Posted on 12/21/2005 1:12:17 PM PST by AFA-Michigan
Where do you suppose that James Madison got the idea that "the separation between Religion & Govt in the Constitution" did not permit the State of Kentucky "to exempt Houses of Worship from taxes" and to write in his Detached Memoranda that:
Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion & Govt in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history. (See the cases in which negatives were put by J. M. on two bills passd by Congs and his signature withheld from another. See also attempt in Kentucky for example, where it was proposed to exempt Houses of Worship from taxes.
OK Slick – Show me a well documented case of extreme separation where the government oppresses religious expression in a public forum; but if it turns out that the religious expression is actually that of the government (not if an individual) or if the religious expression is actually a case of religious advice being issued with government authority, then forget about it. Just take it over to the Synagogue of Satan and show it to the Devil because that is where those types of ideas come from.
OK Dude – Show me a well-documented case of separation where people who contract with the government lose their religious freedom.
OK my friend – Show me a well-documented case of separation where people who are on government property lose their religious freedom
OK Cowboy – Show me a well-documented case of separation where people who contract with the government lose their religious freedom
You believe in “no law prohibiting the fee exercise of the authority of the government to issue religious advice.”
May 1, 2001
A public school chapel that was locked after the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) questioned its constitutionality was reopened April 23 following the removal of a framed Bible verse from Isaiah.
April 19, 2001
The closing of a student-run Bible Club in the Deer Valley Unified School District in Arizona has ignited an intensifying debate.
Police were called to monitor a crowd of more than 200 at a recent school board meeting. Of the nine people who addressed the board, most spoke in favor of the Bible clubs, and were critical of the district.
March 2, 2001
Facing a temporary ban on the construction of new schools and churches in the rural areas of King County, Wash., one county councilman has gone on the offensive
Wednesday, December 6, 2000
A couple is suing after being ordered to stop holding prayer meetings at their home. Robert and Mary Murphy sued the town of New Milford, Conn., in federal court, saying the town is violating their rights to freedom of religion and assembly, The Associated Press reported. The Murphys have invited family members and friends to their home weekly on Sundays since 1995 for fellowship, Bible study, and prayer. The gatherings typically do not exceed 25 people.
Neighbors complained, and the New Milford zoning commission ruled that such regular meeting that use the back yard as a parking lot violated regulations.
Thursday, November 2, 2000
The National Park Service will remove a monument to World War I veterans in Mojave National Preserve because it contains a cross. The action is being taken after the American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California sued on behalf of a former park employee to have the eight-foot cross removed, The Associated Press reported.
Friday, October 20, 2000
A Baptist Halloween production in a city park has West Virginia witches frightened for their First Amendment rights, The Associated Press reported. Wiccans Dave McCormick and Elise Adkins claim the First Baptist Church of Dunbar's "Haunted Hollow" at Wine Cellar Park violates the Constitution and have asked the American Civil Liberties Union to help stop the holiday display. They say it validates the establishment of a particular religion, the AP reported. The ACLU said it planned to file a lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Charleston this week.
OK thanks. Now please provide me with the definition of religion you want to use for First Amendment purposes and explain to me how, in the Kentucky School Quiet Room* case, the government prohibited anyone from freely exercising their duty to the Creator?
* Kentucky School Removes Scripture, Reopens 'Quiet Room'- May 1, 2001
A public school chapel that was locked after the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) questioned its constitutionality was reopened April 23 following the removal of a framed Bible verse from Isaiah.
The Indiana Civil Liberties Union (ICLU) has filed a federal lawsuit against the Speaker of the Indiana House of Representatives, Brian Bosma, for using the name of Jesus in the body’s opening prayers.
ACLU Contends Abstinence Education Violates Church and State
By A. Urti
The ACLU has filed a lawsuit alleging that an abstinence education program has been the recipient of federal funds in violation of the so-called separation of church and state.
ACLU Opposes Federal Land Lease to Church
By A. Urti
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) is attempting to block the federal government from leasing a piece of land to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (LDS), where more than 100 Mormons died in 1856.
ACLU Sues School over Teachers Prayer Group
By Sam Kastensmidt
On April 12, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a federal lawsuit against a Bossier Parish School Board in Louisiana because school officials have permitted faculty members to participate in a teacher-led prayer group designed exclusively for adults.
ACLU: Inmates Cannot Be on Church Property
By Sam Kastensmidt
Boulder County, Colorado prisoners will no longer be permitted to work on church properties after the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) threatened the county sheriff.
The meaning of the establishment clause is, “We Don't Need No Stinkin Advice From The Government On Religion.”
Do you acknowledge that God and God alone in invested with the just authority to impose on a man obligations that pertain to the duties that man owes to the Creator?
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