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Childish debate: Democrats call Bush a liar, but the facts speak for themselves
WORLD ^ | December 31, 2005 | Joel Belz

Posted on 12/29/2005 4:17:36 AM PST by rhema

Anyone who's ever tried to referee a squabble between two little children—especially a squabble of the "yes-you-did-no-I-didn't" variety—should appreciate how valuable it would be to have a written record of all that was actually said. By the nature of the case in a domestic quarrel, of course, that's a rarity.

What is neither rare nor inaccessible are the thousands of pages of written records of what was actually said by dozens of important people leading up to the war in Iraq. For our nation now to be consumed by an unending and escalating debate over whether our president lied to us about all this is itself childish. The transcripts of what he and others said are there. Why not look at them and settle the matter? As we wrap up 2005, can we as a society afford to spend 2006 debating a matter that can be resolved so simply?

It would be one thing, although still shameful, if it were only his Democratic opponents and the anti-war activist crowd who were engaged in such a relentless assault. But for the mainstream media to become the megaphones for the president's political enemies, rather than the clarifiers of recent historical fact, becomes more dismaying with each passing week.

Nowhere is the whole fiasco more vividly symbolized than in the terribly complex case involving the indictment of Lewis "Scooter" Libby, who six weeks ago had to resign his position as chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney. The Libby case is pertinent because of how it grows out of an effort to prove that President Bush lied—specifically in a famous 16-word sentence in an address to Congress—and then that he and his staff tried to punish people who exposed his falsehood. What we know suggests that Mr. Bush told the truth, both literally and in the larger context, and that it is his accusers who have blatantly and repeatedly lied.

The Libby case has become so complex that even those who understand it don't. After spending two years and several million dollars of taxpayer money, about all the talented special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has been able to prove—or even charge—is that a very busy Mr. Libby has a different memory about details and dates than some New York and Washington journalists have. The media, and their Democratic friends, love to call all this a "scandal"; but it's time for somebody to sketch out at least a framework and rationale for the deception that was supposedly taking place. The egg in the end is going to be on the faces of at least a few establishment journalists, and maybe some other surprising figures as well.

Meanwhile, the Democratic leadership heads frantically into 2006 hoping that no one will recall how specifically Bill Clinton, Madeleine Albright, Sandy Berger, William Cohen, Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Bob Graham, Hillary Clinton, Jay Rockefeller, Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd—well, how many more do you want?—how specifically all these folks endorsed the same intelligence data they now say Mr. Bush falsified and agreed that Saddam Hussein posed a threat. If you have any doubt, read Norman Podhoretz's "Who Is Lying About Iraq?" in the December issue of Commentary magazine.

Mr. Podhoretz shows how even editorialists at The New York Times and The Washington Post were not so long ago singing a different tune. The Times, he says, was skeptical of bargaining with Saddam Hussein, saying it was "hard to negotiate with a tyrant who has no intention of honoring his commitments and who sees nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons as his country's salvation."

The Post, meanwhile, said as Mr. Bush came to office in 2001 that "of all the booby traps left behind by the Clinton administration, none is more dangerous—or more urgent—than the situation in Iraq. Over the last year, Mr. Clinton and his team quietly avoided dealing with, or calling attention to, the almost complete unraveling of a decade's efforts to isolate the regime of Saddam Hussein and prevent it from building its weapons of mass destruction. That leaves President Bush to confront a dismaying panorama in the Persian Gulf [where] intelligence photos . . . show the reconstruction of factories long suspected of producing chemical and biological weapons."

It's one thing, I say, when little kids get into "yes-you-did-no-I-didn't" squabbles. It's another when politicians and journalists say things in black and white, and then pretend that they didn't.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; bushlied; cialeak; democrat; libby; newyorktimes; prewarintelligence; republican; waronterror

1 posted on 12/29/2005 4:17:40 AM PST by rhema
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To: BibChr; Caleb1411

2 posted on 12/29/2005 4:18:56 AM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: rhema
The self-delusion of the Left in this country, on this issue, proceeds unabated.

Logical thought and rational postmortem analysis, of the sort offered by this article, is not the province of the emoting Left.
3 posted on 12/29/2005 4:28:11 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: rhema
"The Libby case has become so complex that even those who understand it don't. After spending two years and several million dollars of taxpayer money, about all the talented special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has been able to prove—or even charge—is that a very busy Mr. Libby has a different memory about details and dates than some New York and Washington journalists have."


The talented special prosecutor?


I certainly hope Mr. Belz was being sarcastic with that statement.





4 posted on 12/29/2005 4:32:08 AM PST by G.Mason (All I said was "Happy Holidays" and I got twelve hundred whiners weeping.)
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To: rhema
The transcripts of what he and others said are there. Why not look at them and settle the matter?

Because Democrats, which includes the vast majority of the MSM, are no longer interested in the truth. It's sad, but it's true.

5 posted on 12/29/2005 4:34:26 AM PST by libertylover (Bush spied. Terrorists died. Democrats cried.)
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To: rhema
Excellent read!!!!!!!
6 posted on 12/29/2005 4:51:45 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: libertylover
And, that is definitely the truth. If the lips of the MSM and Democrats are moving, you can be sure that it is a lie.
7 posted on 12/29/2005 4:54:20 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: rhema

It's just more of the libnuts and their "alternate reality". They think that if they call Bush a liar often enough, well....it simply MUST be true, regardless of any facts to support their baseless claim.

The libnuts are sinking faster than ever. A quick recap on what they have for 06 and 08:

1) We REALLY hate Bush
2) Karl Rove is STILL under investigation

If anyone else has anything to add to their campaign platform, feel free to add on. LOL!


8 posted on 12/29/2005 5:01:51 AM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: rhema

"Meanwhile, the Democratic leadership heads frantically into 2006 hoping that no one will recall how specifically [they], all these folks, endorsed the same intelligence data they now say Mr. Bush falsified and agreed that Saddam Hussein posed a threat"

But Unfortunately for the rat, we don't have to remember. We now have the new media to do that. The new media will ultimately be the death of the lying evil donkey.


9 posted on 12/29/2005 5:27:01 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (We will never murtha to the terrorists. Bring home the troops means bring home the war.)
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To: rhema
Yes; and we seem to be stuck with this childish maneurvering of truth that the media itself. . .allows, fosters. . .encourages to play out; despite the weariness of the public who watch/read, day after day. . .what is no more than the Left's favorite game of 'GOTCHA' . . .

Personally am disgusted with Fox News as well. . .continuing. . .to give voice. . .legitimacy to the 'Demrat war room spin' (as they did with Plame/Rove etc).

It is neither fair nor balanced to continue to treat the Demrat opposition with a respect and legitimacy, they do not deserve.

There is a 'truth' here to report. . .and there is a 'lie'. . .

(. ..and they should get rid of the Colonel or whatever. . .Wesley Clark as well, doing his anti-Bush military analysis - but that is another topic. . .)

10 posted on 12/29/2005 5:28:14 AM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: rhema
There is only one reason it is "escalating" and "unending," and that is because the Dems need it as an election issue.
11 posted on 12/29/2005 5:32:56 AM PST by NordP (Karl Rove's b-day is Dec 25th. It seems a great carpenter values a good architect ;-)
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To: rhema
But for the mainstream media to become the megaphones for the president's political enemies, rather than the clarifiers of recent historical fact, becomes more dismaying with each passing week.

I saw a line in an article about China the other day that went, "The propaganda department of the Central Committee, yadda yadda yadda."

For some reason, my mind instantly translated that as:

The propaganda department of the Democratic National Committee, yadda yadda yadda."

That's the MSM. THe Propaganda Departement of the Democratic National Committee.

We no longer have a free press in these United States.

The "Watchdog on the Presidency" has rabies.

12 posted on 12/29/2005 8:46:54 AM PST by America's Resolve (I've become a 'single issue voter' for 06 and 08. My issue is illegal immigration!)
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