Posted on 12/14/2005 7:54:20 PM PST by Stoat
Sure.
Your a methodist twelve stepper.
"What is this? Angry Seinfeld cast members? Are they angry with the stoat or are they angry with Canada?"
LOL, I forgot about that last episode. Seinfeld did a great story line on the "gang's" apathy. It was a biting commentary on what modern society in many places has devolved into. In the last episode they are all sentenced to jail. Perfect analogy. Unfortunately, in the real world, the bystanders drink their lattes and drive home to their warm beds.
In Toronto some years ago when I was up there, there was a ratty-looking guy aggressively panhandling the line of people standing outside the Pantages theater, and no authority figure chased him. I found it intimidating.
Thank you, and Merry Christmas to you too!
You are indeed on FR.
But you seem to be pretty bitter IMHO.
Hey....tooks is dead....lighten up.
The guy might just be one of those irresponsible or down on his luck bums but likely he wasn't a turd like tookie and he likely was a human being in need of assistance unlike tooks.
He may end up making something (productive) of his life....you never know.
You are absolutely right. Unless you train yourself not to react by groupthink, you will. I used to work in the Navy operating nuclear reactors. This is an environment where there is a strong sense of authority (chain of command), the views of your peers are highly respected (nuclear trained personnel), and the responsibility for the safety of a nuclear reactor is shared across the entire department. Not surprisingly, the Navy is aware of these characteristics and trains personnel very strongly on personal responsibility, how to refuse unlawful orders, and how to ask questions (and are trained that the only time that you shouldn't question an order is in a tactical situation). If the Navy didn't do this the probability of a nuclear accident would skyrocket. I have been in several situations where I've had to correct superiors and subordinates on problems. Without proper training it is very difficult to be in a room telling senior officers that they are wrong while your peers remain quiet.
There are several psychological experiments that show that diffusion of authority exists with the most famous one being the Milgram experiment. I find it easier to react in a diffusion of responsibility situation when I realize that other people in a group are reacting exactly the way I would expect them to react. I also look out for people to don't react normally because they are the type of people you could trust with your life.
"NOTHING justifies leaving someone burning in the gutter."
That's why I made my comment about "another reason to boycott Starbucks."
It sounds like this so called nurse might have set this man on fire in order to look like a hero. She seems to go into the Starbucks a number of times to announce what she's doing.
First of all, how can the socialist utopias like Canada and Frisco have homeless, and second of all....oh forget it, who cares what's second.
I smell a TROLL
See post #91...holds good for you too.
"It sounds like this so called nurse might have set this man on fire in order to look like a hero. She seems to go into the Starbucks a number of times to announce what she's doing."
I didn't read it that way. It was 10:30 at night; perhaps the Starbucks was the only thing open.
It was the reaction of the employees and customers of the Starbucks that pulled my chain, what with the lady sitting right in the smoke and ignoring it, and the waitress not wanting to call 911.
If those are the kind of people who work and drink at Starbucks, they can do it without me.
You're the scum, pal
Yep. "Look at me" written all over it.
That was...heartwarming.
The story just doesn't seem real. One lady is sitting outside in the dead of winter talking on her cell phone? People just don't ignore the dead man, they actually go out of their way to denounce him? There doesn't appear to be any other witnesses to the selfish cutomers- not even Starbucks' employees?
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