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To: flaglady47
Well then, you had better not post what you believe on a FR thread, as, funny that, this is a public forum where people respond to other people's opinions.

So let me get this straight: you think that because this is a free forum then you know better what I'm thinking than I do? As you said, this is a free forum. I can and will post my opinion any time I want, just like you. But don't presume to tell me what I'm thinking.

What happened to the humbleness of Christianity, or is it all attack those that don't measure up to your standards of Christian behavior.

So, I guess Christians disagreeing on and discussing a decision of the church, which affects all Christians, is an attack? While this discussion got heated, and frustation abounded, I defy you to prove that I downgraded anybody's Christianity. While I personally prefer to be in church on Sunday, and I reccomend it to everyone, some people are able to worship the Lord just as well without doing so. You will also note, that is if you actually read my posts, that I don't have a problem with individual Christians staying home this Sunday morning to celebrate Christmas with their families. Each must do as God leads. The churches closing isn't about the message it sends to Christians and it's not about being 'more' christian or 'less' christian (as if the concepts of more or less could apply to your salvation. You either have it or you don't); it's about the message it sends to the world. For better or for worse, rightly or wrongly, the world is going to view Christians at least partially in the light of what the churches do. That's why we have to continually hear from the world about how bad Christians are because of the crusades, the Inquisition, the Salem witch trials, etc. These are things the church did, and people don't forget. Clearly, this situation isn't nearly that severe, but it does leave the impression that Christmas presents and football matter more than God, whether that's true or not. In most Christians cases, I'm sure it isn't true, but there's an old saying: perception is more important than reality.

While there may be baptist churches, catholic churches, methodist churches, etc, these are all Christian churches. The Church (capital C) is defined as all the believers. So anything any church anywhere that calls itself christian does is the business of all Christians everywhere. Unfortunately, I just don't think that closing on Christmas Sunday sends a good message to the secular world.

And that's as clear as I can make it. If that constitutes an 'attack' in your book, then fine. It's perogative to believe that if you wish. I will say no more on the issue.
427 posted on 12/21/2005 7:06:42 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: JamesP81

"perception is more important than reality."

It's not my perception of reality, nor do I believe that "the world" is all following the issue of whether some Christian churches have a Sat nite service rather than a Sunday one and therefore all U.S. Christians are money hungry and behave badly by not going to church on Sunday morning. That's a rather grandiose position, to think that the whole world is looking at what some Christian churches do on Christmas in the U.S.

And, by the way, I don't care about what the world thinks. They hate us anyway, just for being U.S. citizens, much less being Christians. That's like saying Bush should do what the French and Germans and Russians want us to do, to please them so they won't hate us. The only ones bringing attention to this matter, however, aren't other countries, it's other U.S. Christians making a mountain out of a molehill. But, like you, this conversation needs to come to an end. On that we agree.


441 posted on 12/21/2005 12:31:49 PM PST by flaglady47
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