
Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal, a member of the Saudi royal family, said in a telephone interview from the Saudi capital of Riyadh that he also has established the first two centers for American studies in the Middle East, to be located at universities in Beirut and Cairo.
"As you know, since the 9/11 events, the image of Islam has been tarnished in the West," said Alwaleed, who is chairman of the Riyadh-based Kingdom Holding Company and has extensive business holdings in Europe and the United States.
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would he accept the money for Christan Studies in Saudi Arabia?
Why should they study Islam when Georgetown is a purportedly Catholic university, and they don't study (or even respect) Christianity?
I wonder if we can do the same to promote Christianity in Saudi Arabia without the teacher getting his/her head chopped off?
I think they should use this money to study Islam -- namely to better understand it as a mental disorder and to help find a treatment.
DO NOT take the money...money is not everything . Do not let these duplicitous and cunning people subvert our institutions
of higher learning into more of their cheap little madrassas.
Moslems are the heathens , they are the ones that should be studying other religions , not vice versa. Reject this offer
entirely.
saudi ping.
That's $40,000,000 less for bomb making materials, and it's not like Harvard or Georgetown were going to be teaching anything resembling the truth about Islam without that donation.
A little donation from the Reich to further the cultural appreciation of national socialism.
I doubt there'll be any honest study of Islam in that department, more like a study of how to impose Islam on westerners.
"F" him.
How to study the Koran
Gee....maybe they will start giving scholarships for garbagemen.
Great. We can't mention God in government, or the real Judeo/Christian God in schools, but the study of the black rock god of Islam and his pedophile mass murdering prophet is OK? NOT!!!
The Gay prince of Saudi land can stick that money where his gay slave tickles him.
Christian churches and schools in Saudi land before we will even think about it, and God back in our schools FIRST!
On Showtime's Sleeper Cell, the Islamic terrorists were discussing targets, and when one of them suggested a university, the cell's leader said "no way, too much potential support!" (paraphrasing)
Yikes.
-promoting interreligious understanding.-
I'd laugh except it ain't funny.
That's the problem.
Islam is evil. Class dismissed.
For me personally, I just don't trust the guy.
If he's giving $40 million, he's expecting a return for his money.
So what does he expect?
Is it seed money for an intellectual sleeper cell?
I don't know. But I am suspicious.
Georgetown and Harvard sold themselves pretty cheap.
With his money, it will be "Christians and jews are evil, the world is for Allah, Islam is good, class dismissed"
Yeah, wouldn't it be hilarious if both schools studied for a couple years and then made a joint statement:
"Islam as practiced in the world today is often a violent, stone-age cult for the psychologically immature. It kills those who disagree with it and demeans women and other religions. Its practice is discouraged."
How much money does it take to understand the koran is worth less that toilet paper? At least TP has a good function.
Someone should reject this arrogant Saudi prick's donation the way Rudy Guiliani rejected the Saudi's earlier donation right after 9/11. When they give us money and then say that our policies cause terrorism, we should tell them to go f*** themselves.
Islamic fanatics were murdering Jews, Christians, and their fellow Muslims when the United States didn't even exist. The true root cause of terrorism is the fanaticism, intolerance, and hatred of liberty that comes out of places like Saudi Arabia.
"DO NOT take the money..."
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You're asking Jesuits to turn down the money?
BWAAHAAHAA!!
Institutions of lower learning. Only $40,000/ year of Anti-American indoctrination.
This makes about as much sense as calling a Karl Marx a businessman. Monarchists and Communists are birds of a feather, they both assert their will by force on others. A businessman makes an exchange free of coercion.
Hush money, I'd think 40 million would buy at least 4 or 5 hundred favorable studies of Islam.
he also has established the first two centers for American studies in the Middle East
All I needed to learn about islam I learned on September 11, 2001.
Islam is anti-homosexual. I wonder if the campus lefties will object to this the way they object to military recruiters on campus. Or the way they object to Ann Coulter.
Just what they need.
They provide for exceptions to the mullahs.
Huh? The American University in Beirut was established many years ago by the Dodge family.
OH GD. Send it back. It's sickening to see our thirst for oil used to defeat us ideologically.
(probably this guy gave to pakistani charities as well.)
South Asia
Dec 6, 2005
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/GL06Df01.html
US on the scent of terror money in Pakistan
By Syed Saleem Shahzad
KARACHI - Beyond the tragedy of more than 70,000 lives being lost in the October 8 earthquake that devastated large sections of Pakistan-administered Kashmir, the disaster alerted US intelligence to the fact that the financial conduits that feed militancy and terror remain very much intact.
At very short notice, millions of dollars poured into the coffers of the jihadi group Jamaatut Dawa (formerly Lashkar-i-Taiba), allowing it to immediately take over relief operations in Kashmir while the Pakistan government dallied.
As a direct consequence of this realization, the US Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA) once again prevailed on Islamabad to launch an offensive against al-Qaeda-linked foreign elements sheltering in the country, notably in the North and South Waziristan tribal areas on the border with Afghanistan.
One Pakistan move involves Ghazi Abdul Rasheed and Maulana Abdul Aziz of the famous Lal Masjid Islamabad. They issued a controversial religious edict during one of the previous operations in South Waziristan calling on people not to pray at the funerals of Pakistan Army personnel killed in action in the area. The two religious leaders have had their movements restricted.
On the US side, they appear to have scored a hit with the elimination of al-Qaeda number three, Hamza Rabia, in North Waziristan, apparently through missiles fired from a CIA drone. However, the body has not been found and al-Qaeda has denied that he is dead.
During the latest crackdown, the activities of the Jamaatut Dawa are also under the spotlight.
A high-level Washington-based source told Asia Times Online:
"Like prayers, zakat [compulsory charity - 2.5% of an individuals's annual reserves/savings in Sunni Islam and 5% among Shi'ites] and pilgrimage, jihad is also an integral part of the Muslim faith, that is why there is a trend that those Muslim philanthropists who build mosques, seminaries and donate money to Islamic relief operators also send money to those they view as mujahideen. That is the reason decision-makers in Washington are convinced that those who contribute money to Islamic groups in Kashmir are also involved in supporting the resistance in Iraq and Afghanistan."
The current operations in Pakistan are being supervised and controlled by US intelligence. The role of the Pakistani forces is to do the supporting "donkey work".
A case study
Dr Dawood Qasmi, a graduate of the Dow Medical College in the port city of Karachi, works at the National Institute of Child Health in the same city. The US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is in hot pursuit of him.
His father, brother and two nephews were arrested, and the women of his family were threatened with arrest if Dawood did not give himself up. However, a hue and cry raised in the media forced government agencies to release the men and lay off the women.
Dawood is a former commander of the banned Laskhar-i-Taiba in Sindh province. His role was to recruit civilians to join the Kashmiri movement. He was closely associated with the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Kashmir cell. The ISI provided him with ample funds to recruit youths, beside giving him expensive vehicles and armed guards. Laskhar-i-Taiba was one of the most active militant groups in Kashmir.
But post-September 11, 2001, events changed Dawood's life (Asia Times Online wrote a detailed account of his life Confessions of a failed jihadi , although he was not identified by name in the story).
Disillusioned, he gave up his activities with Laskhar and returned to his quiet life in the medical world.
"Dr Dawood Qasmi fully realized it [operations in Kashmir] was not a jihad but a Pakistan Army operation for which it was only using civilians as gun fodder. So he set himself aside. Initially he was working with an online medicine research firm and later on he joined the National Institute of Child Health," said his daughter, Dr Hania Dawood Qasmi of the Baqai Medical University in Karachi.
"Three months ago a colonel approached Dawood and tried to prepare him to work again for Laskhar, but Dawood refused. He said to me that he knew that as he had already been tracked by the FBI, an association with Laskhar was essential as it was the only way to get government protection. But he said that his conscience was not ready for him to become a Laskhar member again, as it would mean being an ISI proxy," Hania Dawood maintained.
Dawood was then left alone. But once the relief operation started in Kashmir, he was contacted by the Jamaatut Dawa to help as a doctor. He agreed, and was quickly provided with huge sums of money to purchase medicine and surgical equipment to be taken to Kashmir to establish mobile hospitals, and even an operating theater.
A week ago, as a result of the US-inspired campaign to track money sources, all senior police officials were asked to update their information on jihadis, especially those active in their areas. Dawood would probably not have been targeted, had not his friend from Laskhar days, Arif Qasmani, been involved.
Arif Qasmani was a part of a high-level November 14 meeting in Islamabad held to initiate a process for peace between the Afghan resistance and coalition forces led by the US. Apparently, Arif Qasmani spoke about Dawood and his involvement in the relief operations, and also about how he had quickly received cash.
Ears obviously pricked up. Soon after, a joint team of the FBI, the army and the police raided Dawood's home in the early hours of the morning, explained Hania Dawood, but her father was out.
"We were the ones who suffered from the hands of the police," said Dawood's 75-year-old father, Abdul Rauf. "They handcuffed me, my son and my grandson. They called us names and forced us to tell where Dr Dawood was. They threatened us that if we didn't tell them the whereabouts of Dr Dawood, they would humiliate all our family members and detain the women and humiliate them in front of our eyes. They did not properly feed us. I was the first person who was released because my health deteriorated."
Later, after the media got onto the case, all family members were released.
Dr Dawood Qasmi's whereabouts are still unknown.
Syed Saleem Shahzad, Bureau Chief, Pakistan Asia Times Online. He can be reached at saleem_shahzad2002@yahoo.com
'Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal, a member of the Saudi royal family, said in a telephone interview from the Saudi capital of Riyadh that he also has established the first two centers for American studies in the Middle East, to be located at universities in Beirut and Cairo.'
"Huh? The American University in Beirut was established many years ago by the Dodge family."
Aculeus, haven't you learned yet? Its in the nature of these freakazoid islamist thugs to claim EVERYTHING as their own; they conquer cultures then claim EVERYTHING those cultures had which existed before them as their own: the Crescent Moon and Star, Byzantine Empire, Moses, Jesus, Jerusalem, the "Arabic" number system, Paris. The list goes on and on...
I was referring to the Washington Post. But thanks anyway.
Let me be among the first to say - Bull Manure.
later read.
Well actually, they don't really claim Jesus as their own, as they pretty much call him a liar in the Koran as well as everyone who follows him.
I know, I was just being sarcastic...not towards you but the jihadists. ;)
It is a dirty shame that Harvard, which began as a Christian institution, will now do anything to undermine Christianity. This is the most shameful betrayal of God and country since Judas sold out Jesus for 40 pieces of silver. I wouldn't send my dog to Harvard. They are an enemy institution.
Better tell that to their women and daughters who are regularly disfigured, beaten, stoned and raped in the name of their religion.
Where'd you get the idea that they are to devote their life to loving God? Their's is a life of obedience and submission to an angry odd being, not love.
The literal meaning of the word Islam is "submit".
That's not love.
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