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Mexico denies high numbers of deserters [Los Zetas]
KansasCity.com/Dallas Morning News ^ | Jan. 05, 2006 | ALFREDO CORCHADO AND IRENE BARCENAS

Posted on 01/06/2006 11:37:42 AM PST by SwinneySwitch

MEXICO CITY - Mexico's military denied that its soldiers are deserting in high numbers and joining organized crime groups and said that low pay plays no role in any such defections.

Desertion rates in Mexico are no different from what they are in other countries, including the United States, a military spokesman said in a letter to The Dallas Morning News.

The faxed letter was a response to questions posed by The News last month for a report on concerns expressed by U.S. officials about corruption in the Mexican military.

"It's strange that American officials would express worries over the situation because just a few years ago soldiers there served for only a year, after which they became inactive ... such as occurs in various countries in the world," the letter stated.

"... Any soldier who commits the crime of desertion and runs from the law for more than three months is discharged from the military ... as a result of which, this ministry has no link with them, or with any activity they engage in afterwards, which makes it impossible to express an opinion on that subject," wrote the spokesman, who requested anonymity.

Asked to provide desertion rates for the Mexican army, the spokesman declined, saying that he needed time to obtain those figures. But he added that the 18,033 desertions posted on a military Web site for the period September 2004 to June 2005 were considered official.

Mexico's active military force is 194,000, according to Defense Minister Ricardo Clemente Vega Garcia, so 18,000 desertions would represent a rate of about 9 percent.

A U.S. Army spokeswoman, Lt. Col. Pamela Hart, said the desertion rate among the nation's total enlisted force of 413,515 (as of April 2005), was less than 1 percent, which she said was consistent over the past three years.

In interviews last month, four senior U.S. officials, a senior Mexican intelligence official and three independent analysts said there are new signs that drug corruption is spreading within the Mexican military.

Mexico's military has long been regarded as more professional and less prone to criminality than the country's law enforcement agencies.

The officials expressed concern about the expanding role of the Mexican military in the nation's efforts against drug traffickers. Some officials said low salaries in middle and lower ranks make personnel vulnerable to offers from cartel leaders.

During testimony before a subcommittee of Mexico's Senate last September, Gen. Vega was asked about desertions.

"The majority of them are deserters, and they move unfortunately in the life of the drug trafficker, which is drinking, women, music and new trucks. I can tell you from our intelligence information that there are 18 deserters in Tamaulipas (state) and about 15 to 20 in Sinaloa. That's all there are, really."

The Mexican military spokesman said pay scales are authorized by the Finance Ministry and that those wages include benefits such as life insurance, housing, medical coverage and retirement pension funds.

"As a result of that (pay and benefits) we don't believe this is a determining factor for those who decide to end their active service," the statement said. "The majority of desertions are a result of the difficulty of the individuals to adapt themselves to military life, especially recruits."

Concerns about the military were underscored in a video sent to The News last fall and described in a Dec. 1 article. The video shows four men, bound, bloodied and prompted by an unseen interrogator, talking about their work for a drug cartel. Two of the four identified themselves as former military men and said their job was to recruit personnel for the cartel from Mexico's special forces.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Missouri; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; deserters; drugcartels; immigration; loszetas; mexico; zetas
"...18,000 desertions would represent a rate of about 9 percent."

That's 18,033 desertions for the period September 2004 to June 2005, which is only 10 months. Carried out to 12 months would result in an desertion rate of 11 percent a year!

1 posted on 01/06/2006 11:37:45 AM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch
Did someone say "Zeta"?


2 posted on 01/06/2006 11:41:23 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: SwinneySwitch

"that those wages include benefits such as life insurance, housing, medical coverage and retirement pension funds."

Doesn't mean much to a man in his mid-twenties.

Low pay used to be a scandal in the US armed forces (some soldiers had to collect welfare payments).

I don't know the situtaion in Mexico, but perhaps a simple wage in crease for the lowest ranks might help?


3 posted on 01/06/2006 11:42:27 AM PST by CondorFlight
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To: SwinneySwitch
"... Any soldier who commits the crime of desertion and runs from the law for more than three months is discharged from the military ... as a result of which, this ministry has no link with them, or with any activity they engage in afterwards, which makes it impossible to express an opinion on that subject," wrote the spokesman, who requested anonymity.

Wow, discharge from the military for 3 months AWOL, and I guess no other penalties. These guys are hard core.

"So long and thanks for the training and nice machine gun, suckers."

4 posted on 01/06/2006 11:45:28 AM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; BigTex5; Ann de IL; Sterco; voiceinthewind; calrighty; tall_tex; ...

Los Zetas Ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.


5 posted on 01/06/2006 11:46:54 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (¡Feliz Año Nuevo!)
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To: VRWCmember
Mmmm...

Dessert.

Damn you Michael Douglas!

6 posted on 01/06/2006 11:50:12 AM PST by Hoplite
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To: VRWCmember

Los Zetas, not Zeta-Jones!


7 posted on 01/06/2006 11:50:57 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (¡Feliz Año Nuevo!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Lo Siento. Mi malo.


8 posted on 01/06/2006 11:52:07 AM PST by VRWCmember
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To: SwinneySwitch

"It's strange that American officials would express worries over the situation because just a few years ago soldiers there served for only a year, after which they became inactive ..

I'm not aware of that ever happening.The shortest enlistment I'm aware of was 2 years.


9 posted on 01/06/2006 11:57:09 AM PST by ansel12
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To: SwinneySwitch
Los Zetas

Does that mean plural?




10 posted on 01/06/2006 12:01:55 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: SwinneySwitch

Screw Los Zeta -- MORAS Zeta-Jones POR FAVOR !!!!


11 posted on 01/06/2006 1:33:46 PM PST by PetroniDE (We Don't Live in Texas Anymore --- State Name is Now TAXES !!)
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To: PetroniDE; VRWCmember

You can be sure I won't mention them in the future.


12 posted on 01/06/2006 2:11:35 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (¡Feliz Año Nuevo!)
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To: CondorFlight

Give me a F"ing" break. The most corrupt country in this hemisphere is playing innocent. These little sexual protuberances will take a buck from wherever it comes. That includes the high ranking officials. (no names mentioned) Vincente Fox does come to mind though. You go south of the border you get slime. Just the way it is!!! You have Presidente that abides by what they want you get slimed. Just the way it is. Thankyou Senor' Bush. Take your one world government and cram it. We will fight you in the mtns.


13 posted on 02/05/2006 7:34:57 PM PST by Sterco
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Posting pictures like that of Zeta is cruel and unusual torture...whuff whuff!
14 posted on 02/05/2006 7:40:47 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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