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To: hosepipe; Alamo-Girl; marron; Fester Chugabrew; PatrickHenry
But how fast is spirit?.. or does spirit transcend speed..?

One attribute of God is said to be omnipresence: He is everywhere at once, so "speed" cannot be a factor.

Which observation actually received a scientific treatment, from Sir Isaac Newton no less. It was speculative and controversial in his own time, and still is.

According to Newton's conjecture, God's omnipresence is the determinative factor of Absolute Space, which Newton (unlike Descartes and Leibnitz) conceived of as absolutely "empty." Absolute Space is the manifestation of what Newton called the sensorium Dei, which might be imagined as a sort of universal field that arises from the eternal omnipresence of "God with his creatures," as Newton put it. Newton said that Absolute Space must be empty -- A-G, your Ayn Sof here??? -- in order to "make room" for the coming-into-being of all phenomena in the Universe, which manifest from the creative will of God. For Newton, Space as primary construct is indivisible, universal, and as eternal as God Who produces it, as the primary manifestation of His contact with the universe of created things, via the sensorium Dei of the God Who is "the Lord of Life, with his creatures."

Pretty wild, huh? I bet few folks around here would ever have suspected that the great theorist of mechanics would say such a thing.

1,018 posted on 01/07/2006 11:12:34 AM PST by betty boop (Dominus illuminatio mea.)
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To: betty boop; hosepipe; Fester Chugabrew; marron; PatrickHenry
Thank you so much for your excellent essay-post!

A-G, your Ayn Sof here???

The Hebrew phrase used by Jewish mystics to describe God as the Creator is Ayn Sof which essentially means "no thing" or "One without end from which all being emerges and into which all being dissolves."

The concept comports well with cosmology and geometric physics. The void in which there had to have been a beginning of physical reality (regardless of cosmology) - has no space, no time, no energy, no matter, no physical laws, no physical constants, no logic, no mathematics, no qualia, etc. - no thing - including most especially no physical causation.

The void is singular and transcendent - Ayn Sof. Only God can be the uncaused cause of "all that there is".

1,020 posted on 01/07/2006 11:28:34 AM PST by Alamo-Girl (Monthly is the best way to donate to Free Republic!)
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To: betty boop
[ Pretty wild, huh? I bet few folks around here would ever have suspected that the great theorist of mechanics would say such a thing. ]

So cool.. I missed that about Newton completely.. NOW we are starting to talk serious talk.. This conversation is groovy.. Isaac would've been a hoot to talk too.. Its so hard to find a good mechanic.. once located its best to hang on to him.. LoL.. Most mechanics are left or right of top dead center, if you know what I mean..

Its about timing.. which is far more important than time.. far more important.. Thanks I loved that little piece above.. got any more?... Yeah I be greedy..

1,021 posted on 01/07/2006 11:33:34 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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