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Now churches are targeted
The Australian ^ | December 15, 2005 | Nick Leys and Dan Box

Posted on 12/14/2005 10:45:43 AM PST by Dundee

Now churches are targeted

FOUR churches in Sydney's southwest have been attacked in 24 hours as the city's riots spread from race to religion.

A community hall linked to a Uniting church was burned to the ground early yesterday, carol-singers were spat on and church buildings peppered with gunfire.

In response, members of the Arab Christian and Arab Muslim communities have called for a curfew for all Lebanese youths over the weekend.

Police believe the attack on the hall, in the suburb of Auburn, was intended to destroy the Uniting church next door, while nearby StThomas's Anglican Church, which has a primarily Chinese congregation, had all its front windows smashed. Three of the attacks were on churches within minutes of each other. The night before, Molotov cocktails were used in an attack on an Anglican church in Macquarie Fields in the city's far southwest.

Arab Christians have suggested the attacks on churches may have been meant as a violent attempt to "shame" the city's Lebanese Christian community into supporting Lebanese Muslims in the race-hate war, which began as a battle against young white males over use of suburban beaches.

Community leaders said Lebanese youths should not venture out after 9pm on Friday and Saturday, and should stay home all day on Sunday.

"Those who violate the curfew will be doing so in defiance of their faith, of the law and their community leaders. We are all united in opposing violence," Lebanese Muslim Association leader Ahmad Kamaledine said.

Anglican Archbishop Peter Jensen welcomed the call for a curfew. "We must remember that it is first of all in the home that we learn to respect and care for others," he said.

"So I trust that all parents will join these community leaders in encouraging their own young people to exhibit mature and thoughtful respect for other people at all times."

Despite the call for a curfew, the state Government, police, community and religious leaders were bracing for a violent clash between opposing ethnic groups over the weekend.

The church attacks prompted NSW Premier Morris Iemma to yesterday assign extra police to monitor places of worship.

Mr Iemma said police would pay special attention to churches, schools and church halls. "We have to be on guard for this, and these hooligans and criminals will not destroy the fabric of our society," he said.

A heavy police presence was again ordered last night as the suburb of Cronulla - the scene of race-related violence on Sunday - began a second night of lock-down and police roadblocks.

During a tour of the command post set up in the Sydney Police Centre to co-ordinate the crisis, Deputy Commissioner Andrew Scipione told Mr Iemma the situation was being treated as if it were a terror attack.

"We are running the same command and control centre as we would for a terrorist situation," Mr Scipione said.

Elsewhere in Sydney, two men were attacked in separate incidents by men wielding bats and golf clubs and asking their victims if they were Australian.

Steve Stanton, a spokesman for the Maronite Catholic Church in Australia, said he thought the shooting outside a carol service in South Auburn on Monday night was the responsibility of a "very small minority" of fanatics within the wider Muslim community.

"There is also a view that it will have been done with a view to shaming the Lebanese for not standing united," he said.

Amjad Mehboob, head of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, said he believed the violence had been committed by an extremist fringe of the Muslim community. "I wish we knew who they were. I wish we could engage with them so we can find out what their beliefs are, so we can deal with them," he said.

"This is something that started out as a minor scuffle between some youths and a couple of life-savers that has suddenly become an issue of racism and religion. Buildings can be rebuilt, but the damage this is doing to our community is extremely deep."

Reverend Glenys Biddle, of the Uniting church in Auburn, said the destroyed hall had been a important part of the local Tongan community. "For them, they have lost not only a physical building but a sense of fellowship," she said. "A lot of memories have also been lost for Anglos, Tongans and people of all sorts of cultures."

Shafiq Khan, the principal of the al-Faisal College next door, said Christians and Muslims had always worked amicably, and the fire - coupled with the fear it may promote - was a loss for both religions. "This is a crime against peace, the community and the country; a crime against harmony and against our children, who used the hall," he said.

Television and sporting celebrities and leaders from Sutherland Shire and the Islamic community will hold a meeting this morning, brokered by local MP Bruce Baird, to try to settle their differences.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabs; churchburning; islam; jihadinaustralia; muslims; rop; sydneyriots; trop
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Arab Christians have suggested the attacks on churches may have been meant as a violent attempt to "shame" the city's Lebanese Christian community into supporting Lebanese Muslims in the race-hate war, which began as a battle against young white males over use of suburban beaches.

I think that is gonna backfire as this will become Christian v's Muslim rather than Skips v's Lebs.

Reverend Glenys Biddle, of the Uniting church in Auburn, said the destroyed hall had been a important part of the local Tongan community. "For them, they have lost not only a physical building but a sense of fellowship," she said. "A lot of memories have also been lost for Anglos, Tongans and people of all sorts of cultures."

Tongans!! The last people you want to make enemies of are Tongans. Dumb mistake on the part of the Muslims.

This weekend is going to be bad. Bad squared. I'm staying at home on the weekend (I live in an area that could see some fighting).

1 posted on 12/14/2005 10:45:43 AM PST by Dundee
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To: Dundee

Keep us posted. Not much press in the US about the riots yet, but if this keeps up eventually it will have to be talked about.

You guys are in our prayers.


2 posted on 12/14/2005 10:48:16 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Dundee

Onward Christian soldiers.


3 posted on 12/14/2005 10:48:29 AM PST by samadams2000 (Nothing fills the void of a passing hurricane better than government)
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To: NYer
Arab Christians have suggested the attacks on churches may have been meant as a violent attempt to "shame" the city's Lebanese Christian community into supporting Lebanese Muslims in the race-hate war, which began as a battle against young white males over use of suburban beaches.

Maronites in Australis ping!

4 posted on 12/14/2005 10:49:23 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Dundee

"In response, members of the Arab Christian and Arab Muslim communities have called for a curfew for all Lebanese youths over the weekend."

The muslim "youth" are a plausibility deniable weapon of the Jihad.


5 posted on 12/14/2005 10:49:38 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Dundee
re: riots spread from race )))

Gee, what if it was never about race? What if it's about cult and culture?

6 posted on 12/14/2005 10:49:55 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Dundee
Tongans!! The last people you want to make enemies of are Tongans. Dumb mistake on the part of the Muslims.

Why is that, are the Tongans noted for ferocity?

7 posted on 12/14/2005 10:50:36 AM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: Dundee
"We have to be on guard for this, and these hooligans and criminals will not destroy the fabric of our society," he said.

Yes you do! Yes they will!

Amjad Mehboob, head of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, said he believed the violence had been committed by an extremist fringe of the Muslim community. "I wish we knew who they were. I wish we could engage with them so we can find out what their beliefs are, so we can deal with them," he said.

Of course you do Mr. Mehboob!

Their beliefs? Islam of course!

And yes, chruches can be rebuilt, except once Islam takes over. Then there is no provision for it. Funny how that works, eh.

8 posted on 12/14/2005 10:50:57 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Dundee

Why Tongan? What does that imply. Are they less likely to just "take it?"


9 posted on 12/14/2005 10:51:02 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Dundee

Remember to only refer to the muslims as "youths" or "impoverished youths" etc.


10 posted on 12/14/2005 10:51:43 AM PST by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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There appear to be quite a few "radical" Islamists worldwide these days. We're not talking the casual street gang here.

Time for the world to pull its head out of the sand perhaps?


11 posted on 12/14/2005 10:52:03 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Dundee

Does anyone know of a FR equivalent in Australia?

I like to do a little lurking just to see what the debate is like over there now.


12 posted on 12/14/2005 10:52:24 AM PST by Sax
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To: Dundee

Stay safe. May God be with you.


13 posted on 12/14/2005 10:52:25 AM PST by MarMema (http://www.curenikolette.org/)
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To: Dundee

Better get your supplies in order, hunker down and lay low with the family, lock and load for protection, and have escape routes planned in case it gets out of hand. May the good Lord protect you and yours.


14 posted on 12/14/2005 10:52:49 AM PST by OB1kNOb (I'm gonna boogie oogie woogie til I just can't boogie no more..............)
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To: Dundee

My sister lives in a suburb of Sydney so I'm kind of interested in this (I've emailed but haven't heard back yet).

Two questions:  What set these riots off?  Any particular incident?

Here in Philadelphia the vast majority of Lebanese are Christians (Maronite) and I had come to believe that was the case with most Lebanese ex-Pats.  What is the breakdown (roughly) in the Sydney area?

 

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15 posted on 12/14/2005 10:53:40 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Dundee
...carol-singers were spat on and church buildings peppered with gunfire.

Good thing law-abiding Australian citizens can't carry guns--they might have had to defend themselves and their families. Instead they get to become statistics.

16 posted on 12/14/2005 10:53:51 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Dundee

What are Skips?


17 posted on 12/14/2005 10:54:37 AM PST by Steve0113 (Stay to the far right to get by.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
What set these riots off?

Basically, a group of Lebanese Muslims descended on a beach and beat up two lifeguards and kicked the locals out, saying "it was their territory, now".

The next day, about 5000 locals returned to take be beach back.

Some yahoos beat up some non combatant ME's and the Muzzies started rioting all over the city.

18 posted on 12/14/2005 10:58:49 AM PST by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: John Jorsett

Tongans tend to be very big and very good at punching people into last week if you p*ss them off enough. They are also very religious so burning down one of their churches is like urinating on the Alamo to Texans.


19 posted on 12/14/2005 10:59:54 AM PST by Dundee (They gave up all their tomorrows for our today’s.)
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To: Sax
No Free Republic board per se, but I do know of quite a few "conservative" (in the American sense) weblogs that have been keeping track of things.

A Western Heart - this is an Anglosphere blog with contributions from writers in the US and UK
Dissecting Leftism
Tim Blair - the most well known Aussie blog - can learn much from commenters
Silent Running

20 posted on 12/14/2005 11:00:13 AM PST by Alkhin (He thinks I need keeping in order - Peregrin Took, FOTR)
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