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To: zbigreddogz; AuH2ORepublican; Clintonfatigued

"Oh please, you are just talking crazy now. I don't care how RINO Weld is in the tax & spend department, he was and is tough on crime and, most imporatantly, is good on the WOT."

Weld is an abomination and an apostate to the GOP of the highest order. How many times must I repeat this ? Apparently, we need to go over the facts again... please follow me...

U.S. Congress (Weld First Term) 2 Republicans - 8 Democrats
U.S. Congress (Weld-1997) ZERO Republicans - 10 Democrats

Statewide (Weld First Term) Lt Gov, Treasurer, 2 Executive Councilors
Statewide (1999) Lt Gov (elected because it comes with the Gov)

State Senate (Weld First Term) 16 Republicans - 24 Democrats
State Senate (Weld-1997) 7 Republicans - 33 Democrats

State House (Weld First Term) 38 Republicans - 121 Democrats
State House (1999*) 27 Republicans - 131 Democrats
*By the end of Jane Swift's term 4 years later, number dropped to 20 in the House

"Weicker is a standard anti-American hack. He endorsed Howard Dean for God's sake."

Of course Weicker is a lunatic, but what did GOVERNOR Weicker yield AFTER he left the Republican party ? Let's see...

U.S. Congress (Weicker-1991) 3 Republicans - 3 Democrats
U.S. Congress (End of term-1995) No Change

Statewide (Weicker-1991) 1 GOP Sec of State
Statewide (Weicker-1995) 1 Governor, Lt Gov, Treasurer (+2 GOP gain)

State Senate (Weicker-1991) Democrats majority (20 D-16 R)
State Senate (Weicker-1995) Republican majority (19 R-17 D)

State House (Weicker-1991) 62 Republicans - 89 Democrats
State House (Weicker-1995) 61 Republicans - 90 Democrats (1 seat loss)

"Any comparison between them is intellectually dishonest."

Nope, my demonstration is that Weicker did more for the GOP as a loose-cannon 'Rat aligned Indy than Weld did as a Republican - EVER.

"And besides, Weld never lost re-election like Weicker did. He'd have won a 3rd term as Governor had he stuck around for it."

Weicker never ran for a 2nd term as Governor, as he would've lost handily to John Rowland in a rematch. Weld wouldn't have been eligible to run for a 3rd term, besides, he was so BORED with the job after winning reelection, he didn't care to stick around. For that matter, he didn't stick around Massachusetts, either, to live under the disaster he created.

"And you still haven't managed to justify Helms reasoning. Are you actually going to argue that having the federal government control pot for medical reasons, should be the 'conservative' position? If so, you are a dying breed indeed. Most conservatives I know believe in this thing called 'federalism'."

You think Helms stomped that termite into the ground over medical marijuana ? I couldn't give a flying f**k what his position on that issue was. Helms stomped that termite into the ground because Weld (vis a vis his wife) was actively AIDING Helms's DEMOCRAT opponent. He was actively causing substantial destruction to the Republican party, and he wasn't going to let that punk besmirch the GOP any more from a high profile position as Ambassador to Mexico (one offered to him SOLELY because Clinton enjoyed watching Weld actively attack his "fellow Republicans").

Weld was interested in nothing more than destroying the Republican party from within all the while promoting himself. He is, was, and will always be SCUM. The damage he created in Massachusetts (which also, BTW, included appointing the radical court that gave us gay marriage) has NEVER been corrected. His two mental-deficient successors compounded the damage, and the hapless Mitt Romney tried, but the damage was simply too great, and now he has given up trying (and he, too, will probably move back to Utah in January 2007).

Big Red, you have seen the light on Missing Linc Chafee, and Chafee has "technically" done little damage in Rhode Island other than to make himself look like a complete moron, how can you close your eyes and say Weld is somehow "credible", especially when the facts of his reign of terror upon the GOP and the state of Massachusetts are right in front of you ?


27 posted on 12/30/2005 4:33:23 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

You seem to have trouble with understanding causal issues. Just because R's didn't win while Weld was Governor, it doesn't necessarily follow that it was his fault. Matter of fact, you have shown 0 evidence that that is the case, actually.


30 posted on 12/30/2005 1:32:29 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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