Posted on 12/22/2005 9:50:12 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
No, it's a national one. If I'm not mistaken, it's also a Republican polling company.
Poor John Jay LOL. Chicken John is a political nick name derived from a failed fried chicken chain he ran. Seriously I remember as a kid in the mid 1960's hearing endless Hooker for governor campaign commericals. Yea Hooker was the Dems wall flower. The Dems did not by any means want a win that year.
Lamar Alexander was the logical choice at the time. He had far greater name I.D. and Tennssee was less Republican than it is now. He won the general election by a fairly comfortable margin. You are right, however, that his record in the Senate has been thoroughly mediocre, even dissapointing.
But that was then and this is now. Any informed research into this race based on logic would conclude that Ed Bryant is the best choice for 2006.
Actually, I'll say that the GOP succeeded in spite of Scummy. We increased our percent of the vote in every election at the legislative level. Despite Scummy's attempts to help the 'Rats reduce our numbers to 1/3rd of the legislature (despite getting over 50% (!) of the vote), we were able to stop him. Unfortunately, we weren't able to stop the 'Rat gerrymander of the Congressional districts, or Pharoah Phil's purchase of the Governorship.
"BTW while you were in high school during Alexanders term I working for the 1982 Worlds fair LOL. You would not believe the dirty deals that went on."
Actually, I was in elementary and middle school during his term. I went to the Worlds Fair when I was 8. I don't doubt what shenanigans went on during it. Nonetheless, I still enjoyed the Fair in blissful ignorance. I don't, however, know how much was Alexander's fault in this instance. The Fair, IIRC, was already secured by the time Blanton finished his term with the blessing of Jimmuh Carter. I believe it was mostly a 'Rat affair that also involved the Butchers and Randy Tyree, one of the few 'Rats to be elected Mayor of Knoxville (of course, a Butcher and Tyree would both be Lamar's! respective opponents in '78 and '82).
"One guy I worked with in maintenance there was a reserve cop and the Electrician for the fair. He told me Jake and CH were going down very soon. Indeed he was right."
That was always something that really bothered me, that Lamar! could've used the mass-scale corruption in the TN 'Rat party to build up ours, and he did precisely nothing (which, you might recall, the party was either at parity or in the majority (the first Southern state to go majority GOP in the latter half of the 20th Century) following the Baker v. Carr decision until Watergate - and to this date, our high water mark in the legislature (House, at least) was during the 1969-70 session when we got Bill Jenkins the Speakership).
Yeah, John Jay was never a very astute businessman. I've always enjoyed him more being a gigantic pain in the ass to the political establishment here in Nashville. Of course, back in the '60s/early '70s, he was considered a major player and threat to the 2-decade long Ellington-Clement leapfroggin' administrations as an insurgent liberal. Had he won the Gubernatorial nomination in '66, we might've had a very different look to our state government today (because, IIRC, the fledgling state GOP considered Ellington "Conservative enough" to not bother with an opposing candidate - so Hooker would've become Governor unopposed - even as Howard Baker benefitted from the internecine 'Rat battle between Ross Bass and Frank Clement for the Senate seat). Only with Frank Clement's untimely death at 49 in a car accident in North Nashville in 1969 finally allowed Hooker's breakthrough (though Hooker still might've managed to defeat Clement in '70, since Clement was already considered a pre-Eisenhower anachronism, an awful thing to be at such a relatively young age). I think after his '70 loss, Hooker was never a serious candidate. Of course, when he did manage to get that nomination 28 years later, he didn't seem to act terribly interested in campaigning outside of that West Nashville restaurant where he used to "hold court."
If you can get to know Hilleary, I'm sure you'll like him.
He used to write a regular column for newspaper publication during his first term as a Congressman - I read it in the Shelbyville Times-Gazette - and he is very conservative.
During his first campaign, in '94, he stayed at a friend of mine's home whenever he visited Bedford County, and I got to know him there, got to work on his campaign. He IS conservative - it's not just a campaign act!
It IS wise when you're courting the vote of working moms who would much prefer to have the state foot the bill for their childcare!
THAT's what the "pre-K" programs are REALLY about - getting the rest of us, who choose to have a stay-at-home mother, to foot the bills for the greedy ones' daycare.
This is Bryant's baby, he was the one that was screwed by Lamar! and his RINO brigades. I love Van, but he has NO business getting into this Senate contest. I'll support him for whatever other office he chooses to run for.
That's standard operating procedure for cva66snipe. He won't address what you are saying, but try to make it look like he is by changing the context of the discussion. You keep discussing his voting record, and he is not, but still acts like he is debunking what you say. You weren't fooled, I see, and if you keep on not being fooled by it, you'll get profane, tantrum-like private messages from him in your Freep mail as I did.
He was nasty like this to a lot of people, which is why he got banned for a time. Just be prepared if you plan to engage him. I can see from his discussion with you he hasn't changed a bit with the tactics of phony discussion.
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