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Are Journalists Underpaid?
Slate ^ | Dec. 20, 2005 | Daniel Gross

Posted on 12/20/2005 2:46:44 PM PST by baystaterebel

The New York real-estate boom is claiming a different kind of casualty, according to an article in Sunday's New York Times. Keying off a new report issued by the Center for an Urban Future, Jennifer Steinhauer noted that, thanks to high housing prices, many of the creative types who work in Manhattan-centered fields like advertising, publishing, and the arts are being priced out of the city. This, presumably, could damage New York in the long run, since it's an article of faith among nouveau-urban thinkers that the creative classes are a huge economic advantage, as the author Richard Florida has persuasively argued.

It could also damage journalism. The journalists who write these stories about people who can't afford to live in New York can't afford to live in New York, either. And that's a trend that may prove just as corrosive to establishment media as any disruptive technology.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
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To: baystaterebel
Are Journalists Underpaid?

"Well, the world needs ditch-diggers and journalists, too..." /Judge Smails
21 posted on 12/20/2005 3:30:01 PM PST by motzman (it's 10pm...have you rebuked a kook today?)
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To: baystaterebel
BWAAAAAAA HAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAA!

Is that the sound of a baby screaming, or crying? I don't get it.

22 posted on 12/20/2005 3:30:04 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: FreedomCalls
Never mind them. If the average Joe or Jill Reporter got heavy numbers, the herd mentality would break down. Those mopes in NYC and Hollywood believe their own stuff too much to ever turn normal.

But you do know that I'm being facetious here.

23 posted on 12/20/2005 3:30:05 PM PST by Thebaddog (K9 4ever)
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Then, don't live in New York...


24 posted on 12/20/2005 3:32:16 PM PST by WatchYourself
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To: baystaterebel


Has their ever been a more self absorbed creature put on this planet than a journalist?

An amoeba or Downy are pretty self absorbing.


25 posted on 12/20/2005 3:39:16 PM PST by moog
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To: motzman
Are Journalists Underpaid?

I remember a song we used to sing in the "O" club in RVN...for all of the good they might as well be shoveling $hit on the isle of Capri...

26 posted on 12/20/2005 3:44:05 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: baystaterebel

Underpaid? How about a salary cap for journalists?


27 posted on 12/20/2005 3:48:19 PM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: baystaterebel
Has their ever been a more self absorbed creature put on this planet than a journalist?

Clinton?

28 posted on 12/20/2005 3:49:32 PM PST by null and void (Peace on Earth. Death to the Terrorists...)
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To: baystaterebel
Given the types of lives many journalists wish to lead—and think they're entitled to lead by virtue of their education and positions—the wages aren't anywhere near sufficient.

Ha ha ha ..It dosnt' get better than this.

29 posted on 12/20/2005 3:53:12 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: baystaterebel

Journalists...PLEASE please please please...go on strike. If it takes two years and all the mainstream presses have to shut down, please go on strike. It's not the money, it's the...uh...principle of the thing. Yeah that's it. Whatever the reason, just STRIKE!!!


30 posted on 12/20/2005 3:55:36 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: baystaterebel

They need to find a real job anyway.


31 posted on 12/20/2005 3:56:52 PM PST by Godzilla (Jesus - The REASON for the SEASON)
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To: Maceman

They are not underpaid,just underhonest.


32 posted on 12/20/2005 3:59:31 PM PST by Hurricane
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To: baystaterebel

The problem is we have too many professional "journalists" with an agenda and not enough old fashioned reporters who report the facts.


33 posted on 12/20/2005 4:09:08 PM PST by rllngrk33 (The RATs and Media are the enemy.)
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To: baystaterebel

I am going to be sick...


34 posted on 12/20/2005 4:11:46 PM PST by pointsal
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To: atomicpossum

Are Journalists overpaid? Silly question! The ones I know are.


35 posted on 12/20/2005 4:19:40 PM PST by chainsaw ( ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - H. Clinton))
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To: baystaterebel
As soon as you find a "journalist" we could check. But my guess is that if you could find a "journalist", they should come in through the kitchen, and no self respecting person ought to be known to associate with said "journalists". But I digress.

From the standpoint of benefit to America, vs., cost to America; the Lamestream, "Hate Amerika First!", 5th. column for any, and all, of America's enemies, these vermin, these so-called "journalists", we should charge them for the air they breathe, and rent for their foot prints.

For those "journalists" who are cast of our American traditions, who understand their blood IS American, who understand their words have consequences that are paid in the blood, and sweat, and tears of their fellow citizens, their families, their friends; for them, their weight in precious stones is not near enough.
36 posted on 12/20/2005 4:22:34 PM PST by porkchops 4 mahound ("Si vis pacem, para bellum", If you wish peace, prepare for war.)
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To: baystaterebel
the creative classes

Statements like this deserve a quick punch in the mouth. I used to know a journalist at the local fish wrapper, free, alternative paper. He would complain that reporters were underpaid. Always in a way that implied that salaries were set or at least should be set by the federal government.

Although he deserved a punch in the mouth, I instead engaged him in conversation. It went like this.

"So if you should be getting paid more, and you deserve it so much, why don't you demand it and threaten to quit?"

"Because they would let me quit?"

"Can they replace you?"

"There are dozens of people willing to take my job, just to be able to write."

"Then you aren't worth more money are you?"

Sad beat puppy look from him. Mean, 'you just ruined the dinner party' look from my wife.

37 posted on 12/20/2005 4:23:55 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: txkev

First of all, journalists report facts, not opinions

That's news to me. They may report the manufactured stories and try to pass it off as true fact. (ie.) Dan Rather


38 posted on 12/20/2005 4:27:15 PM PST by chainsaw ( ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - H. Clinton))
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To: baystaterebel
Jennifer Steinhauer noted that, thanks to high housing prices, many of the creative types who work in Manhattan-centered fields like advertising, publishing, and the arts are being priced out of the city. This, presumably, could damage New York in the long run, since it's an article of faith among nouveau-urban thinkers that the creative classes are a huge economic advantage

They have it all backwards!!!

Don't raise the incomes of journalists whose papers are losing subscribers. They should use eminent domain to take Trump Tower and turn it into low-income housing so more people can afford to live in NYC. After all, it's better for the economy, so they say.

-PJ

39 posted on 12/20/2005 4:34:43 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: baystaterebel
It could also damage journalism. The journalists who write these stories about people who can't afford to live in New York can't afford to live in New York, either. And that's a trend that may prove just as corrosive to establishment media as any disruptive technology.

Yeah, they might actually to see what life is like on Staten Island or Queens or Jersey -- you know, places other than the Upper West Side. Boo hoo.

40 posted on 12/20/2005 4:37:50 PM PST by NYCVirago
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