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Bar Sign Evokes Memories Of 'Whites Only,' Panel Rules
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | 16 December 2005 | James Nash

Posted on 12/16/2005 5:00:15 PM PST by buccaneer81

Edited on 12/16/2005 5:33:46 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

ERIC ALBRECHT | DISPATCH Tom Ullum, who owns the Pleasure Inn in Mason, told the Civil Rights Commission that he doesn’t discriminate against anyone.

Bar owner Tom Ullum said the sign in front of his Mason tavern — "For service speak English" — was intended to support English as the country’s official tongue, not to chase off foreign-born customers.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: bogus; borderslanguage; civilrights; crapola; culture; english; language; multiculturalism; norights; spanish; speakenglishorstarve
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No "civil rights" commission is ever going to rule in favor of a real American doing what he wants in his own business. He broke no laws. But he was very un-PC. That's a crime in America today.
1 posted on 12/16/2005 5:00:17 PM PST by buccaneer81
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To: buccaneer81

The sign indicates that the shop owner only speaks English, and you'll have to order in that language for him to understand you. Stupid civil rights witch-hunters.


2 posted on 12/16/2005 5:02:07 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: buccaneer81

We hear all languages, but only understand english.


3 posted on 12/16/2005 5:02:13 PM PST by billhilly
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To: buccaneer81

¡Qué lastima!


4 posted on 12/16/2005 5:05:10 PM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: buccaneer81

Let me say again, I am SO glad to be in the latter years of my life and not the early years. I would not want to be growing up in the America of today. I know things weren't as good as I recall them, but they sure weren't as screwy as they are today. Next businesses will be required to have a translator on site to help those who don't speak English.


5 posted on 12/16/2005 5:05:41 PM PST by jwpjr
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To: buccaneer81

PC gone wild


6 posted on 12/16/2005 5:05:45 PM PST by indcons
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To: buccaneer81
Ohio law makes it illegal to discriminate in public accommodations, such as taverns, on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, age, disability, national origin or ancestry.

Ok, would somebody please explain to me which of those categories the tavern owner supposedly violated.

7 posted on 12/16/2005 5:05:45 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: Gordongekko909
Kinda like the Simpson's episode when they are in Australia a Marge ordered water and the bar keep kept saying BEER??..

When I was in Italy I had to learn to order things in Italian or point.

I heard today that over 11 million residents of the US can't read and write English.
8 posted on 12/16/2005 5:06:24 PM PST by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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To: buccaneer81

This is just ridiculous, paging George Orwell.


9 posted on 12/16/2005 5:07:26 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: buccaneer81

But he was very un-PC. That's a crime in America today.
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The bar sign should read...

"No illegals, no illiterates, no liberals, no communists, and f-ing Democrats" --- AMERICANS ONLY!!


10 posted on 12/16/2005 5:09:07 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: buccaneer81

He wasn't "un-PC", perhaps he and and his staff just don't speak every *ucking language and dialect.

Hell.

If they don't like it, there's other place to go that do speak their damn language.

I've had it with this whiney ass crap from race baiting bastards that have nothing to do but keep stirring the pot.

Leave this small business owner alone, the market will decide. This is America, I think.

flame away, who cares. I've a robusto, an adult beverage and FR.


11 posted on 12/16/2005 5:10:54 PM PST by Hilltop
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To: jwpjr
Next businesses will be required to have a translator on site to help those who don't speak English.

Bite your tongue! Your statement may sound sarcastice, but boy does it ring too close for comfort to truth considering the path the ACLY is on right now...
12 posted on 12/16/2005 5:11:34 PM PST by eeevil conservative (courage is living in tyranny and speaking for freedom/not living in freedom and speaking for tyranny)
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To: EagleUSA

no f-ing Democrats? There goes the floor show.


13 posted on 12/16/2005 5:13:07 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: All

Only in liberal American can this happen:
- Use your own hard earned money to start a PRIVATE, NON-GOV FUNDED BUSINESS, make a personal statement and be forced to

"attend diversity-sensitivity classes"
"run ads with messages of tolerance in local newspapers"

Ok then, play their game. When they come in speaking something besides english, ignore them and walk away. You DO have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

Man this really pulls my trigger! The vein is throbbing on the side of my temple!


14 posted on 12/16/2005 5:13:51 PM PST by FunkyZero
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To: buccaneer81
Ohio law makes it illegal to discriminate in public accommodations, such as taverns, on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, age, disability, national origin or ancestry.

If one is to believe the reporter, Ohio law does not prohibit discrimination on the basis of language.

The comparison to "Whites Only" signs is ridiculous. Millions of persons—of every race, color, religion, sex, age, disability, national origin or ancestry—speak English. The requirement that customers of this bar make their wishes known in a tongue intelligible to the owner is an entirely reasonable one.

15 posted on 12/16/2005 5:14:13 PM PST by Logophile
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To: buccaneer81

What's your pleasure?

16 posted on 12/16/2005 5:15:30 PM PST by lindor
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To: buccaneer81

Speaking in a particular language is a *behavior*, not a classification. He's merely demanding a particular behavior of his customers, much like requiring that they wear shoes and shirts, wear pants, pay in US dollars, don't spit on the floor, don't wear gang attire, etc.


17 posted on 12/16/2005 5:16:05 PM PST by DancesWithBolsheviks (/sarc tag currently in the shop.)
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To: buccaneer81

I was at McDonalds one day and they should've had a sign out front telling me, "For service speak Tagalog." It would've saved me time, and I could've just gone to Burger King.


18 posted on 12/16/2005 5:16:35 PM PST by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: buccaneer81
All he has to do is put up a second sign saying "For Service Speak English" in Spanish.

19 posted on 12/16/2005 5:16:56 PM PST by I see my hands (Until this civil war heats up.. have a nice day.)
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To: buccaneer81

boy that's a seriously biased article. do you think you might find a way to quote at least one person who agrees with the bar owner? he sounds like the ONLY person who doesn't have a problem with the sign. i'd tell this stupid commission to stick it.


20 posted on 12/16/2005 5:17:22 PM PST by GodfearingTexan
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To: eeevil conservative

And websites like FR will be required to have versions published in all languages...


21 posted on 12/16/2005 5:17:48 PM PST by DancesWithBolsheviks (/sarc tag currently in the shop.)
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To: FunkyZero
You DO have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

I used to think that.

But Nope.

Dang lawsuits.

22 posted on 12/16/2005 5:46:51 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: conservativehusker
When I was in Italy I had to learn to order things in Italian or point.

When I was a visiting professor in Turkey, every day I'd go through the cafeteria line and point to what I wanted (everything was behind glass and a server put it in a dish and handed it to you). Towards the end of the semester I was going through the line talking to an English-speaking colleague. One of the servers said (in Turkish) that it was the first time all semester he'd heard my voice. My collegue translated the remark. I replied that I didn't know the Turkish names for the various food items, so I had to point.

23 posted on 12/16/2005 5:59:08 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: lindor


We have this place in Boise.
24 posted on 12/16/2005 6:19:58 PM PST by MarkeyD (Cowards cut and run. Marines finish the job. I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: jwpjr
I am SO glad to be in the latter years of my life and not the early years. I would not want to be growing up in the America of today.

Coward. I'm sorry, but I've heard this out of some otherwise nice older folks and it disgusts me.

Who the hell was running the country from the time you were growing up until your latter years?

HINT: YOU PEOPLE WERE

I know the "greatest generation" did good things, and that today's younger generation has its work to do, but this selfish "I'm on may way out so eff it" attitude is really low.

25 posted on 12/16/2005 6:36:36 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: buccaneer81

In Columbus the sign should have read: "For service speak 'crack'".


26 posted on 12/16/2005 6:47:30 PM PST by manwiththehands ("Have a RamaHanuKwanzMas" - Glenn Beck (And Merry Christmas!) (... and "Happy Holidays!"))
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To: buccaneer81

I see NO problem here. The owner doesn't speak Spanish otherwise he would have put a "Se Habla Espanol" sign at the friggin' window. Si o no? Yes or no?

It is I, Kenservatized. I am an island hopper and I am proud to be a conservative American. I am an Army brat so I have lived all over the US and overseas. I have no accent anymore. I speak English. I am with y'all. Yes - I've been to the South, too.

ACLU? Screw 'em!

PC police? Screw 'em!

The SOB who has a problem with that damn sign? SCREW 'EM!


28 posted on 12/16/2005 7:06:13 PM PST by Kenservatized
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To: GodfearingTexan; Admin Moderator
Here is a much better article and doesn't require a subscription.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051216/NEWS01/512160412/1056

Admin Moderator, would it be possible to switch out the articles and the link since the Cincinnati Enquirer one doesn't require a subscription?
29 posted on 12/16/2005 7:16:55 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: buccaneer81

Ironically, if you check out their members list on their website, you'll be shocked (shocked!) to discover that the diversity-worshipping Ohio Civil Rights Commission couldn't find a single Caucasian to serve on its panel.

http://crc.ohio.gov/commission_members.htm


30 posted on 12/16/2005 8:17:14 PM PST by Steady Earl
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To: buccaneer81

Sounds like an interesting articel, but I'm not paying $4.95 to read it.


31 posted on 12/16/2005 8:21:47 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: I see my hands
No hablo español aqui.


32 posted on 12/16/2005 8:41:32 PM PST by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: sam_paine

Just my opinion. Sorry it upsets you so to hear things that you don't agree with, but that's how I feel. Calling me names won't change my mind and won't change the world we live in. I admit we screwed the world up, you'll get no argument from me on that. I know you and your generation are much smarter and hard working than my generation and I apologize for leaving you such a world. We did the best we could, but sometimes things don't work out like we planned.


33 posted on 12/16/2005 10:19:52 PM PST by jwpjr
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I am SO glad to be in the latter years of my life and not the early years. I would not want to be growing up in the America of today.

Where is your sense of adventure and independence? These are GREAT times to be alive. Very exciting, quick communications, yet idiots abound! God is in charge of the outcome, meanwhile we get front-row seats.

34 posted on 12/16/2005 10:27:32 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: buccaneer81

We had a bar here that had a sign that said "No Colors".

Of course the local "everything pisses me off crowd" complained loudly about how this wasn't the sixtes, Rosa Parks, yada, yada.

So the local rag sent in a reporter to expose the racists and right the wrongs of the South.

The reporter found that the sign was aimed at gang members - No Colors.


35 posted on 12/16/2005 10:29:58 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: buccaneer81

The bar owner said he put up a sign during football season that says "Michigan sucks".

The guy just likes signs.


36 posted on 12/17/2005 4:19:07 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: jwpjr

Thanks for the sentiment. A short sentence gives little chance to communicate all your thoughts. Saying that you're sorry that this generation has a big mess to start from is nicer than saying you're glad you are done with it.

It's not a good attitude for us to follow, and if you'll forgive me, it's not a healthy attitude for any person at any age.

Besides, I've inherited salt-and-pepper shakers with more reverence than some people are bequeathing America to the next generation! Is America the greatest gift, or is it trash to be rid of?

I wish you a Merry Christmas, and an improved New Year.


37 posted on 12/17/2005 7:05:48 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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"No "civil rights" commission is ever going to rule in favor of a real American doing what he wants in his own business. He broke no laws. But he was very un-PC. That's a crime in America today."

Your post is sarcasm, right? The rights of real Americans to do what they want in their own businesses, and homes for that matter, is being compromised with ever-increasing frequency. PC, which was nothing more than a joke when it first arrived on the scene, is fast becoming the law of the land. It is absolutely disgusting that a handful of godless, socialist tyrants are dictating law and public policy to the former land of the free and that the citizens of the former home of the brave haven't got the guts to eradicate them and to ignore their demands of servitude.

38 posted on 12/17/2005 8:12:20 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: buccaneer81

I hope he has a strong group of supporters in the community. I think his sign is dead on. I want very much to put a bumper sticker on my car that reads "Speak English or Go Home."


39 posted on 12/17/2005 8:14:18 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: KellyAdmirer
"Ok, would somebody please explain to me which of those categories the tavern owner supposedly violated."

Apparently there is one that says "thou shalt not annoy illegals."

40 posted on 12/17/2005 8:16:03 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: bigsigh
"no f-ing Democrats? There goes the floor show."

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41 posted on 12/17/2005 8:18:36 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: sweetliberty

This bar is in a far northern suburb of Cincinnati. The group that complained is from the hood. There is already one bar owner in another Cincy suburb with the same sign up and more to come.


42 posted on 12/17/2005 8:23:05 AM PST by HBAR223
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To: buccaneer81
Forget the Dispatch; who wants to pay $4.95 just to read this sort of stuff, got to the Cincinnati Enquirer instead.
43 posted on 12/17/2005 8:25:57 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Once again I get busted for not reading all the wasy through, good work.


44 posted on 12/17/2005 8:27:20 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: Old Professer

As easy as it was to mis-type wasy, wasy was not meant to be wasy it was way, sorry.


46 posted on 12/17/2005 8:30:02 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: Scottyboy568

Yeah, and I'm double-jointed too, but I don't go around kicking cripple's crutches out from under them.


47 posted on 12/17/2005 8:31:30 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: Steady Earl

I went to their website. You're right. Not one 'white person' on the commission.

And - their website is only in English and Spanish.

That is totally UNFAIR to people who speak French, German, Portuguese, Japanese and many other languages. Why doesn't the commission think of *their* feelings?? They have rights too.


48 posted on 12/17/2005 8:50:58 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: HBAR223
"There is already one bar owner in another Cincy suburb with the same sign up and more to come."

Glad to hear it.

49 posted on 12/17/2005 11:39:51 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: buccaneer81

The Ohio PC Commission never sent anyone undercover to the bar to determine if they actually refused service to anyone. They also admitted that not a single person has stepped forward to claim they were denied service at the bar.

Not a single person has been discriminated against. How can these morons cite someone for discrimination when nobody is being discriminated against?


50 posted on 12/17/2005 3:36:15 PM PST by conservative_2001 (Defeat Jean Schmidt and Paul Hackett in 2006!)
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