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Laffer Curve Works Again
HUMAN EVENTS ^ | Dec 28, 2005 | Jerry Bowyer

Posted on 12/31/2005 8:45:33 AM PST by george76

Ronald Reagan once said an economist is someone who sees something that works in practice and wonders if it would work in theory.

So why is it that when confronted with a concept that works in both practice and theory, so many people refuse to believe it?

The Laffer Curve, popularized by economist Arthur Laffer, says the government can maximize tax revenue by setting the tax rate at ...

The logic is obvious on the ends of the spectrum: if the tax rate is 0%, the government collects no money.

If it is 100%, people have no reason to earn, and the government still collects no money.

Federal tax receipts for October and November (the first two months of fiscal 2006) were $288 billion. This is up from the first two months of fiscal 2005 ...

Despite cutting tax rates in May 2003, tax receipts for this two-month period have risen for three consecutive years.

We were on the wrong side of the curve (and may still be):

Tax rates were too high.

(Excerpt) Read more at humaneventsonline.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bush; bush43; economicnews; economics; economist; growingeconomy; laffer; laffercurve; reagan; ronaldreagan; tax; taxes; taxrates; taxrevenue
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1 posted on 12/31/2005 8:45:33 AM PST by george76
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2 posted on 12/31/2005 8:46:21 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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3 posted on 12/31/2005 8:49:03 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Practically speaking, the tax rate should vary and not be a fixed value, but here is how it should work.

When the economy is good, the tax rate should slowly increase until the economy starts to slow down at which point it should start to slowly drop.

Higher taxes during a good economy will increase revenue, but increasing them without concern for the impact on the economy (as Clinton did) will result in a huge gap when the economy starts to fail and taxes continue to rise.

Much like Greenspan uses interest rate to drive the economy and inflation, tax rate could be used. It just has to be understood that lowering taxes stimulates the economy and raising taxes can slow the economy from overheating.


4 posted on 12/31/2005 9:00:55 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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Unfortunately, the optimum point on the Laffer curve can only be found by trial and error.


5 posted on 12/31/2005 9:04:16 AM PST by CPOSharky (Taxation WITH representation kinda sucks too.)
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The tax rate should be fixed. It should be set at a flat 20% rate.


6 posted on 12/31/2005 9:05:06 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: george76; remember
We were on the wrong side of the curve (and may still be):
Tax rates were too high.

Yes, it is true that Income Taxes are too high.
But we are too low on the Laffer Curve for tariffs.
We should be shifting our tax policy to lower the income tax by increasing the tax on imports.

The First Federal Revenue Law

On April 8, James Madison, once again a congressman from Virginia, addressed the House. He went right to the point. Congress, he said, must "remedy the evil" of "the deficiency in our Treasury." He argued that "[a] national revenue must be obtained," but not in a way "oppressive to our constituents." He then proposed that the House adopt legislation, virtually identical to the unimplemented Confederation tariff, imposing a five-percent tariff on all imports....

...A single, uniform tariff, he insisted, had two advantages. First, it could be imposed quickly, which was important because "the prospect of our harvest from the Spring importations is daily vanishing." Second, it was consistent with the principles of free trade ("commercial shackles," he said, "are generally unjust, oppressive, and impolitic")


7 posted on 12/31/2005 9:05:40 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Paloma_55

If the feds collect enough money to fund pork barrel projects then they have collected too much. THe less money they have the better. I would love to be able to direct my tax money to the budget items I care about; 50% military and national security and 50% to lock down the borders.


8 posted on 12/31/2005 9:06:17 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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I remember skunks Clinton and Gore calling the Laffer curver the laughing stock. Laffer has been amazingly accurate with his prediction model. Much more so than clintopervert and goofus.


9 posted on 12/31/2005 9:07:33 AM PST by putupjob
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To: CPOSharky

I agree but it doesn't really need to be optimum all the time.

The hard part is that Republicans won't admit that sometimes raising taxes is a good thing. When the economy is going nuts, raise taxes...not a lot, but enough to slow it down and increase revenues like the dickens. When the economy starts to slow, lower taxes. Depending on how fast you can respond to the economic news, it could be a controlling function.

Of course, Greenspan figured out that interest rates ARE a controlling function if used properly. I am gonna miss that man.


10 posted on 12/31/2005 9:07:55 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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I might agree with you on the premise that interest rates have proven to be a good controlling function for the economy. I was arguing that tax rates *could be* but the hard part is admitting that raising taxes in a hot economic time is a good thing. (to prevent over-capitalization and the resultant reduction in profits when the market slows down).

(See the tech bubble, real-estate bubble, etc)


11 posted on 12/31/2005 9:10:27 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: george76

Laffer was on Rush last week, a guest with Roger Hedgecock or Mark Billings, I forget which.


12 posted on 12/31/2005 9:11:14 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: Paloma_55
I agree but it doesn't really need to be optimum all the time.

It can't be optimum all the time because it is constantly moving.

13 posted on 12/31/2005 9:12:23 AM PST by CPOSharky (Taxation WITH representation kinda sucks too.)
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Economics: An impractical science with a trivial theory.


14 posted on 12/31/2005 9:12:27 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: george76
BUMP!
15 posted on 12/31/2005 9:12:59 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: george76

President Reagan actually had a degree in economics.


16 posted on 12/31/2005 9:13:01 AM PST by ansel12
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To: Willie Green

bttt


17 posted on 12/31/2005 9:13:32 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Dutch Boy

Shortly after my last post, I sorta realized that.

Another shortcoming of we Republicans is that we talk about cutting programs, but never really do it.

If I were making the rules, we would cut the federal government in half, increase the state by 10% and increase the city/and/or/county by 50%. We would come out ahead on taxes, but get better service.

The problem is, nobody at the local level ever wants to fund those holes created by a federal funding cut.


18 posted on 12/31/2005 9:14:30 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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Practically speaking, the tax rate should vary and not be a fixed value, but here is how it should work.

But the problem with that is that it isn't "free" to change the tax rates. Compliance costs change, and the benefits that come from the business community's reliance on a fixed rate diminish. The people who make economic decisions based on tax are less likely to act when there's another variable in the equation.
19 posted on 12/31/2005 9:15:36 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: CPOSharky

zaactly...

IMHO, "optimum" is not "on the spot" but the average distance from the spot is minimal.


20 posted on 12/31/2005 9:15:38 AM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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