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Windows XP Home: obsolete sooner than you expect
Ars Technica ^ | 3 January 2006 | Ken "Caesar" Fisher

Posted on 01/04/2006 9:59:39 AM PST by ShadowAce

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To: steve-b

Good point. And they've shown they realize it the way they forced SP-2 on everyone, more or less whether they liked it or not.


121 posted on 01/04/2006 1:00:13 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: N3WBI3
"... I would like to point out there are almost as many desktop Linux users as there are Mac Users.."

Duly noted, and I would like to point out that one of the two operating systems is given away for free.

122 posted on 01/04/2006 1:04:06 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
I'm really starting to think of getting a mac.

Wait for the new Intel Macs. Coming this year.

123 posted on 01/04/2006 1:15:55 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: ShadowAce

Some friends of mine are already running the new Windows "Longhorn" version. (What will eventually be called "Vista")

Looks alot like XP but I have not had a chance to play with it much. I may install it on ald old spare laptop I have, so I can poke around a bit and check it out. Not sure how much like the beta the final version will be. /shrug


124 posted on 01/04/2006 1:16:45 PM PST by Bones75
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To: Right Wing Assault
I got infected with Spy Sheriff about 9 months ago. That's my personal favorite. Really messes up the computer all to hell. It's fun going through the registry to find and delete all the rogue keys. I learn something new every time I'm infected.
125 posted on 01/04/2006 1:24:26 PM PST by jdm (jdm74.com/serena-maneesh.mp3)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I pay for good software, keep it updated, buy new versions when they make sense and I never have a bit of trouble with it.

The problem is that Vista has been delayed so much that there will be very little overlap between the end of support for XP Home and the arrival of Vista. Under the current schedule, a person could buy a Dell in September and find four months later that his OS support is gone (Vista may ship OEM in October, if there are no more delays). That's just bad by anyone's standards.

I believe Microsoft will do the right thing and extend XP Home support some reasonable time into the availability of Vista.

Of course, this whole thing supports what I've always said -- stay away from XP Home.

126 posted on 01/04/2006 1:25:45 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Bones75

I've already looked at it (month ago)-- its horrible. SLOW, SLOW, SLOW -- very large footprint -- very clunky -- nothing worked -- from network copy to renaming simple files to find -- it really irritated me. Its how many years late?


127 posted on 01/04/2006 1:26:58 PM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
As for XP being "NT5.1", can't make a generality like that when theres XP Home out there.

Think of XP Home as NT 5.1 Lite. It's the same OS, just various capabilities have been removed.

128 posted on 01/04/2006 1:27:30 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I haven't had trouble with it, but if I did, and the Vista product wasn't available... I'd upgrade to XP Pro.

But I think they'll end up doing the right thing too. Contrary to popular insult, they aren't the dominant force in software for being unresponsive to customer demand.


129 posted on 01/04/2006 1:27:44 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Win2k Advanced Server was a major jump. Great OS, IMO.

Try 2003 Server. It's at least the difference between 4.0 and 2000, even more especially when it comes to security.

130 posted on 01/04/2006 1:29:27 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: TXBSAFH
It happens with legacy equipment. Did you try to run it on an emulator on XP pro? I know of people who have had success with that.

There's still a lot of stuff that won't run on anything but the original. I had RIP (Raster Image Processor) software that would only run on Windows 95, absolutely nothing else. Too many programmers like to play fast and loose with APIs, and their stuff breaks at the next OS revision. I know diabetes software that checked available disk space directly, so freaked when faced with a FAT 32 disk. There was also my old Atari 800XL, where some older apps designed to the quirks of the original 400/800 OS failed because of the revisions in the newer OS, and I had to load the old OS from disk (the original is in ROM) to use them.

131 posted on 01/04/2006 1:36:28 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: aft_lizard
And you can call me when Mac makes it for all x86 processors and not just Intel.

And then be stuck with one of the main causes of Windows crashes, bad third-party drivers and hardware? I hope not.

132 posted on 01/04/2006 1:37:59 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

If you are running XP, fire up a command prompt and see what version number it reports.


133 posted on 01/04/2006 1:40:51 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: antiRepublicrat

You are right, but sometimes it will work, some it won't.


134 posted on 01/04/2006 1:41:32 PM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: Paleo Conservative
XP is quite a bit slower and offers very little benefit over 2000.

It really depends. You can kill all the XP eye candy* and shut off new services to get some speed. And then there's the fact that 2000 can't take advantage of Intel's SMT ("Hyperthreading").

* And not through the desktop properties. Actually disable the Themes service.

135 posted on 01/04/2006 1:42:05 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: TXBSAFH
Linux is the ultimate windows service pack.

I don't consider shutting down 95% of the apps I use a "service" at all.

136 posted on 01/04/2006 1:48:49 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: TXBSAFH
Hey do you know of someone who makes a laptop with a decent linux release on it?

Linux on Laptops

137 posted on 01/04/2006 1:50:25 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Trust in the YHvH for ever, for the LORD, YHvH is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
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To: MineralMan

Regrettably, virtual sex seems to be as much a virus vector as the real thing. ;-)


138 posted on 01/04/2006 1:52:49 PM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: ShadowAce
Can Microsoft get away with this sort of thing much longer? Linux still isn't ready for the average home user, but it will be eventually. And there are still rumors out there that Steve Jobs is planning to eventually allow the Intel-based OS X run on non-Apple machines, after he moves more of Apple's revenue stream into iPod/consumer electronics-related stuff. Even Google is rumored to be working on some sort of weird OS.

In any case, the day where your Intel-based PC will only run Windows is rapidly coming to a close. And when that happens, people aren't going to just upgrade because Bill Gates orders them to do so.

139 posted on 01/04/2006 1:57:59 PM PST by Dont Mention the War (This tagline is false.)
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To: antiRepublicrat; Petronski

ack! keep reading; i made a mistake thinking of the os versions; i mentioned it later. anyone who knows me and knows what I do for a living know that I am aware of MS's versions, etc.


140 posted on 01/04/2006 2:01:54 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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