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1 posted on 01/06/2006 4:48:15 PM PST by lizol
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If a psychological abnormality (what used to be called a "mental illness") is defined as a deviation from the norm, then it is statistically more valid to call homosexuality a psychopathology than the hatred of homosexuality. In other words, it is far more statistically likely that people HATE homosexuals than that they ARE homosexuals.


66 posted on 01/06/2006 6:48:16 PM PST by IronJack
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The sodomites intimidated the APA into taking their mental illness out of the DSM IV and with a stroke of the pen the sodomite life style went from being a mental disorder to just a plain ole life style choice (later it was characterized as a genetic predisposition 'no choice').

Their new power grab is to promote the idea that those who criticize or characterize them as mentally ill or immoral are the ones in need of 'mental health' services...

America is in the fight of it's life with enemies foreign and domestic..from without and within-as well as political, economic, cultural, and spiritual.

The sodomite agenda is to shut down God's word on the subject...and make the bible 'hate speech' at least on the lesbian and sodomite issues.

How well they mesh with the Islamo-fascists,Marxists,Narco Terrorists,Pedophiles,Pornographers,and Third Way-Fourth Reich enemies of the Republic of our Founding Fathers.

imo

67 posted on 01/06/2006 6:57:25 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: lizol; EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping.

Do you see it coming? I saw it coming in the late 80s. CPS knocks at your door - grabs your kids - you aren't fit to have custody. Why? You told them that homosexuality was abnormal, unnatural and immoral. You're guilty of homophobia or sick with homophoba. Mandatory medical treatment. Gotta take your meds or back to the hospital. They'll allow supervised visits with your children as long as you get treatment.

Meanwhile, homosexuals are foster and adoptive parents.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.


69 posted on 01/06/2006 7:23:49 PM PST by little jeremiah
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Ah yes....and in the end, evil will be called good...and good will be called evil.

Lover your laughing little guy!!!!!!!!


70 posted on 01/06/2006 7:26:15 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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Psychiatry at best is an art-form anyway, not a true science. In medicine a person's diagnosis's is based on science and not political or social pressure.. a temperature below or above 98.6 is abnormal and that medical diagnosis won't change because of some lobbyist or special interest group. But, according to this quack, he has decided that gay is normal and those who adamantly disagree have a psychological disorder.. Who's delusional..
72 posted on 01/06/2006 7:32:53 PM PST by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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Dunbar is considered an expert on hate crimes and serves as a consultant with the Los Angeles City Police Department, the LA Unified School District and the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center.

Dunbar is probably also a certifed and mentally unstable pervert.

74 posted on 01/06/2006 7:34:33 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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We could examine the case of Louis Sheldon, chairman of the Traditional Values Coalition. In spite of all his rantings about gays, Sheldon has a vast collection of homosexual pornography. Why does Sheldon have the collection? Does he get his jollies, looking at it?

Underneath it all, Sheldon may be as 'queer as a three dollar bill'.

Sheldon also has some peculiarities of his behavior. Like his campaigning against allowing the reimportation of prescription medicines from Canada. It turns out Sheldon had sold out to the drug manufacturers and duped his followers into acting as unwitting lobbyists for the drug companies. The House Conservative Caucus barred Sheldon from their meetings, because of that little escapade. Sheldon is nothing better than a con man, a common grifter.

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76 posted on 01/06/2006 7:56:39 PM PST by punster
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The beginning of the world of 1984...

How about we just classify everyone as having a delusional disorder (do I really need the /sarc here, folks?)

In all seriousness, it seems this guy sounds like a real Nutt-Case himself. After all, what is it they say about people and glass houses?

77 posted on 01/06/2006 8:03:25 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (This is a darkroom. Keep the door closed or you'll let all the dark out...)
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We could also examine the case of Paul Cameron, who appears to be NARTH's source for most of their claims about gays.

Besides Cameron's reputation as a notorious fraud, there is this interview (March 18, 1999( of Cameron by Rolling Stone Magazine, where Cameron says:

"If you isolate sexuality as something solely for one's own personal amusement, and all you want is the most satisfying orgasm you can get - and that is what hosexuality seems to be - then homosexuality seems too powerful to resist. The evidence is that men do a better job on men, and women on women, if all you are looking for is orgasm....It's almost like pure heroin. It's such a rush...."

It does appear that Cameron is totally obsessed with having sex with another man. Does this mean that Cameron is also as 'queer as a three dollar bill'? If so, it means that Cameron is in a deep state of denial about his own sexuality, attacking gays as a means of convincing himself he is not gay.

That sounds like pathological behavior.

79 posted on 01/06/2006 8:09:16 PM PST by punster
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These are the same people who were sure that people had repressed memories that they didn't, in fact, have.

Me thinks that the delusional problem, it is that people with disturbance have convinced some in society that the disturbance is elsewhere. From this article, they're still working on that.


85 posted on 01/06/2006 8:56:08 PM PST by MillerCreek
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In early December 2005, Washington Post writer Shankar Vedantam reported on the efforts of UCLA psychology professor Edward Dunbar to encourage the psychiatric community to add "extreme bias" against homosexuals (or ethnic groups) added to the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).

I'm curious how one determines that another person is extremely biased against homosexuals or ethnic groups. If a person lives in an all-black neighborhood and attends a black college is he presumptively biased against whites and Hispanics? How does he prove the presumption false? Or would the presumption only apply to white people who live in predominantly white neighborhoods? If so that is evidence of how biased this exercise really is.

Next question: Is holding politically incorrect viewpoints really proof of bias? I submit it is more likely to be just the opposite: evidence of objectivity. A person who does not kowtow to the party line is not necessarily a biased ideologue. He may just be the most objective person around, someone who rejects PC BS and bases his opinions on real evidence rather than simply parrot what is expected of him.

87 posted on 01/06/2006 8:59:29 PM PST by freespirited
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Professor Dunbar is considered an expert on hate crimes...as a psychologist and "expert" on hate crimes, the prof should be familiar with a study highlighted on Dr. Drew Pinsky's cable show on sexuality a few months back - done I believe at some university in Georgia, the study involved PET scans of the brains of young male and female subjects exposed to sexually explicit photos - females' scans exhibited the anticipated attention and excitation with male photos, and signs of attention with female photos - male scans showed attention and excitation with female photos, and attention with the male photos. However, they also exhibited with the male photos signs of arousal in a section of the amygdala (sp?), which activity is usually interpreted as indications of reaction to perceived threats - even Pinsky, who considered himself a non-homophobe, exhibited this reaction to the provocative male photos.....

Wouldn't it be something if "homophobia" were hardwired into the male brain as some sort of a survival mechanism through evolution and was therefore as blameless and shameless as, oh, say homosexuality as an expression of genetics is assumed to be......

92 posted on 01/06/2006 9:24:12 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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I wonder if they can add "Spends too much time on FreeRepublic" to the list while they're at it.

I can file for psychological counselling and maybe disability compensation!


97 posted on 01/06/2006 9:38:23 PM PST by airborne (If being a Christian was a crime, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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Next, liberal psychologists will decide that if you're a conservative, you're a nut. Although liberals are unhinged, to the Left, that doesn't qualify as a mental disorder. Welcome to the World of 1984 Redux. Big Brother Is Watching You.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

100 posted on 01/06/2006 9:54:49 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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The eastern block communists used to classify political criminals as mentally ill so they had some justification to send them to the gulags.


101 posted on 01/06/2006 9:56:42 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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I think it's a great idea to put "bias" on the DSM list. And next year, let's put "getting up in the morning" on the list of psychological disorders. Arguably, leaving the comfort of one's cozy warm bed is an aberration.
102 posted on 01/06/2006 10:02:06 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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California Psychologist Wants 'Extreme Bias' Against Homosexuals Added To 'DSM'

So Gay Bashing is suddenly OK now because a perp can't
help it, he just has a mental disorder?

104 posted on 01/06/2006 10:12:25 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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