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Claims of secondhand smoke risks don't pass science test
United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | 1-4-06 | Audrey Silk

Posted on 01/05/2006 6:57:14 AM PST by SheLion

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To: Gabz
You know and I know that Audrey knows what she is talking about.............but alas, most will just ignore it.

I was really happy that the newspaper picked it up.  She sent it out to a bunch of different ones.  I hope more will follow suit.

61 posted on 01/05/2006 10:16:47 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: jjmcgo

Hey, old buddy. New Jersey goes non-smoking next week. I'm five miles over the border in PA. I now live on a frontier!!!
I bet I'll have trouble getting a seat in my favorite bar, four miles from NJ.

"Ole buddy?"  hehe

Where did you hear that NJ is going smoke free next week?


62 posted on 01/05/2006 10:25:00 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: T.Smith; SheLion

"second hand smoke still disgusting and obnoxious"




You might want to qualify that smoke is disgusting to you,and probably many others,but that it is NOT that way for all people.

Painting with a rather broad brush,aren't you?


63 posted on 01/05/2006 10:38:56 AM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: Gabz

More than one smoke Gnatzi has claimed my child would be better off had I had an abortion instead of being born to parents who happen to smoke."



God almighty,words fail me !


64 posted on 01/05/2006 10:41:10 AM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: Stu Cohen
I see at least 2 flicked out the window at stoplight daily. Never seen 2 soda cans causally flicked out the window daily, but perhaps it happens.

I despise anything being thrown out of a car window.........and I have actually stopped my car and made a passenger get out and retreive a butt thrown out the window.

As to the soda cans, my property has 500 feet of road frontage.....I pick more than 2 a day out of my yard and the ditch, just by my driveway........and I won't get into the beer bottles or other alcoholic beverage containers, as well as fast food containers. Butts get chopped up with the tractor - everything else I have to pick up by hand.

65 posted on 01/05/2006 10:42:24 AM PST by Gabz
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To: Mears
You might want to qualify that smoke is disgusting to you,and probably many others,but that it is NOT that way for all people.

Painting with a rather broad brush,aren't you?

Every time someone says that, they seem to think that just because they think this way, it is true.  Well, if "I" found smoking to STINK so bad, I would surely quit.

I remember once I lit up a cigarette and my mom said "Oh that smells so good!"  So, all cigarettes do NOT stink.  I rarely find one that does.

I know that sometimes, a cigarette can smell like burnt socks.  But that hasn't happened in a long time.  I think it was just something in the tobacco. :)

66 posted on 01/05/2006 10:42:57 AM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: T.Smith

The amokers are hanging around the front door?

Why?





67 posted on 01/05/2006 10:45:35 AM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: SheLion
I hope more will follow suit.

I agree with you.

68 posted on 01/05/2006 10:47:00 AM PST by Gabz
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To: SheLion
City Bans Smoking On Walking Trails
By News 8 WMTW
POSTED: 10:14 am EDT September 20, 2005
UPDATED: 10:18 am EDT September 20, 2005
PORTLAND, Maine -- State law already bans smoking in most bars and other public spaces. Now smokers in Portland are facing more limits on where they can light up.
The Portland City Council Monday voted to ban smoking on the walking trails along the city’s Eastern and Western promenades and the Back Cove.
Councilor Peter O’Donnell proposed the ban but softened it Monday with an amendment that would eliminate the fines -- which were as high as $250 -- in the original proposal.
Instead, city leaders as simply asking people to obey the new ordinance voluntarily.
O’Donnell told News 8, "I think some kind of signage -- I think at the trails and the promenade -- that would say, ‘We encourage you not to smoke in these recreational areas.’ would suffice."
He said smokers have already been hit hard enough in the wallet since Monday’s $1 increase in the state cigarette tax.
69 posted on 01/05/2006 10:47:56 AM PST by MRMEAN (Corruptisima republica plurimae leges. -- Tacitus)
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To: SheLion

The whole anti-smoking jihad does not pass the smell test. Consider: 42 years ago when U. S. Surgeon General found a "causal link" between cigarette smoking and lung cancer almost 8 out of 10 Americans smoked. The anti-smoking war began.

Today smoking is not only not socially acceptable it is inconvenient and expensive. Today only about 4 in 10 Americans smoke cigarettes.

Question: has the incidence of lung cancer gone down in proportion to the decline in the number of people smoking?

Answer: No. According to the CDC (Center for Disease Control), even adjusting for population growth, the incidences of lung cancer has gone up.

What will the anti-smoking zealots do now? Will their next jihad be "Light up and prevent lung Cancer."

Perhaps we owe Joe Camel an apology.


70 posted on 01/05/2006 10:49:22 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Mears

One of the very few times I have ever used the "abuse" feature on FR was against a troll who showed up here and said that........that was about 2 or 3 years ago, and was the last time I hit the abuse button.


71 posted on 01/05/2006 10:49:28 AM PST by Gabz
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To: SheLion

The whole anti-smoking jihad does not pass the smell test. Consider: 42 years ago when U. S. Surgeon General found a "causal link" between cigarette smoking and lung cancer almost 8 out of 10 Americans smoked. The anti-smoking war began.

Today smoking is not only not socially acceptable it is inconvenient and expensive. Today only about 4 in 10 Americans smoke cigarettes.

Question: has the incidence of lung cancer gone down in proportion to the decline in the number of people smoking?

Answer: No. According to the CDC (Center for Disease Control), even adjusting for population growth, the incidences of lung cancer has gone up.

What will the anti-smoking zealots do now? Will their next jihad be "Light up and prevent lung Cancer."

Perhaps we owe Joe Camel an apology.


72 posted on 01/05/2006 10:49:48 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: SheLion

The whole anti-smoking jihad does not pass the smell test. Consider: 42 years ago when U. S. Surgeon General found a "causal link" between cigarette smoking and lung cancer almost 8 out of 10 Americans smoked. The anti-smoking war began.

Today smoking is not only not socially acceptable it is inconvenient and expensive. Today only about 4 in 10 Americans smoke cigarettes.

Question: has the incidence of lung cancer gone down in proportion to the decline in the number of people smoking?

Answer: No. According to the CDC (Center for Disease Control), even adjusting for population growth, the incidences of lung cancer has gone up.

What will the anti-smoking zealots do now? Will their next jihad be "Light up and prevent lung Cancer."

Perhaps we owe Joe Camel an apology.


73 posted on 01/05/2006 10:50:11 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: SheLion

The whole anti-smoking jihad does not pass the smell test. Consider: 42 years ago when U. S. Surgeon General found a "causal link" between cigarette smoking and lung cancer almost 8 out of 10 Americans smoked. The anti-smoking war began.

Today smoking is not only not socially acceptable it is inconvenient and expensive. Today only about 4 in 10 Americans smoke cigarettes.

Question: has the incidence of lung cancer gone down in proportion to the decline in the number of people smoking?

Answer: No. According to the CDC (Center for Disease Control), even adjusting for population growth, the incidences of lung cancer has gone up.

What will the anti-smoking zealots do now? Will their next jihad be "Light up and prevent lung Cancer."

Perhaps we owe Joe Camel an apology.


74 posted on 01/05/2006 10:50:25 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: SheLion

The whole anti-smoking jihad does not pass the smell test. Consider: 42 years ago when U. S. Surgeon General found a "causal link" between cigarette smoking and lung cancer almost 8 out of 10 Americans smoked. The anti-smoking war began.

Today smoking is not only not socially acceptable it is inconvenient and expensive. Today only about 4 in 10 Americans smoke cigarettes.

Question: has the incidence of lung cancer gone down in proportion to the decline in the number of people smoking?

Answer: No. According to the CDC (Center for Disease Control), even adjusting for population growth, the incidences of lung cancer has gone up.

What will the anti-smoking zealots do now? Will their next jihad be "Light up and prevent lung Cancer."

Perhaps we owe Joe Camel an apology.


75 posted on 01/05/2006 10:50:46 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: SheLion

The whole anti-smoking jihad does not pass the smell test. Consider: 42 years ago when U. S. Surgeon General found a "causal link" between cigarette smoking and lung cancer almost 8 out of 10 Americans smoked. The anti-smoking war began.

Today smoking is not only not socially acceptable it is inconvenient and expensive. Today only about 4 in 10 Americans smoke cigarettes.

Question: has the incidence of lung cancer gone down in proportion to the decline in the number of people smoking?

Answer: No. According to the CDC (Center for Disease Control), even adjusting for population growth, the incidences of lung cancer has gone up.

What will the anti-smoking zealots do now? Will their next jihad be "Light up and prevent lung Cancer."

Perhaps we owe Joe Camel an apology.


76 posted on 01/05/2006 10:51:09 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: SheLion

The whole anti-smoking jihad does not pass the smell test. Consider: 42 years ago when U. S. Surgeon General found a "causal link" between cigarette smoking and lung cancer almost 8 out of 10 Americans smoked. The anti-smoking war began.

Today smoking is not only not socially acceptable it is inconvenient and expensive. Today only about 4 in 10 Americans smoke cigarettes.

Question: has the incidence of lung cancer gone down in proportion to the decline in the number of people smoking?

Answer: No. According to the CDC (Center for Disease Control), even adjusting for population growth, the incidences of lung cancer has gone up.

What will the anti-smoking zealots do now? Will their next jihad be "Light up and prevent lung Cancer."

Perhaps we owe Joe Camel an apology.


77 posted on 01/05/2006 10:51:31 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: SheLion

The whole anti-smoking jihad does not pass the smell test. Consider: 42 years ago when U. S. Surgeon General found a "causal link" between cigarette smoking and lung cancer almost 8 out of 10 Americans smoked. The anti-smoking war began.

Today smoking is not only not socially acceptable it is inconvenient and expensive. Today only about 4 in 10 Americans smoke cigarettes.

Question: has the incidence of lung cancer gone down in proportion to the decline in the number of people smoking?

Answer: No. According to the CDC (Center for Disease Control), even adjusting for population growth, the incidences of lung cancer has gone up.

What will the anti-smoking zealots do now? Will their next jihad be "Light up and prevent lung Cancer."

Perhaps we owe Joe Camel an apology.


78 posted on 01/05/2006 10:51:48 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: SheLion

The whole anti-smoking jihad does not pass the smell test. Consider: 42 years ago when U. S. Surgeon General found a "causal link" between cigarette smoking and lung cancer almost 8 out of 10 Americans smoked. The anti-smoking war began.

Today smoking is not only not socially acceptable it is inconvenient and expensive. Today only about 4 in 10 Americans smoke cigarettes.

Question: has the incidence of lung cancer gone down in proportion to the decline in the number of people smoking?

Answer: No. According to the CDC (Center for Disease Control), even adjusting for population growth, the incidences of lung cancer has gone up.

What will the anti-smoking zealots do now? Will their next jihad be "Light up and prevent lung Cancer."

Perhaps we owe Joe Camel an apology.


79 posted on 01/05/2006 10:52:05 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: SheLion

The whole anti-smoking jihad does not pass the smell test. Consider: 42 years ago when U. S. Surgeon General found a "causal link" between cigarette smoking and lung cancer almost 8 out of 10 Americans smoked. The anti-smoking war began.

Today smoking is not only not socially acceptable it is inconvenient and expensive. Today only about 4 in 10 Americans smoke cigarettes.

Question: has the incidence of lung cancer gone down in proportion to the decline in the number of people smoking?

Answer: No. According to the CDC (Center for Disease Control), even adjusting for population growth, the incidences of lung cancer has gone up.

What will the anti-smoking zealots do now? Will their next jihad be "Light up and prevent lung Cancer."

Perhaps we owe Joe Camel an apology.


80 posted on 01/05/2006 10:52:24 AM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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