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From irrational to illogical on immigration [Barf Alert]
San Diego Union ^ | DEC 25, 2005 | RUBEN NAVARRETTE JR.

Posted on 12/25/2005 7:58:53 AM PST by radar101

Where's the holiday spirit? I bet that's what a lot of U.S.-born Hispanics are wondering as 2005 comes to an end.

These are scary times for the nation's largest minority. Everywhere you look, it seems that some Americans are trying to erect more walls, deploy more guards, and whenever possible, roll back the influence of Hispanic culture.

Maybe it's all about the numbers. There's something about accounting for 40 million people that makes some folks uncomfortable – as if it's only a matter of time before they are edged out for admission to colleges and some of the better jobs. Or maybe what they are afraid of is that their neighborhoods and towns will be overrun and their language, culture and customs will be eroded.

And when people get uncomfortable, they act irrationally.

Case in point: Jennifer Watts, principal of the Endeavor Alternative School, a small public high school in Kansas City, Kan. In an eerie throwback to the 1940s when Mexican students were often punished for speaking Spanish in school, Watts recently suspended 16-year-old Zach Rubio for committing just that infraction. After Zach's father, Lorenzo Rubio, complained to the school superintendent and demanded to see in writing the policy that his son violated, the district rescinded the suspension and declared that speaking a foreign language is not sufficient grounds for that kind of punishment.

Someone should have told that to Watts and her staff. According to The Washington Post, Watts wrote in the paperwork explaining the suspension: "This is not the first time we have (asked) Zach and others not to speak Spanish at school."

When asked about the incident by the Post, both Watts and the superintendent declined to comment – perhaps because the Rubios are considering filing a civil rights lawsuit.

Sometimes what gets people up in arms isn't Spanish but taco trucks. The Nashville City Council considered a proposal by three of its members to ban taco trucks and other mobile food vendors. Supporters of the ban insisted that it was prompted by legitimate health concerns and not by – as critics suggested – a cultural backlash against Hispanics who, according to The Associated Press, operate the majority of the mobile vending trucks in the city. But the council members had a tough time explaining why the ban did not apply to smaller street vendors, such as hot dog carts.

In the last decade or so, similar bans on taco trucks have been debated in California, Texas, Arizona, North Carolina and elsewhere.

After a public outcry, the Nashville council deferred action on the proposal. Supporters now say they are working on drafting a new and less stringent ordinance.

Of course, if you really want irrational thinking, you can't top Congress – specifically the House of Representatives.

After decades of ignoring the problem of illegal immigration, some House members can't wait to take credit for helping craft a solution. Trouble is, what passes for solutions in Washington are half-baked proposals such as the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005, a bill that is heavy on enforcement but light on practicality, honesty and common sense.

Proposed by Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., the bill wastes a lot of ink attempting to keep out additional illegal immigrants, but not a drop explaining what we should do with the more than 11 million of them who are already here, or dealing with the economic incentive that brings them to this country.

Among the 239 House members who voted in favor of the legislation were 36 Democrats, some of whom might have been pressured to support the legislation by party leaders.

The Hill – a newspaper that covers Congress – ran a story last week saying that members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus were "furious" at Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., for lobbying Democrats with tough re-election battles next year to vote "yes" on the Sensenbrenner bill. Emanuel denies that he lobbied anyone.

At least, Republican leaders were smart enough to scuttle debate on an obscene amendment to the bill that would have essentially rolled back part of the 14th Amendment by declaring that the children of illegal immigrants born in this country would no longer be U.S. citizens.

The citizenship ban doesn't make any sense. You had better believe most of those who support it also oppose the idea of giving amnesty to illegal immigrants. The opponents of amnesty insist that you can't willy-nilly convert those who are illegal to legal, and yet now some of these same people want to unilaterally convert the legal to illegal.

Enough of irrational. Make way for illogical.

Navarrette can be reached via e-mail: ruben.navarrette@uniontrib.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderslanguage; culture; gohomestayhome; immigrantlist; immigration
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1 posted on 12/25/2005 7:58:55 AM PST by radar101
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To: radar101

Don't get your ponch in a was Ruben. If you are an US-born Hispanic, you are a citizen. It's the future illegals that will be affected by this.


2 posted on 12/25/2005 8:06:03 AM PST by keithtoo (Leftists/Democrats - Traitors, Haters and Vacillators)
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To: keithtoo

ponch=poncho.


3 posted on 12/25/2005 8:06:24 AM PST by keithtoo (Leftists/Democrats - Traitors, Haters and Vacillators)
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To: radar101
"whenever possible, roll back the influence of Hispanic culture."

If Hispanic culture were worth two $hits, there would not be so many Mexicans illegally crossing our border to get them some gringo culture.
4 posted on 12/25/2005 8:09:54 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: radar101
who are already here, or dealing with the economic incentive that brings them to this country

This means you Mexico. Get your economic head out of your ass and give these people some work so they stop flooding our country.
5 posted on 12/25/2005 8:11:14 AM PST by steel_resolve (Hell - the absence of GOD. Hell on Earth - The Absence of America.)
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To: radar101

I think it time to vote Ruben off the island.


6 posted on 12/25/2005 8:12:55 AM PST by Jimbaugh (Fear the Base !!!)
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To: radar101

The border should have been closed 20 yearss ago.


7 posted on 12/25/2005 8:14:39 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: radar101

sorry....
but two illegals do not make a legal.


8 posted on 12/25/2005 8:15:59 AM PST by no-to-illegals
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To: radar101
Ruben Navarrette is an idiot. What would the reaction be in Mexico if the U.S. started sending people over the border like the Mexicans do to the U.S.? I guarantee you it would far worse then anything America has proposed.AWB
9 posted on 12/25/2005 8:26:22 AM PST by Americanwolfsbrother (Don't hate on someone for using their mind.)
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To: radar101
"At least, Republican leaders were smart enough to scuttle debate on an obscene amendment to the bill that would have essentially rolled back part of the 14th Amendment by declaring that the children of illegal immigrants born in this country would no longer be U.S. citizen

And they came back with the WRONG answer!! Kids born here to ILLEGALS should not be given automatic citizenship...PERIOD!!

10 posted on 12/25/2005 8:35:42 AM PST by stopem (Keep the spirit of Christmas in your heart all year long! Merry Christmas to all !!!)
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To: radar101

This guy has never been to REAL Mexico.


11 posted on 12/25/2005 8:57:14 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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To: radar101
Where's the holiday spirit? I bet that's what a lot of U.S.-born Hispanics are wondering as 2005 comes to an end.

These are scary times for the nation's largest minority. Everywhere you look, it seems that some Americans are trying to erect more walls, deploy more guards, and whenever possible, roll back the influence of Hispanic culture.

How in the world would "U.S.-born Hispanics" be affected by erecting more walls and deploying more guards at the border? Are they all involved in smuggling in drugs and illegals, or what?

And what is up with this "roll back the influence of Hispanic culture" stuff? Which Hispanic culture, Cubans, Mexicans, Peruvians, Hondurans? Are the Hispanic-Americans Mexican-Americans worried about someone else horning in on their "right" to be in charge of all things Hispanic?

I think Ruben has gone off the deep end again.

12 posted on 12/25/2005 9:12:14 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: gubamyster
Merry Christmas, gub.

ping

13 posted on 12/25/2005 9:14:09 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: stopem

At least, Republican leaders were smart enough to scuttle debate on an obscene amendment to the bill that would have essentially rolled back part of the 14th Amendment by declaring that the children of illegal immigrants born in this country would no longer be U.S. citizens.

The citizenship ban doesn't make any sense. You had better believe most of those who support it also oppose the idea of giving amnesty to illegal immigrants. The opponents of amnesty insist that you can't willy-nilly convert those who are illegal to legal, and yet now some of these same people want to unilaterally convert the legal to illegal.

Enough of irrational. Make way for illogical.


I love this. "The citizenship ban doesn't make any sense."
He doesn't actually give a reason why it doesn't make sense, just states it like it was a fact. Typical liberal moron.


14 posted on 12/25/2005 9:16:55 AM PST by Free Dominoes
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To: Free Dominoes
At least he thinks we've overcome irrational and advanced into poor logic; maybe he's offering an olive branch? :)

My personal favorite was "the district rescinded the suspension and declared that speaking a foreign language is not sufficient grounds for that kind of punishment."

I guess they decided that growing up ignorant and unable to communicate is punishment enough.

15 posted on 12/25/2005 9:23:46 AM PST by norton
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To: norton

The kid was probably cussing out the teacher in Spanish. That's about the only real reason I would have a problem with kids speaking another language at school.


16 posted on 12/25/2005 9:34:36 AM PST by Free Dominoes
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx
Are we a nation of laws, or not?


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


17 posted on 12/25/2005 9:42:21 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: radar101
and whenever possible, roll back the influence of Hispanic culture

That is a racist load of crap. Some of us are interested in rolling back the influence of illegal alien Hispanic culture. Hispanics that are naturalized are as welcome and accepted as any other immigrant group.

It is the influence of the illegal criminal element that is unwelcome. I do not consider it a good development that the Hispanic leadership in the US has taken on the defense of unscreened (for disease and criminal history) illegals.

By advocating the expansion of criminality they will reduce their credibility to a level where they will be given no more credence than the poverty pimps that have destroyed black culture and the credibility of their entire demographic in the eyes of the average person in the US.

18 posted on 12/25/2005 9:45:35 AM PST by mmercier (we do not suffer fools lightly)
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To: BenLurkin

Correct!


19 posted on 12/25/2005 10:16:04 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Merry Christmas to all our troops at home and abroad!!)
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To: Travis McGee

BTTT and Merry Christmas.


20 posted on 12/25/2005 10:17:11 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Merry Christmas to all our troops at home and abroad!!)
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