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Australia: Chilling call to arms via SMS (MORE calls for Arabs to unite in a war against "rednecks")
The Daily Telegraph (Australia) ^ | December 19, 2005

Posted on 12/18/2005 2:35:48 PM PST by Stoat

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To: alanthemanc
"Muslim population of Britain is 2.7% according to the official census. Germany has a muslim population of 3.7%, Netherlands 5.5%. France has a Muslim population of no more than 10%."

You're getting there. I can't help the CIA "factbook", but given the CIA's work on Iraq, I wouldn't use it as my sole source. Thus, the MSM has been very consistent as to stating that there are 20M Muslims in Europe, and 10% of France is Muslim (which you do allow for). The 20M number is much higher than the 3% number that you used earlier.

I'll try to dig up my numbers on Sweden, but it's really bad, and those idiots invited virtually all of them in the last 2 decades and now send white Swedes to jail if they complain (they call it a "hate crime").

The 10% number (in France) is still too low for them to start an armed insurrection, but it is zooming upward, with something like 35% of the births in France now belonging to Muslim parents (a combination of the lack of white children and the Muslim fertility rate, which is now being used as a weapon against you guys).

The 10 year deadline that I gave you guys earlier refers to the amount of time you have before these guys will be able to fight back (at least for France). During this time, they are not strong enough to take and hold territory against a determined government. Wait more than 10 years, and you'll have a Bosnia on your hands, because even though you will still be much more numerous, they are much younger, and they are itching for a real fight.
201 posted on 12/19/2005 4:13:47 PM PST by MediaAnalyst
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To: MediaAnalyst
Wait more than 10 years, and you'll have a Bosnia on your hands, because even though you will still be much more numerous, they are much younger, and they are itching for a real fight.

You're absolutely right of course, and initially I was perplexed as to why anyone would take issue with your posts which in my view and I would daresay the view of most are nicely-articulated obvious and well-established truths, at least to anyone who reads anything outside of a hard-Left press for their news.  But then I remembered that this is the way things have always been:

Prior to WW2, the Left screeched and hollered about how Hitler was our friend and that there were no Nazis in America.  When the American Nazi Party became too big for even the Left to ignore, they tried to convince us that they were the true American Patriots and they were absolutely no threat to us.  The sane people in America argued to the contrary and history has shown that they, not the Left, were correct.

Most of us remember the Vietnam era all too well, where the Commies were cast as Freedom Fighters by the Left and how they were only benevolent brethren to us all and how we should join them, not fight them. They eventually got their way in Congress (Ted Kennedy a prime mover on this issue) and the result was the slaughter of millions in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos when we pulled out.  Once again the sane people in America argued against the pullout and warned of the bloodbath and Communist hellhole that would follow, and of course they were again proven to be correct.

Throughout the Cold War era the Left argued that there were no Commies in America and certainly not in American government, but if they were it wasn't any of our business and they were our friends anyway....they were the true Patriots and of course meant us no harm.  Once again, the Left is proven wrong but will still never admit it, just like any of their other failures.

Same template for South America and anywhere else the Left had a dog in a fight.....they first tell us that the problem doesn't exist and is a product of our racist imaginations, and then when it becomes too big for even them to ignore they claim that the opposition are all our friends and are freedom fighters anyway and we need to understand and embrace them, and that any thought that they could possibly mean us any harm is all a product of our evil, anglo-racist stereotyping and we are just such awful people to even think such a thing and we should be ashamed.

Such is the history of the 20th Century and it appears that they haven't felt the need to get a new template because the old one has worked so darned well for them.

Thank you for your posts and Merry Christmas to you and yours.

 

 

202 posted on 12/19/2005 6:57:44 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
"Thank you for your posts and Merry Christmas to you and yours."

Thanks, and same to you. I wish others would explore what's really going on in Europe (and the world for that matter), as opposed to what the MSM spoon-feeds them. If they did, they'd see that East Asians (i.e., Chinese and others) can settle just about anywhere they want in the world (with the exception of Muslim countries, of course), and do great. You never see a Chinese uprising, riots, etc. even when they were virtual slaves both in the US and elsewhere. But if one believes the MSM, every country that Muslims move to, bar none, is full of absolute skin-head racists, but they're only racist against the Muslims, East Asians are treated just fine. Yeppp, that's it, just 25 or so countries in a row that Muslims have moved to, and been treated shabbily, and not a single country in the world where Chinese have been treated badly (or, of course, they would have rioted).

The Europeans have to get off of their guilt trip from World War 2. Virtually all Americans forgive them now. They have more than atoned. They (the guilty ones, that is) stepped up to their crimes, and helped win the Cold War. It is suicidal to their societies to think that they are inherently evil people and thus they have to import millions of jihadists in some vain attempt to right their previous wrongs. It is suicidal to them and it will draw us (the US) back into warfare over there.
203 posted on 12/19/2005 7:20:20 PM PST by MediaAnalyst
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To: MediaAnalyst

First, I like your homepage. Second, I really didn't think that the AM would kick alantheman off, just maybe hold an attitude adjustment session with him. We don't usually take this kind of crap from newbies. I am also very concerned with my estimated concept of the future of Europe, and I feel that they should be thinking about repositioning their historical treasures, I.E. The Louvre, and any of their government documents, etc. I believe that France is in a race with Spain, as to which is first to become a mooslim dominated country, with sharia law and the whole bit. (GO, FRANCE!)


204 posted on 12/19/2005 9:12:25 PM PST by de Buillion (King Kong died for your sins!)
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To: MediaAnalyst
Agreed completely of course and superbly stated.

Re the issue of EuroGuilt, I found it to be thick in the air in Germany, nearly to the point of a psychosis that pervades numerous aspects of daily life and public policy.  Sad thing is that this guilt is unnecessary as there was a significant resistance to Nazism in Germany until it was crushed by the military after Hitler gained control.  The public at large had been disarmed and so had no recourse, as dissenters and their entire families were regularly shot in the village square as a means of maintaining 'order'.

This story has largely remained untold in the mainstream for a variety of reasons and is most likely appropriate for a different thread anyway.

However, regarding guilt complexes and ideology, I ran across this item today which I thought might be interesting and relevant:

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Dr. Helen Liberalism as Socially Motivated Cognition

Liberalism as Socially Motivated Cognition

 
I have mentioned a research study by the APA entitled, Political Conservatism as Socially Motivated Cognition, that appeared biased against conservatives. The study pointed out that there had been little research done on the traits of liberals--but they must have overlooked this article in Clio Psych's Journal from 2003. Here is an excerpt from the article that mentioned research on liberals from 1982--I guess the writers of the APA's biased article did not see fit to go back that far.

 
Research on the psychology of radical activists helps us to understand this mismatch between Chomsky's ideas and his personal style. In the 1970s, Stanley Rothman and Robert Lichter administered Thematic Apperception Tests to a large sample of "new left" radicals (Roots of Radicalism, 1982). They found that activists were characterized by weakened self-esteem, injured narcissism and paranoid tendencies. They were preoccupied with power and attracted to radical ideologies that offered clear and unambiguous answers to their questions. All of these traits can be found in the work of Chomsky and other anti-imperialist intellectuals.


And if you ever wondered why some liberals seem wishy-washy at times--this paragraph from the same article might explain things:

 
The unwillingness to offer alternatives reveals a lack of self-confidence and self-esteem. If they offered their own policy ideas they would be vulnerable to criticism. They would run the risk that their ideas would fail, or would not seem persuasive to others. This is especially difficult for anti-capitalists after the fall of the Soviet Union. It has also been difficult in the war against terrorism because Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden are such unsympathetic figures. Psychologically, it is easier to blame America for not finding a solution than it is to put one's own ideas on the line.

205 posted on 12/19/2005 9:54:23 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: de Buillion; Stoat
Thanks guys, very much. I dread seeing the same pictures that I saw in Bosnia, happening soon in France, and then other countries in short order. What I remember seeing was a country that was fully developed, fully westernized, yet having the type of war you'd expect to be seeing in the jungles of Southeast Asia. You'd see a house broken open by a bombing attack, and inside was really nice furniture, a car in the garage, an a washer/dryer set.

These people were fully developed, fully western, and they thought that a multicultural existence with Islam was possible (and no, I'm not a Serb). Heck, Sarajevo was an Olympic city. It was not Hue or Da Nang. These people had turned the corner economically after the end of the Cold War and were as much of a model city for tolerance as could ever be expected.

Yet the Muslims were there large numbers, the mosques were there the whole time, firing up the followers (with a lot of help, no doubt, from the Saudis). And when the time came, nothing in the recent past mattered - it was time for Jihad. Sure, the Serbs had their share of savages, but once again peaceful coexistence with Islam was proven to be impossible - and no one could make the case, this time, that economic conditions had anything to do with it.

Even though the MSM won't tell them, there is nothing that that the white Europeans can do to erase the abject hatred their "new arrivals" have for them. Sure they can side with Saddam, the Palestinians, and a nuclear Iran, but the war that they will soon be fighting (or running away from), will be based exclusively on the Crusades. It will be payback time for events many hundreds of years old, and unless Europe can somehow erase those memories, warfare is certain.

The only real question left is whether white Europe even thinks that their continent and their history are worth fighting for. So far it doesn't look good.

P.S., Stoat - that wouldn't be the same APA that thinks pedophilia is normal and should not be classified as a mental disorder? If so, they need to clear up their kiddy porn problem before stepping into the world of political commentary.
206 posted on 12/20/2005 12:26:06 AM PST by MediaAnalyst
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To: 76834
I agree with your definition. I've always imagined I fit in that category as well. Even though I possess several degrees and am a retired teacher, I'm still an Okie and wear my cowboy boots proudly. It was a conscious choice of a sort of common sense over the "libby dibby dumb ass academic" crowd.
207 posted on 12/20/2005 12:59:23 AM PST by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: alanthemanc
You may also want to take a look at this article...

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/news/051219a.asp

While not from the MSM, this article does accurately show the back-end of your future once Islam has established itself. Your decline will be swift, as your future masters will have no need for you, and would really rather not have you around - and they will "encourage" as much. You will not have a choice in this matter.

You guys really should take advantage of the reality that is (still) readily available via the Alternative Media, before your governments figure it out and closes it off (much like China does now), under the guise of inspiring hatred.
208 posted on 12/20/2005 1:04:36 AM PST by MediaAnalyst
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To: cripplecreek
Ive been willing to accept the racist title for a while now. It's not true but I suspect that my accusers know that.

What's going on in Sydney may be many things but it's not racist.

The Lebanese, like the European Australians are all Caucasians.
209 posted on 12/20/2005 1:05:05 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: EverOnward
It (redneck) is a pejorative intended to insult white people.

Shows the deep wisdom and sense of humor of Rednecks. They turned a negative into a positive.

Now if a few other racial and ethnic groups would do the same thing, the world would be a better place
210 posted on 12/20/2005 1:11:09 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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To: Stoat

,,, throw the lions of Lebanon to the Great Whites off Botany Bay.

211 posted on 12/20/2005 1:16:05 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: MediaAnalyst

So do you agree that my statistics are correct. As for the CIA factbook it's perfectly reliable as it gets its stats form official sources. Take the figure of 2.7% for Britain. That comes straight from the official census of England and Wales 2001. It doesn't get any more official than that. Go to nationalstatistics.gov.uk.

I'd be interested to know where you got the figure of 6% as muslim population for Britain? Also what are your sources for your figures for Germany and the Netherlands?

Assuming the 20 million figure is correct (I'd still like a source), out of an EU poplulation of 456 million that equates to 4.3%, hardly enough to create an Islamic Empire. The high birth rate trend amongst Muslims relates to France and France alone, so cannot be applied to the rest of Europe.

Your argument is based solely on conjecture, not on the reality of the situation here in Europe. Have you ever been to Europe by the way?


212 posted on 12/20/2005 4:03:01 AM PST by alanthemanc
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To: MediaAnalyst

That article is about Palestine, a country at the heart of the Islamic World, and therefore bears no comparison with Europe.

You can predict the future can you?


213 posted on 12/20/2005 4:12:00 AM PST by alanthemanc
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To: AmericanArchConservative

exactly. We shouldnt just sit around letting the muslims do whatever they want.

Let's not lose the initiative! The people of the West must realize the danger posed by the Muslims and act before its too late, as you said.

Thanks for the ping, by the way.


214 posted on 12/20/2005 2:08:10 PM PST by Hill of Tara
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To: alanthemanc
And on this nice evening in America, I shall wind up my posts on this thread.

As I have told you, and regardless of what your corrupted MSM tells you, you have 10 years (until 2015, roughly the time when Muslims will make up the majority of live births in France) in which to step up to the your Muslim problem, and still be able to avoid major bloodshed. For the next 10 years (until 2025) you can continue to ignore the problem and enjoy life (as they grow ever stronger), but if you do decide to take action, you will initiate a major war, with huge bloodshed. After roughly 2025, it won’t matter, they will bring their war to you, and you will have no choice but to fight or to run, or to call on big Daddy again.

Over here, we will be watching our European children once again make a mess in their playground, knowing full well that we will be expected to come in and clean it up, for the 4th time in roughly 100 years (the third time being when you chose the wrong side in the Yugoslavia civil wars). We will, again, come over and do your dirty work. We do it not because we love you, but because we need you and we cannot allow the alternative.

So I have one request from you when that day comes: Please cut out the “holier than thou” crap, and get off your pedestal. When we go there, we will be engaged in a savage war, much worse than World War 2. The things we do will be VERY ugly, but they will have to be done, in order to win, and in order to secure your freedom (again). So please don’t turn around and get on our case, as you have done countless times since World War 2, with the latest being your support of one of the most ruthless killers in our history (i.e., a Mr. Tookie Williams) – as if it’s any of your business. Let it go. We all will be much better if you do so.

So, enjoy your 10 to 20 year “holiday”. The real fights are still way out in the future, and for your kids, what the heck, let them fend for themselves.

Take care.
215 posted on 12/20/2005 6:49:54 PM PST by MediaAnalyst
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To: MediaAnalyst

Greetings from the Old World.

I found it quite amusing when you referred to 'our European children,' when of course you know that Americans are in fact the children of Europeans. Your people, who I admire greatly, particularly for your intervention in the second world war, are the descendants of Europeans who left the old continent in search of opportunities in a challenging new world.

Have you ever traced your ancestory to see where you came from?

For what America did in WW2 I am eternally grateful, you came to the rescue of your elder cousins and that shall not be forgotten.

As a point of history, American intervention was largely insignificant in WW1. By the time the US had arrived at the western front the momentum had already swung decisively in favour of the allies, and you were no way near the military power that you became a generation later.

Look at the casualty figures from the Great War.

Russia 9,150,000
British Empire 3,190,235
France 6,160,800
Italy 2,197,000
United States 323,018
Germany 7,142,558
Austria-Hungary 7,020,000

Also, when did I ever offer support to Tookie Williams? Please don't make sweeping generalisations.




216 posted on 12/21/2005 3:38:40 PM PST by alanthemanc
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