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Clinton Claimed Authority to Order No-Warrant Searches (Does anyone remember that?)
National Review ^ | Byron York

Posted on 12/20/2005 7:55:51 AM PST by SueRae

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To: rhombus

Sorry. You lost me on that reply. Founders? Balance of power?
Worthy topic? Say what????

Doesn't seem to connected to our posts or did I miss your jump?

driveserve


81 posted on 12/20/2005 10:54:23 AM PST by driveserve
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To: Mo1
We've basically heard squat from Rockefeller

The administration had briefed congressional leaders about the NSA program and notified the judge in charge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the secret Washington court that handles national security issues.

Aides to National Intelligence Director John Negroponte and West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, declined to comment Thursday night.

SINCE HE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE LEAKERS!!!

82 posted on 12/20/2005 11:04:43 AM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

"However, this unfortunate episode is not about checks against unbridled power, or the public's right to know, or even about what should have been done to prevent 9/11. It is about political opportunism, and it may well come at the expense of common-sense accountability."

Not to mention the ability of this country to protect itself.

Political opportunism at the expense of National security, that is what it's come to. We're sinking to an all time low.


83 posted on 12/20/2005 11:08:34 AM PST by SueRae
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To: driveserve

Yeah I probably did a jump. The issue was the power of the Executive in time of war. The founders worried much about the eecutive's power but at the same time knew that a "Commander in Chief" was needed. Sorry about the topic jump.


84 posted on 12/20/2005 11:12:17 AM PST by rhombus
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To: SueRae

Sites like ThinkProgress are claiming to have debunked this.

Sigh. When will the left actually want the US to do well.


85 posted on 12/20/2005 12:03:37 PM PST by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

This is what dear, sweet Howie has sent to the party faithful recently:

Dear Friend,

This is not an easy letter to write, and I'm afraid it may be a hard one to believe.

By now you have probably heard the news that George Bush is using the National Security Agency to conduct surveillance on American citizens without the consent of any court. After initially refusing to confirm the story, the President has admitted to personally overseeing this domestic spying program for years and he says he intends to continue the program.

These actions explicitly violate a law designed to protect US citizens. But the administration says that other laws somehow allow for this unprecedented use of a foreign intelligence agency to spy on Americans right here in the United States. According to reports, political appointees in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel wrote still-classified legal opinions laying out the supposed justification for this program.
I have asked our General Counsel to draft a Freedom of Information Act request for the relevant legal opinions and memos written by that office. Since the program's existence is no longer a secret, these memos should be released -- Americans deserve to know exactly what authority this administration believes it has.

You can help pressure the administration to release these documents by signing on to our Freedom of Information Act request in the next 48 hours:
www.democrats.org/fo...

This extra-legal activity is even more disturbing because it is unnecessary -- the administration already has access to a secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. That court was created precisely to provide speedy, secure judicial review to the actions of our intelligence agencies.

To allow authorities act as quickly as possible, officials can even apply for a retroactive warrant days after the surveillance has already begun. Secret warrants have been approved over 19,000 times -- only five applications were rejected in nearly thirty years. The court, which regularly acts within hours, is hardly a roadblock, but it prevents abuse by providing the oversight required by our system of checks and balances.

This administration must demonstrate clearly what legal authority allows it to disregard criminal prohibitions on unilateral domestic spying. Sign on to the request now -- it will be delivered on Thursday:
www.democrats.org/fo...

Even after the press found out about these actions, the administration tried to cover up its existence. According to Newsweek, George Bush summoned the publisher and executive editor of the New York Times to the Oval Office to try to stop them from running the story of these illegal activities.

We have seen this kind of arrogance of power before.
Richard Nixon once said in an interview that, "if the president does it, it can't be illegal."
He found out that wasn't true. This administration may need a reminder.

Thank you.

Governor Howard Dean, M.D.


86 posted on 12/20/2005 6:16:52 PM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: Darnright
My God. Howard has gone right 'round the bend.

I have to keep telling myself that because if I thought he was that disingenuous and deceitful on purpose...I'd go right 'round the bend with him.

87 posted on 12/20/2005 7:01:13 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (This is my tagline. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: SueRae

bump


88 posted on 12/20/2005 9:31:21 PM PST by Roberts
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89 posted on 12/22/2005 5:01:20 AM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jsher/)
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To: Born Conservative

Ummmm, the MSM gives "all things Clinton" a pass...


90 posted on 12/22/2005 7:04:36 AM PST by GOPJ (War on Christmas? Celebrate the sweetness of forbidden customs -deck the halls with boughs of holly.)
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