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Border Patrol fears conflict with Mexican military
WorldNetDaily ^ | December 19, 2005 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 12/19/2005 8:16:22 PM PST by Founding Father

Border Patrol agents stationed along the nation's southwestern frontier increasingly are fearful of encountering armed and potentially hostile military units from Mexico.

Also, agents say, officers are hamstrung in their response, citing concerns the U.S. government is often too deferential to Mexican authorities.

"It's like we're having a battle on the border that no one speaks of," one agent told the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin newspaper in Ontario, Calif.

"The Border Patrol lives in constant fear of pleasing the consulate general of Mexico," the agent continued. "It's one of the things that's most mystifying to line agents" because the U.S. is one of the most powerful countries in the world but appears to be more interested in accommodating Mexico City, the agent said.

Indeed, the confrontations have become so routine the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has issued written orders that agents carry with them regarding "what to do" if confronted by Mexican military units, many of which are in the employ of Mexico's powerful drug cartels.

According to the "Military Incursion" cards, "Mexican military are trained to escape, evade and counter-ambush if it will affect their escape." Therefore, the card says, Border Patrol agents should follow recommended procedures in case they encounter armed Mexican military units.

The paper said the cards also instruct agents to hide from Mexican military operating in their areas. Rather than engage in contact, agents are ordered to "Avoid it."

One Arizona agent described the units to the paper, saying they "are active Mexican military that have sold out to the cartels."

"We talk about cooperation with the Mexican government," the agent continued, "but most of them seem to be on the take. The [Bush] administration, the DHS, they are very hushed about this."

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., head of the House Immigration Reform Caucus, told WorldNetDaily in a 2002 interview he was concerned about a rising number of incursions occurring along the U.S. southwest border.

Noting that elements of the Mexican military were posing a threat to American agents and civilians along the border, he said, "We're no safer today than we were on Sept. 12," in reference to the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

Tancredo said he began making trips to the border because he became alarmed over increasing reports that border personnel were being shot at on a regular basis, as well as chased and targeted by "rogue elements" of the Mexican military. He said such units either were loyal to Mexican-based drug lords or operating outside the scope of their military mandate.

WND has reported that as early as November 2000, Mexican troops had fired on U.S. Border Patrol agents on American soil.

U.S. authorities also have known for some time that elements of Mexican military and law enforcement units have been corrupted by drug cartels.

"In actuality, law enforcement in Mexico is all too often part of the problem rather than part of the solution," Anthony Placido, the Drug Enforcement Administration's acting assistant administrator for intelligence, told a House panel earlier this year. "This is particularly true at the municipal and state levels of government."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; borderpatrol; california; illegalilligrants; immigrantlist; mexicantroops; mexico; newmexico
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It's time to bring in our Army.
1 posted on 12/19/2005 8:16:23 PM PST by Founding Father
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To: Founding Father

Not unless we put someone like Black Jack Pershing in charge of the "Expeditionary Force".

When are we going to stop pussy-footing around with the enemies - foreign AND domestic - of the USA?


2 posted on 12/19/2005 8:24:41 PM PST by 43north (Liberals are obsessed by the vulgarity of their lives & the obscenity of their behavior.)
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To: Founding Father
Yes sir, it is. Next time the Mexican MilitaryMafia fires on our Border Patrol, obliterate them.
3 posted on 12/19/2005 8:25:21 PM PST by planekT (<- http://www.wadejacoby.com/pedro/ ->)
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To: Founding Father
It's time to bring in our Army

Not until we elect a conservative US executive. Review my arguments on the same story on an earlier post.

4 posted on 12/19/2005 8:26:38 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Founding Father

1st Armored is redeploying from Germany to Ft. Bliss, TX. I wonder how far south they could go before running out of gas?


5 posted on 12/19/2005 8:29:01 PM PST by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: 43north

Napalm


6 posted on 12/19/2005 8:30:11 PM PST by Dawggie
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To: neodad

Argentina?


7 posted on 12/19/2005 8:31:12 PM PST by Uncle Vlad
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To: Founding Father
"One Arizona agent described the units to the paper, saying they "are active Mexican military that have sold out to the cartels.""

Can you say, "That's putting it mildly!!" and is less than an honest statement. Mexico is just ramping up its border crossing protection efforts, not so much to make it easy for the regulars to pass over, but to insure the drug pipeline doesn't get clogged. I suppose it was predictable.

Our silence and refusal to act to deter the drug flow is our formal consent and admission of complicity. What else could it possible be?

Are we supporting the pipeline at the cost of allowing terrorists to cross over as well?

8 posted on 12/19/2005 8:37:38 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: All
sounds to me like some "accidents" need to start occurring on a regular basis.
9 posted on 12/19/2005 8:38:36 PM PST by FunkyZero
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To: Founding Father
Who's to say that these "rogue" Mexican military aren't operating under direct orders?

Has anyone asked? I don't think anyone seriously believes Fox wouldn't have ordered this, and he is very much arrogant enough to admit it.

10 posted on 12/19/2005 8:54:02 PM PST by 4woodenboats (Luke 2: A Christmas story)
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To: Founding Father

if the military of a foriegn power(Mexico) shoots at U.S. government security personnel(Border Patrol),isn't that an act of war by international law? .........if so,doesn't that mean (again by international law)that a state of war has existed between Mexico and the U.S. since the first confirmed incedent of this kind?


11 posted on 12/19/2005 8:56:34 PM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: Founding Father

Mexico is NO friend of the U.S. - we have to get people to start realizing it. Mexico is promoting and assisting in illegals crossing our borders. It is a corrupt Govt from top to bottom.

Heck yes, we need to get our Military on the border and not tie their hands. They would make these guys step back a couple of paces in a real hurry!


12 posted on 12/19/2005 9:20:32 PM PST by ShuShu
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To: Founding Father

Screw ANWAR, drill Mexico!


13 posted on 12/19/2005 9:30:02 PM PST by SCHROLL (Liberalism isn't a political philosphy - it's a mental illness)
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To: Eastbound

Are we supporting the pipeline at the cost of allowing terrorists to cross over as well?"

No.We are supporting the pipeline to justify the multi-billion dollar war on drugs.


14 posted on 12/19/2005 9:36:33 PM PST by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: Founding Father

"It's time to bring in our Army."

Yes, it's time. Who will get this in motion? Can a state request protection from the Army?

I can't see Pres. Bush sending in the troops on his own (though he certainly needs to). It would take state pressure.


15 posted on 12/19/2005 9:59:08 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar
Anyone have details on what size and type of mex units are drifting north, is this one or two bribed mex soldiers or is this going on in small unit size?
16 posted on 12/19/2005 10:13:34 PM PST by vrwc0915
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To: Founding Father

BTTT


18 posted on 12/20/2005 12:38:36 AM PST by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: Founding Father

George Bush is courageous against Iraq and Al Qaeda yet sucks up to that 3rd cesspit to our south. Why I don't know, except that we want Mexican oil especially with how Hugo Chavez is behaving. And some of the our *One Worlders* want unification with Canada and Mexico. The corporate cheap labor lobby also wants us to accommodate Mexico in every way. Just look how the Mexican consulates behave on US soil.


19 posted on 12/20/2005 12:48:02 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: philetus

The drug pipeline and the alien pipeline are part of the cost of the oil pipeline.


20 posted on 12/20/2005 1:46:31 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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