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DEA's pot raid draws protests
The Sacramento Bee (CA) ^ | December 15, 2005 | Robert D. Dávila

Posted on 12/21/2005 9:39:56 AM PST by Know your rights

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To: robertpaulsen
robertpaulsen:

We tried to prohibit alcohol once. It didn't work. 13 short, unsuccessful years after Prohibition started, it ended. Why? I think, in part, it was the fact that alcohol has always been part of our American culture. It is used responsibly in religious ceremonies, social settings, in celebration, as part of a meal, as a gift, even in medicine. All other recreational drugs are part of the subculture, introduced into our society in the last 100 years or so.

Simply inaccurate paulsen, as you well know.. 'Other drugs' were perfectly legal and had been used for hundreds of years prior to the 20th century. -- They were used responsibly in medicine, religious ceremonies, social settings, as a gift, just like alcohol. - And they were abused, just like booze.

I think it's disingenuous for you to conclude that a drug is a drug is a drug. I don't see a burning need for our society to be consistent on this issue -- ie., if we legalize alcohol (actually considered a hard drug) then we must legalize all recreational drugs.

Both drugs & alcohol are 'legal'. Prohibitions on both were illegal, -- inconsistent with due process under our rule of law, as our Constitution delegates no power to prohibit.

robertpaulsen nitpicks:

-- your excepts from that link start in the early 1900's. Where's your support for those drugs having been used in the United States for "hundreds of years prior to the 20th century"?

Same place you got your 'bold' comments bobby.

-- Lord, - you two are funny today. - In the worst sense of 'funny'.

181 posted on 01/02/2006 4:42:19 PM PST by don asmussen
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To: Know your rights

example number 1007 that we pay too much in taxes.


182 posted on 01/02/2006 4:43:34 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: don asmussen
Both drugs & alcohol are 'legal'. Prohibitions on both were illegal

Day is night, black is white, crimes are legal, laws are illegal...

Ah, the "logic" of the left.

183 posted on 01/02/2006 5:21:48 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave
Both drugs & alcohol are 'legal'. Prohibitions on both were illegal.

Mojave spouts the leftist line:

Day is night, black is white, crimes are legal, laws are illegal... Ah, the "logic" of the left.

You said it kiddo, not me..

184 posted on 01/02/2006 5:27:11 PM PST by don asmussen
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To: don asmussen
How is it conservative to want to be on drugs?

That is such dysfunctional thinking.

Beware these goofs in major elections and look for them to post here to vote for some third party to enable Democrat office gains.
All don't do that, but enough do that you have to wonder what social liberals want on a conservative site.
185 posted on 01/02/2006 5:31:35 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy; robertpaulsen; Mojave
A CA Guy wrote:

How is it conservative to want to be on drugs?

Who here is advocating being on drugs, guy? -- Plenty of conservatives are against the socialists war on liberty, drugs, guns, - you name it..

That is such dysfunctional thinking.

Yes it is dysfunctional to pretend that being against prohibitions is somehow non-conservative.. - How do you manage that?

Beware these goofs in major elections and look for them to post here to vote for some third party to enable Democrat office gains. All don't do that, but enough do that you have to wonder what social liberals want on a conservative site.

Social liberals? You mean like paulsen & mojave, -- who advocate socialistic schemes to give Congress more prohibitory powers under the commerce clause?

How do you feel about such schemes, Guy?

186 posted on 01/02/2006 5:55:33 PM PST by don asmussen
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To: don asmussen
Drug laws and our conventional laws are here to establish civilization.
An absence of god is a great definition of hell.
An absence of conventional and drug laws is a definition of anarchy and the break down of civilization as we know it.

Anyone wanting to stop the drug laws in the name of the Constitution are effectively leaving America as ripe for a disaster as it would be for us to cut and run from Iraq.

The people wanting to use the drugs on their own for recreational use are the problems in our society and have NO standing in conservative politics or life IMO.
187 posted on 01/02/2006 6:07:48 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
How is it conservative to want to be on drugs?

As conservative as their hero, George Soros.

188 posted on 01/02/2006 7:00:14 PM PST by Mojave
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To: A CA Guy
Drug laws and our conventional laws are here to establish civilization.

Prohibitions help destabilize civilization, as our experience with alcohol showed.

An absence of god is a great definition of hell.

Your religious beliefs have little to do with politics, unless you use them to interfere with our rule of constitutional law.

An absence of conventional and drug laws is a definition of anarchy and the break down of civilization as we know it.

Bull, -- drug laws foster more black market anarchy world wide than any other political acts.

Anyone wanting to stop the drug laws in the name of the Constitution are effectively leaving America as ripe for a disaster as it would be for us to cut and run from Iraq.

Bull. Regulating drug markets would dry up a major source of terrorist funding.

The people wanting to use the drugs on their own for recreational use are the problems in our society and have NO standing in conservative politics or life IMO.

Those misguided unconstitutional opinions have driven our society to the brink of socialistic authoritarianism. -- We're long overdue to stop the WOD madness. It's nearly time to apply a Claire Wolf solution to prohibitionism, IMO.

189 posted on 01/02/2006 7:02:17 PM PST by don asmussen
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To: A CA Guy
The people wanting to use the drugs on their own for recreational use are the problems in our society

Libertarians claim that our society has no rights. Drug pushers have rights, but America does not.

190 posted on 01/02/2006 7:03:20 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Soros, -- mojaves straw boogieman..


191 posted on 01/02/2006 7:05:45 PM PST by don asmussen
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To: don asmussen
It's nearly time to apply a Claire Wolf solution

Shooting at the police from hiding would be dangerous to your health.

192 posted on 01/02/2006 7:05:51 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave
Libertarians claim that our society has no rights.

Moj, dancing the socialistic 'conga' line about libertarian boogiemen.

193 posted on 01/02/2006 7:13:50 PM PST by don asmussen
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To: don asmussen
libertarian boogiemen

Nits.

194 posted on 01/02/2006 7:16:13 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Health moj? You're the one seeing boogiemen.. Watch out or they'll getcha..


195 posted on 01/02/2006 7:19:47 PM PST by don asmussen
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