The Chicago Presbytery's naïve, dangerous embrace of terrorists (PCUSA)

Chicago Jewish Community Online ^ | Jan 2006 | STEVEN B. NASATIR

[Presbyterian Reporter]

Credit where credit is due. Without Free Republic and the Bloggers, the main stream media would not have checked into the Hezbollah visits by the Chicago Presbyterians.

Note the following in this report: "When asked on WBEZ radio who he met with on his Middle East trip, Reynolds didn’t mention Hezbollah. Only after some relatively obscure web postings came to the attention of local Jewish groups did he acknowledge it. And then came the backpedaling and rationalizations: it wasn’t an official trip, it wasn’t supposed to be publicized, Reynolds was on leave, the Middle East Task Force doesn’t “speak" for the Presbytery (but it is funded by and sponsors trips and resolutions for the Presbytery), etc."

[NativeNewYorker]

Still can't look my local presbyterian minister in the eye...

[goodnesswins]

HA....We have a GREAT Presbyterian minister (PCAmerica)....today he quoted Mark Steyn in his sermon, and cited C. S. Lewis, and Narnia.....the Sermon was about the RESURRECTION and atheists, basically. It was great!

[NativeNewYorker]

Well, you don't live in Sodom On The Subway.

[Galveston Grl]

Quick, someone tell Abe Foxman the Presbyterians are not the "conservative" Christians who keep beating his pants off every election. Abe's friends are his enemies and his enemies are his friends. Poor Abe; he might be suffering from PatRobertsonitis.

[Conservativegreatgrandma]

Still can't look my local presbyterian minister in the eye...

Why would you have to? If you're attending a Presbyterian Church USA, STOP!!! Save yourself the agony. We left the apostate ELCA years ago and are totally liberated.

[SJackson]

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[buck61]

Grandma, I did the same. I will not go back untill they get this mess fixed.The PCUSA has gotten too liberal for me.

[Conservativegreatgrandma]

They won't get the mess fixed. This rot exists from the top down. Just try to get these leftists weaned away from the National Council of Churches. They're totally corrupt.

[Macstone]

Here in Oregon, next door to the foiled terrorist training camp, the Presbyterian minister is also the Episcopal priest and the new local prison chaplin is a budhist. You figure why this nation has problems.

[familyop]

The Presbyterian Church is not the only church pushing against Israel and assuming to take the place of its people.

Disciples of Christ to Israel: Drop dead
http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-religion/1458942/posts

U.S. Presbyterians target five firms with Israel links
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458765/posts

The Church Stares Into the Abyss (The dhimmitude of the Church of England)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1435084/posts

(Anti-Semitic) Anglican group urges Israel sanctions
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430566/posts

Anglicans Call for Sanction on Investment in Israel to Uphold Justice
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430772/posts

THE VATICAN AND THE STANDOFF AT THE CHURCH OF THE NATIVITY
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp515.htm

Two United Methodist gatherings urge selective divestment from Israel (official anti-Israel United Methodist Website)
http://www.umc.org/site/c.gjJTJbMUIuE/b.886089/k.A105/Two_United_Methodist_gatherings_urge_selective_divestment_from_Israel.htm

world council of churches (WCC)
church & ecumenical relations
http://www.wcc-coe.org/wcc/what/ecumenical/index-e.html
"Among those churches which are not members of the WCC, the most notable is the Roman Catholic Church (RCC). Since 1965 a Joint Working Group (JWG), co-sponsored by the WCC and the RCC, has met regularly to discuss issues of common interest and promote cooperation. The group meets annually. One of the church and ecumenical relations staff members serves as co-secretary for the JWG and helps to coordinate contact between the Council and the dicasteries of the Vatican through the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity. [And] . . . Though the Roman Catholic Church is not a member of the WCC, it is a full member of the Faith & Order Commission. The RCC also serves the team on Mission & Evangelism in a consultative capacity."

[familyop]

Pope discusses Christian unity with Presbyterians
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1553831/posts

[Salem]

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[VRWCTexan]

I read somewhere - probably here on FR, that when Reynolds and his group meet with the terrorists that in order to win their confidence, he advised them upfront that he and his entire group had all voted for John Kerry!!!!

(Seriously - I'm not making this up)

[prairiebreeze]

You are correct about them rushing to assure the terrorists they'd voted for sKerry. And this is but one of a handful of meetings the church has had with terrorists, one being a seminary group full of college aged kids.

The PCUSA is losing members in droves. Liberal agenda and arrogance at the denominational level abounds.

[Presbyterian Reporter]

You are correct. When MEMRI found the quotes in a mid east newspaper, it stated the Presbyterian group were all Democrats and all 18 of them had voted for Kerry.

So much for an "unbiased" fact finding trip to the mid east!!!!

[Ciexyz]

I heard from my pastor that a lot of conflict is going on at the national level of the PCUSA. If someone stands up at a national session meeting and quotes the Bible as a basis for their arguments, other members of the Presbytery shout them down with cries of "fundamentalist" and "bigot".

[Ciexyz]

No matter what happens, the crazies and the libs are NOT gonna drive me outa my church.

[Ciexyz]

Those crazy Presbyterians (our denomination) are at it again. Pinging you for your info.

[firebrand]

I crossed Redeemer (Presbyterian) off my list of possible churches simply because a young woman who led the congregation in prayer prayed for the Iraqi people without also praying for our troops.