Posted on 01/02/2006 12:46:30 AM PST by presidio9
Edited on 01/02/2006 12:58:14 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
Wow, no Guy Fawkes? How did he not make the list?
Washington was born in Virginia.
He was British until he decided not to be.
This is list is ridiculous. The whole process of making such lists is silly. It must have been a slow news day at the BBC.
What about Harris, the mad bomber of World War II?
What about Edward Longshanks?
What about any number of the Plantagenets (many of them my ancestors!)?
The other side of the coin is that the whole process of picking saints is silly. Let God judge, and let not men try to second guess, or usurp Him. Anyway, the faithful should not be praying for intercession to dead people.
<< Mosley was a bad guy and a friend of Mussolini, but did he have the same negative effect as, God forbid, Neville Chamberlin? >>
Mosley was far from the worst 20th Century Briton but Arthur Neville Chamberlain was not at all a bad man.
Rather, Mr Chamberlain's sin was that he so faithfully represented his electorate.
The electorate, that is, comprised as it was then and is now of the morbidly-in-denial heads-up-the-bum morons and of effeminate, emasculated and homosexualized milksop appeasers. And their riding-crop cracking, be-jodhpured mothers.
Interesting post, thanks. Aethelred the Unready was one of the all-time worst, in my opinion. A great appeaser, far ahead of his time.
>>A saint cannot be a catholic, they must be a Christian only.<<
>>A saint cannot be a catholic, they must be a Christian only.<<
>>A saint cannot be a catholic, they must be a Christian only.<<
LOL! Here's one!
<< I'd go for somebody like Edward VIII myself- he managed to spark a consitutional crisis through being a selfish idiot, and was altogether a little too cosy for comfort with Hitler aftwerwards. Or, one of the trade union leaders of the 70's- Jakc Jones, "Red Robbo" or similar. The amount of damage any of those three did to Britain was far greater then Mosley, who although a bete noire was never a threat. >>
Clement Atlee would be a good pick, too and a geurnsey goes to Snatcher 'Hong Kong' Snatcher, whose son and members of whose cabinet profited obscenely from her craven surrender into serfdom and slavery of Once-FRee-British Hong Kong's seven and a half million Once FRee British Hong Kong Citizens and their Trillions of Dollars of wealth ranks up there with Churchill's Gallipoli campaign and surrender of Singapore and Churchill's and Roosevelt's 1945 surrender of all of Eastern Europe's subsequent slaves to the gulags and to Stalin's Soviets' surrogate slaughterers.
But Mosley was more an eccentric dickhead than ever a threat and if the only measure of a society was its treatment of its eccentrics, Britain, rather than having degenerated into a squalidly-fascissocialistic offshore satellite state of the other Europeons' neo-Soviet, would have ever been up there with the best of nations.
Oh goody. The daily Catholic bashing thread.
This list doesn't include Cromwell and Henry VIII, two of British history's great murderers?? I wouldn't pay much heed to it.
<< >> A saint cannot be a Catholic, they [sic] must be a Christian only. <<
LOL! Here's one! >>
Had the poster of that piece of bigoted piffle been either a Catholic or a Christian she'd quite likely, during her formative years, have been exposed to a Good Catholic or similar education and thus to grammar and punctuation and syntax.
Amen!
This is what I was told when I tried to point Catholic Bashing out....
"Last time I checked, this was a public forum and a primarliy secular forum. If you post anything here regarding your church practices or doctrine you should be prepared to defend it. All solitas did was to question whether or not he might state that the whole idea of a confessional was not necessarily scriptural without being flamed and the next thing you know he was accused of hijacking the thread. (which of course means, NO!)
If you want to post your threads so that they are not open to discussion by anyone other than catholics, I'd suggest you take these threads over to some exclusive Catholic blog or discussion board.
As far as I am concerned, if you don't like the fact that these threads are open to people of all faiths, including those who disagree with your doctrine and practices, then maybe you should find another discussion forum. A private, members-only Catholic forum. I'm sure there's plenty of those out there."
SO, this means that no matter what we post, Being rude and questioning Dogma is fair game. Not like anyone would question the Dogma on the Jewish threads but..........
If that's a joke, I don't get it.
Longshanks was one of the strongest kings England ever had and a very good one from English perspective.
A "Saint," is someone officially recognized as definitely (probably ... in all likelihood, etc.)having gone to Heaven. That's all. The rest is theater.
On a strictly theoretical, theological level, this "official recognition," is non-denominational. However, the Pope traditionally makes the most of the opportunity to certify dead folks as "Saints."
The Bishop of Rome and his organization may be the best at the "Saint" process, but they certainly are not alone. If one should survive drinking strychnine or snakebite at a service in West Virginia, or be from Salt Lake City, the Pope might not be unduly impressed, but other saint-sanctioning bodies will take up the slack.
No, that would be the guy who plays Mr. Bean. This is why mimes are only popular in France.
A mullah cannot be a sunni, they must be a Muslim only.
Thanks for the ping! A saint is a bad guy? Cromwell must be a good guy....
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