U.S. steps up commercial spying

MSNBC ^ | 1998 | may 7

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

NEW YORK, May 7 — Newly unearthed documents, mostly letters from the CIA to Congress, lay out evidence of an intensive intelligence effort to help U.S. corporations win contracts overseas. The documents, all published during the Clinton administration, appear to confirm reports that America’s electronic eavesdropping apparatus was involved in commercial espionage.

[wyattearp]

Yeah, although I get the feeling that the republican, "party of smaller government, lower taxes, and less spending" charade is just about over. No one believes it anymore.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
(The Who, Don't Get Fooled Again).

[WhiteGuy]

(The Who, Don't Get Fooled Again).

Sadly, there are quite a few people here who wouldn't have known that line with out your footnote.

Tragic

[Sacajaweau]

Over and over....reading all the FISA info (readily available on the web), the underlying concern in all discussions is "protecting the people of the US".

Privacy interests of US citizens COLLABORATING WITH THE ENEMY, is secondary in time of war.....And according to everything I read, we are indeed at war with the terrorists.

IMHO....Attempting to make "SECURITY OF ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE USA" and "privacy" equalities is absurd.

"Security" MUST be No. 1. THE DEATHS OF MORE THAN 3000 PEOPLE WITHIN A FEW MINUTES TELLS ME THAT IS SO.

[Sacajaweau]

Portion of An Executive Order by William J. Clinton No. 12949 dated February 9, 1995:

Section 1. Pursuant to section (a)(1) of the FISA, the Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, WITHOUT A COURT ORDER, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that section. (Reno pops up again...and Jamie Gorelick??)

There's more to the order which raises my eyebrows.

[Alia]

You long for the good ole days, huh? Approximately what decade in oast American history are you longing a return to?

[Alia]

Trite use of the "saying".

President Bush is NO Clinton/Gore.

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

Thanks for the link.

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

The Gorelick wall.

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

Jamie Gorelick, Tear down this wall!

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

Any of those articles that are in your history....

Could I convince you to post some of them in this very discussion?

Please!?!?! :-D

[WhiteGuy]

You long for the good ole days, huh?

Well, the 70's were a pretty dynamic period of time for music.

My daughter barely knows that "The Who" ever existed.

That's tragic. What passes for "music" today is weak at best. IMHO

[wyattearp]

He's not a conservative. While he is not as liberal as clinton/gore, he is still a liberal totalitarian. He acts like he is a king, just like clinton did (minus the sexual peccadilloes).

[Alia]

he [President Bush] is still a liberal totalitarian. He acts like he is a king, just like clinton did (minus the sexual peccadilloes).

Must be nice and cozy in the straightjacket you wear.

Wyatt Earp was in NO way, no how like you.

[marblehead17]

ping

[marblehead17]

ping

[Thermalseeker]

They're just not Losers at this point, they're IRRELEVANT PATHETIC LOSERS!

Traitor is a better word......

[happinesswithoutpeace]

I will see what I can find, nothing in history but I will just do the same keyword searches when I have some free time.

[Atlantic Bridge]

Just some further info about ECHELON:

The Echelon-base in Bad Aibling on German soil was forced to close after it was understood as a instrument for spying against Germans and other Europeans in 2004. The EU launched a successful legal procedure against the US because of industrial espionage. The US army then installed something comparable in another location in Germany, Griesheim during 2005. This station is also to be closed in 2008 since there was broad reluctance and antipathy among the local German population against it.

A link to a related German newspaper article (in German): http://hp.kairaven.de/bilder/griesheim_ende.gif