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Environmentalism for votes like Political Correctness for votes is sinking America. The laws are already on the books for the environment - we do not need more people in the Congress or the Senate who pander to the special interest enviromentalist - shun them rather than vote for them.
1 posted on 12/30/2005 10:18:07 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

So who bought the mill?


2 posted on 12/30/2005 10:21:07 AM PST by Wolfie
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...across much of the West there is a gnawing sense that environmentalists have hurt a lot of underdogs in their lust for power.

As do the private, tax-exempt "charitable" foundations of major corporate stockholders, many of whom are invested in (drum roll please) competing sources of timber from overseas.

The environmentalists will "rediscover" forest stewardship once the competition is dead and the market has consolidated in the hands of moneyed interests. The rest of us will pay through the nose, especially on the interests on the loans to purchase goods requiring large amounts of raw material at inflated prices, particularly homes.

There is an alternative. It starts with private property.

3 posted on 12/30/2005 10:26:59 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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The general "too much interference" applies across the board, and it's worse for small businesses, who usually lack in-house lawyers, accountants, and other such personnel to deal with it daily. I left retailing in 1985, service in 1999, and firearms in 2002, and while there were a number of compelling reasons, too many taxes, and too much regulation were strong parts of it.

If the average Soccer Mom had to put up with the Mickey Mouse rules businesses are subjected to, there'd be a revolution in this country. The average person has no idea how onerous it is.

4 posted on 12/30/2005 10:29:57 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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As people move to cities, they become infatuated with fantasies about land untouched by humans

They can't solve the problems of filth and crime in the cities they love, yet they dictate to those in the countryside how to live...Revolting!
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8 posted on 12/30/2005 10:54:11 AM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: yoe; forester; Carry_Okie


13 posted on 12/30/2005 11:06:41 AM PST by FOG724 (A vote for McCain is a vote for Hillary)
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To: yoe
If the enviro-nazis were half as interested in preserving forests as they would like us to believe, they would not stand in the way of removing diseased stands of trees or the building of logging roads so that fire-fighting equipment could have access.

It's obvious that they are only after control and imposing their wills on everyone else and not protecting any environment.

14 posted on 12/30/2005 11:07:03 AM PST by nightdriver
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>>But this urbanization of environmental values also signals the loss of a rural way of life...<<

As is intended per Agenda 21. We may thank our United nations, local, state and federal politicians for this warped sense of sustainability.

Just for the heck of it, call your local City Manager and ask if they know about Agenda 21. The response will be, "Yes, of course I do." Then ask why these words, "Agenda 21" are never mentioned at Public Meeting of the city officials.

Do they not want the locals to know that they are operating under a global plan? No, they do not!


15 posted on 12/30/2005 11:16:43 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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It's such a shame that a great state like Montana has been infected with vermin from Mexifornia and other nearby rat producing states. The good people of the state were asleep at the switch. Come home Montana, come home.


17 posted on 12/30/2005 11:33:01 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (We will never murtha to the terrorists. Bring home the troops means bring home the war.)
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There are hidden contradictions in the minds of people who "love Nature" while deploring the "artificialities" with which "Man has spoiled 'Nature.' " The obvious contradiction lies in their choice of words, which imply that Man and his artifacts are not part of "Nature", but beavers and their dams are. But the contradictions go deeper than this prima-facie absurdity. In declaring his love for a beaver dam (erected by beavers for beavers' purposes) and his hatred for dams erected by men (for the purposes of men) the "Naturist" reveals his hatred for his own race, i.e. his own self-hatred. In the case,of "Naturists" such self-hatred is understandable; they are such a sorry lot. But hatred is too strong an emotion to feel toward them; pity and contempt are the most they rate. As for me, willy-nilly I am a man, not a beaver, and H. sapiens is the only race I have or can have. Fortunately for me, I like being part of a race made up of men and women, it strikes me as a fine arrangement and perfectly "natural."

ROBERT HEINLEIN


20 posted on 12/30/2005 1:03:15 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the back, or a Fool from any side.”)
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A family member of mine once owned a small rural saw mill. It provided a decent living for about a dozen folks from the nearest rural town of about a hundred people. My family member sunk all their savings into the place and struggled for several years to turn a profit. A change in logging rules (due to Green pressure) for the nearby forests all but made acquiring decent logs impossible. The mill lasted about 5-6 months after the rules change but the cost of essentially importing logs from other areas was too much to bear.
21 posted on 12/30/2005 1:29:06 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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Perhaps we need to consider a new phrase in the lexicon.

Enviromentalist Harvest........ roll it over, let it gently fall from you lips. A foul crop of weeds needs to be uprooted. The enviromentalist harvest will bring a better crop from the garden.


27 posted on 12/30/2005 5:56:53 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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But this urbanization of environmental values also signals the loss of a rural way of life...

No. It just means things are being run by people far, far, away who have absolutely no f*cking idea what in the hell is going on out here.

31 posted on 12/31/2005 1:19:37 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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I know this sounds crazy, but is it possible that plain old competition caused this mill to shut down? While there's expected to be a short-term lumber shortage due to hurricane reconstruction, I'm not aware that there's any expected long-term shortage. Weyerhaeuser alone has more than 39 million acres of managed forest worldwide (which makes for some pretty tough competition all by itself).


33 posted on 01/01/2006 10:25:13 AM PST by atlaw
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