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To: Pikamax
As a result, 42% fewer people were killed or seriously injured in those places than were killed or injured on the same stretches before the cameras were erected.

It seems that Freepers are interested in talking about the politics of a situation than the results in many cases that is important.

The biggest killer in Britain is speeding cars.

I don't know a single family mine included that hasn't had a family member killed by some selfish bstard speeding and sometimes drinking, what is even worse is you find out it wasn't the first time.

I am all for freedom and personal liberty but when we refuse to control ourself or modify are own behavior and it costs other peoples life.

Then can we really whine when the government steps in.

These cameras are being destroyed by individuals who believe they have the right to race down a road.

Before anyone flames me just imagine it is your family in the car that one of these idiots will crash into.

BTW my mate survived Iraq knocked of his push bike by some idiot late for his dinner.

48 posted on 12/20/2005 4:24:22 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: tonycavanagh
family member killed by some selfish bstard speeding and sometimes drinking

What is the fine for manslaughter?

Does the Crown still have "Life with Hard Labor?"

Do more laws and more controls make people upright
citizens?

The biggest killer in Britain is speeding cars.

Does the car do the killing or the person behind the wheel?

Finally to the point, a libertarian would prefer laws that
only act when a person crosses a moral line, not a law
that attempts to prevent a person from crossing that line.

86 posted on 12/20/2005 3:00:05 PM PST by higgmeister (In the shadow of the Big Chicken.)
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To: tonycavanagh
Good argument. Over here in some states, though, speed limits tend to be understood more as "general guidelines." When I go the legal limit cars going substantially faster pass me.

The fear here in the US isn't that the guy going over 100 mph is going to get caught, but that the person going 5 mph over the limit would get ticketed simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. A camera in the wrong place might also confuse drivers.

The authorities can adjust the cameras to penalize only the worst offenders, but they have a way of tightening the net to catch others when it's to their convenience, so people are wary of photographic enforcement.

In the states where people do tend to follow the speed limit, the cameras probably aren't needed.

124 posted on 12/23/2005 11:36:26 AM PST by x
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