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Spying, CNN and the Kerry campaign: Is there a there there? [Did GW spy on CNN reporter & Kerry?]
Salon - Politics/War Room ^ | Jan 5, 2006 | Tim Grieve

Posted on 01/05/2006 12:43:20 PM PST by summer

It gets curiouser and curiouser.

As we noted Wednesday, [a liberal site] noticed an odd moment in Andrea Mitchell's interview this week with New York Times reporter James Risen: While interviewing Risen about his new book and revelations that George W. Bush authorized warrantless spying on American citizens, Mitchell asked Risen if he had any information suggesting that CNN's international correspondent, Christiane Amanpour, "might have been eavesdropped upon." Risen said he didn't. But as [the liberal site] surmised, the question certainly suggested that Mitchell did.

Right about the time the [liberal site's] theory started floating through the blogosphere, somebody deleted Mitchell's question and Risen's answer from the transcript posted on MSNBC's Web site. We said we'd like to hear an explanation, and TVNewser actually went to the trouble of getting one. "Unfortunately this transcript was released prematurely," reads a statement TVNewser says it got from NBC. "It was a topic on which we had not completed our reporting, and it was not broadcast on 'NBC Nightly News' nor on any other NBC News program. We removed that section of the transcript so that we may further continue our inquiry."

Assuming the statement is legitimate, that sure seems to us like a long way of saying, "Yeah, we're looking into the possibility that the Bush administration was eavesdropping on Christiane Amanpour."

Now, it's probably time for a deep breath and some patience here. What we've got here is some reading between the lines, and it's about a question, not an answer. But as we said yesterday, if the answer is ultimately answered in the affirmative -- that is, if the Bush administration has indeed been listening in on Amanpour's phone -- the implications are enormous. We don't much like the idea that the government might be listening in on the conversations of a reporter. And Amanpour isn't just any reporter: She is married to Jamie Rubin, a State Department spokesman under Bill Clinton and a foreign policy advisor to John Kerry's presidential campaign. If the Bush administration was listening in on Amanpour's phone, was it listening when she talked with her husband? Was it listening when he might have used her phone himself?

Again, what we've got here are hints about a question. We're a long way from an answer. But when you start circumventing Congress and the courts and begin to spy on Americans in a way that you insist you aren't, you invite questions like these. And along the way, you invite people to think about the last time some people who worked for a president tried to spy on the opposition.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amanpour; americahaters; bushhaters; clintonnewsnetwork; cnn; gw; kerry; lurch; patriotleak; spying
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To: summer
Again, what we've got here are hints about a question.

what they have are hints about a question or what they are doing is grasping at straws since Risen definitively said he had no information?

Maybe it was removed because it was a careless question to ask...why no ask if chuck schiester has been spying on would-be Republican candidates; there is more of a basis for that question based on known events....this is nothing more then rat conspiracy and wishful thinking...
21 posted on 01/05/2006 12:52:42 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Darkwolf377

But do reporters even know when they are talking to terrorists? Or are reporters subject to being duped by terrorists? That is something one has to consider, too. I, too, agree this would normally bother me if true, but, reporters seem like perfect targets of terrorists wanting to get "their side" of the story out. And, I am not sure that reporters have a list of terrorists like the US govt does. It seems to me there are likely times when a reporter talking to foreigners really has no idea the actual background of those foreigners. So there is, perhaps, a worthy case to be made on both sides here, in the context of the current times.


23 posted on 01/05/2006 12:54:29 PM PST by summer
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To: Pondman88
Of course, being a reporter doesn't mean you've got the right to freely talk to terrorists the government is trying to apprehend.

If she attempted to contact a terrorist for an interview, and wiretapping her phone assisted in finding his hideout, that's a legitimate attempt to flush out a terrorist.

But you know that when this story breaks we will have a flood of "Impeachment" calls.

24 posted on 01/05/2006 12:54:41 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: marlon

I like the idea that these losers are getting all sorts of paranoid about this, though.


25 posted on 01/05/2006 12:55:10 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Said the night wind to the little lamb . . . "Do you see what I see?")
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To: diznay4evr
"I'd- authorize spying on Christiane Amanpour."

I would to, provided no topless beaches were involved.

26 posted on 01/05/2006 12:55:54 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: summer

I would think a reporter would know if she's talking to a terrorist. Why else would she be talking to a terrorist--as a source? I imagine CA has attempted many times to get interviews with certain terrorists.


27 posted on 01/05/2006 12:55:56 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: summer
along the way, you invite people to think about the last time some people who worked for a president tried to spy on the opposition.

Does being first Lady count as an "employee"? Thinking of Craig Livingstone, who was the go-to man when Hillary Rodham's staff ordered up FBI files to be sent to her "office" for opposition research.... ex-FBI Director Louis Freeh can undoubtedly name other names of presidential employees who spied on the opposition. Come to think of it, so could Janet Reno's former staff...
28 posted on 01/05/2006 12:56:43 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Darkwolf377

There are probably times when a reporter does know the interviewee is a terrorist, but I am guessing that knowledge does not always exist for the reporter.


29 posted on 01/05/2006 12:56:58 PM PST by summer
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To: summer

Seems to me that since not one person has stepped forward to complain re: "spying", one has to be invented for all the "what ifs" and "this could happen to you" and "IMPEACH" and etc.


30 posted on 01/05/2006 12:58:53 PM PST by synbad600
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To: summer

Maybe they wondered if sKerry was still staying in touch with his old communist buddies from his Viet Nam glory days.


31 posted on 01/05/2006 12:59:24 PM PST by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: Alberta's Child

Yeah, and the flood of ACLU full-page NYT ads calling GW a liar has not slowed down one bit. I think they really believe they can make a case for impeachment, but I also think that is a real long-shot because of the actual legal expansion of presidential powers during war time.


32 posted on 01/05/2006 1:00:00 PM PST by summer
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To: Darkwolf377
I have to admit, it would disturb me that we are bugging reporters.

We aren't bugging or wiretapping, we're eavesdropping (catching airwaves) of individuals in foreign lands calling known terrorists and their sympethizers in our country. If we catch "reporters" in this snare... too bad for them.

33 posted on 01/05/2006 1:00:06 PM PST by pgyanke (The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: summer
I think it is a smart move to listen in on some reporters phone calls to and from foreign countries. How many times have we seen video of a road side bomb going off, or a planted bomb in a public place going off?

How and why did the journalist with the video camera have his camera pointed at that area with the bomb at the time they didn't when there was nothing worth videoing going on prior to the explosion?

34 posted on 01/05/2006 1:00:42 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: summer

I am curious. Why is CNN and Salon not at all intrested in investigating the proven corrdination between CBS and the Kerry Campaign in fruadlent Rathergate story? Seems they are more intrested in MAKING UP accusations instead of investigating REAL corruption. Why is that?


35 posted on 01/05/2006 1:01:54 PM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: pgyanke
We aren't bugging or wiretapping

Calm down, your distinction has been noted. I don't like eavesdropping on reporters, happy now?

36 posted on 01/05/2006 1:03:27 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (The first and great commandment is: Don't let them scare you. --Elmer Davis)
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To: Darkwolf377
I have to admit, it would disturb me that we are bugging reporters

See my post #34.

Reporters seem to magically be "at the right place at the right time" to capture images of some things.

And remember early on in the war when a group of journalists were approached by terrorists and the terrorists tipped them off that a convoy of American troops would be coming through shortly and they were going to attack them? Then the group of reporters took a position to capture the attack, but didn't warn the coming American forces!

There is good reason to eavesdrop on some reporters who clearly have contact with our enemies if it is known they have contact with them.

37 posted on 01/05/2006 1:04:30 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: summer

So what if they did? Amanpour and the RATS are in bed with the terrorists.


38 posted on 01/05/2006 1:04:46 PM PST by balch3
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To: Darkwolf377
Calm down, your distinction has been noted. I don't like eavesdropping on reporters, happy now?

I don't recall reporters too upset when Newt's private phone conversations were eavesdropped on. The media ran with the story with glee. No concern for privacy then.

39 posted on 01/05/2006 1:09:04 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Darkwolf377
I don't like eavesdropping on reporters, happy now?

It clarifies your position but I think it is a foolish one. Reporter is an entry-level position that any green-on-the-vine graduate can fill. FR is filled with examples of the subversive dealings of the MSM, how many reporters are actually Muhammed Attas writing stories to discredit the one man on earth with the combination of vision and nuts to go after them?

If a reporter needs monitoring, we'd better be monitoring! They aren't some class of human exempt of suspicion.

40 posted on 01/05/2006 1:09:17 PM PST by pgyanke (The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.)
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