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Prophecy today, Isaiah 14 is happening before us. (long vanity)
Eye witness news ^ | Aug 13, 2005 | American in Israel

Posted on 08/13/2005 1:43:17 AM PDT by American in Israel

Blessings to my fellow Freepers.

I have been a long time poster here on Freeper, but normally I always stay in the Foreign Affairs section. So much news, so little time. But this time, while I am still posting about my experience in Israel, my subject is eschatology, or the study of final prophetic events of the end of this age.

For thousands of years prophecy's in the Bible have sat on the pages like little kitchen clocks, wound up tight and frozen in place. No ticking, no action, just a paper weight. For many generations they have been knick-naks of curiosity for us to ponder over and set back in place when frankly, they do nothing. They are fun to talk about, but cannot hold interest long because they just do not apply to our lives much.

Much of the Bible is doctrine, and teaches us how to live in a right place with our Creator. Much of the bible is History which teaches us a different thing, not doctrine but what life is like. But part of that history is prophecy, not of the past, but of the future. God is timeless and omnipresent. So God when he tells us prophecy, does not tell us what He wants, He simply tells us what happened then.

This is a very significant time in Biblical History. This as in today, this Saturday, this week. This is a day that was written about in those little kitchen clock prophecies that you and I have played with, but frankly ignored more often than not. When is the last time you read from the Prophets in the Bible?

Imagine my shock last year when I discovered that many of the little kitchen decorations sitting on the shelf for a couple of thousand years have suddenly sprung to life and have been ticking in the empty kitchen of my Old Testament Bible study?

It is not that one is ticking, but many suddenly are!

For example Isaiah 14:29-32 and Zephniah 2. Long dormant, from the day of their birth, their little dials are moving now, and the ominous sound ticking is reverberating in that empty room. Today is an important day, a day of the next ratcheting click is upon us once again.

This Saturday is the evening of the Sabbath before the 9th of Av on the Hebrew calendar. This is an important day in History, a day of disaster that affects the world. It is the day of the destruction of both temples, a day of the beginning of the Spanish Inquistion, a day of the beginning of the World Wars in Europe. It is the day of the beginning of the expulsion of the Jews from their land by the United States of America. It is a day of infamy, of disaster and of historical shifts of the mega sort.

This day of the year is a traditional fast of mourning for the Jewish people, and may just become a day of mourning for the United States. People often say to me they do not see the United States in prophecy for some strange reason. There is a reason for that. One, they are looking in the wrong places, and two, because where it is listed it is not for good, but for bad.

In Isaiah 14, a puzzle is placed, a keyhole to the prophecy that you must find the exact key to fit. Once that lock is unlocked, the clock begins to count down to the destruction of the Palestinians. Not a normal destruction, but a complete wipeout from the Hand of God. This puzzle, or key hole is simply put like this:

Isaiah 14:28 This is the burden which came in the year that King Ahaz died.

Isaiah:29 "Do not rejoice, all you of Philistia, Because the rod that struck you is broken; For out of the serpent's roots will come forth a viper, And its offspring will be a fiery flying serpent.

Let me translate this into a key.

King Ahaz died over 200 years after King David conquered the Philistines in the area of Gaza and annexed their land into his kingdom. Nobody had seen a living Philistine for generations when this prophecy came, and to this day we know virtually nothing about their fishing villages in this area as they were effectively wiped from the earth. There is very little remains of them even for archeologists. We do know that they were a Greek colony of people and that they were worshipers of Baal. We do not know what became of them.

This is very significant, as the Prophecy could not have meant the Philistines of Ancient times as when this prophecy was given, there were none. It has to be a prophecy of a modern race of people claiming to be Philistia.

Like the Palestinians, who pronounce it Falistia, as in Arabic they do not have a P sound. They may not be able to pronounce it, but they claim to be it. Funny huh?

Now we have defined the location of the lock, let us define the key.

The area of Palestine was always a backwater nomans land since the Islamic Horde wiped out the remnants of Israel's culture 1400 years ago. Nobody set up a kingdom there, it was always just a place, not a state. The Arabs, Christians and Jews that lived there were subject to various Kings and rulers, that changed like the tide, but none chose to live there or set up a kingdom there. Who would? It was an economically depressed land that barely supported the people that sustenance farmed its hot and unforgiving landscape. It was always ruled from afar, as a very poorly producing tax land by distant rulers.

That changed in the early days of the Nazi Empire. A local clan leader united the Arabs under the Nazi flag and became known as the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem. He set up a kingdom on the coattails of Hitler pronouncing unity in the goal of extermination of the Jews.

He was a harsh task master to the Arabs, living with a Nazi king is always so I suspect. But he whipped the Arabs into some semblance of unity. A unity that was not shattered when his rule was broken by the British in their victory over Hitler at the end of the war and the formation of the State of Israel.

29 "Do not rejoice, all you of Philistia, Because the rod that struck you is broken..

And the timer, for the first time in over 2500 years ticked.

That Rod, was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and who he struck was that people, the Arab immigrants to the historical land of Israel. They were to be united again under the nephew of the Grand Mufti within one generation. His name was Yassar Arafat.

The word for Rod in Hebrew is Shevet, it is also used for Tribe. The rulers of the "Falistia" were a tribe from the Egyptian conquest. So both meanings of the word are in play, it is a pun, son. Who says God has no sense of humor?

For out of the serpent's roots will come forth a viper,

And the timer ticked again…

The Hebrew word for serpent is nahash, it simply means snake. But the word for viper is the word sefaph, it means a poisonous snake.

Yassar Arafat proved to indeed be a poisonous snake. It was he who invented modern terrorism as a State sponsored ideal. It was he who founded the death squad in Arab controlled lands here that execute any political opposition in public torture sessions. It was he who changed the living standard from then thousand a month (80% of the wages of his Jewish neighbors) to an average barely a thousand dollars a month. And it was he who crushed the people under an iron boot of multiple terrorist police forces battling for supremacy under his unforgiving rule.

Life became much harder under the hand of this ruler. And the next generation of Palestinians grew up in Arafat's schools, being trained from birth to be bomb fuses for Jihad, and being trained that the land they never owned, and the cities they never built was actually theirs and worth dying for. But, he, like all dictators eventually do, died.

And its offspring will be a fiery flying serpent.

And the clock ticked the third time.

This time there is no successor from the root of the Rod or Tribe, the offspring of Arafat is the present government forming under the careful hand of President Bush from the ruins of the terrorist regime of Arafat. It is forming in a democratic way, the violently abused "Falistia" fresh from the mind numbing Jihad factories called schools. America my friends, pays for the books in those schools. The victims of those brainwashing factories are voting in Hamas and Fatah, the two most notorious terrorist groups in the Middle-East. Fatah who founded terrorism, and Hamas, who spread it through the West.

While we gave them democracy, we placed them under terrorist leaders, for it was America who insisted that Arafat be given rule and reign over the Arabs of Palestine when he was defeated in his bid for a kingdom in Lebanon. A bid that lead to the slaughter of over 100,000 Arab Lebanese.

The Hebrew words translated as fiery flying serpent here is literally flying viper with a side picture of demonic power. And demonic it is, for Hamas has instituted a Taliban like rule in Gaza that puts Afghanistan to shame. Instead of a trail and public execution, the roaming Hamas thugs make Islamic Fatwas on the spot and slaughter any passerby's that are deemed not Islamic enough.

Such was the fate a couple of months ago of a young betrothed couple walking together on a public beach downtown Gaza City. They had the grooms young sister as a escort, as a young couple are not allowed to be unescorted by a family member according to the social rules of Islam. This was on a public beach in the main city mind you, not some private place. Hamas ruled on the spot that the young sister was not enough escort and informed the couple of the fact by four of them emptying their AK47's into the bride to be. They then beat her remains to a pulp with bats and iron pipes and then continued on to hospitalize the groom and his little sister.

Truly, the Palestinians live with a dragon as a ruler now.

This key clearly unlocks the timer on this prophecy, and the next step is the complete destruction of the Palestinian Arabs.

First a promise to the Christian Arabs, a people who are rarely spirit filled and rather bitter towards the Jews due to being raised and steeped in this bitter regime of Islamic rulers. But a people most oppressed of any in this dark area of the world. For the Islamic's hate the Christians most of all as the Jews are all dead or gone.

Isaiah 14:30 The firstborn of the poor will feed, And the needy will lie down in safety;

But then the next part chills the blood:

I will kill your roots with famine, And it will slay your remnant.

The first born will be saved, but the families will be destroyed. Even among the poor there will be few survivors, but among the Muslims?

31 Wail, O gate! Cry, O city! All you of Philistia are dissolved; For smoke will come from the north, And no one will be alone in his appointed times."

This phrase speaks in Hebrew of appointments in the smoke, and there will be no loners without appointments in it. That appointment is destruction and the smoke? Well remember that God appeared as a column of fire by night and a cloud or SMOKE by day.

God Himself may be coming to destroy them.

But the most chilling statement in the whole prophecy for Americans, the pushers of this "Roadmap to Peace" that demands that Israel surrender the land given to them by God, is the last line:

Isaiah 14:32 What will they answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD has founded Zion, And the poor of His people shall take refuge in it.

When this all goes south as it clearly will with the destruction of the Palestinians, What will be said to the Nation that pushed this plan on Israel and its innumerable Condis' and Powels and Generals and diplomats serving the hard line?

That the land of Israel is founded by God, for His people, not the political solutions of a Nation that has no right force the land to be given to others.

This my friends is a rebuke to America that we will ignore to our peril.

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1 posted on 08/13/2005 1:43:18 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: OB1kNOb

Thought you might like to read this, you inspired me to write it!


2 posted on 08/13/2005 1:45:52 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

Let me throw this scenario your way to think about. Do you think it may be possible that Bush knows that once the palestinians have thier complete foothold on Gaza, with the Jews GONE, that it could be more easily targeted without fear of collateral damages now that they know that terrorism pays and works and thier intifada kicks it up a notch or two? We can all agree that Bush and his advisors are NOT idiots. They have been very good at maintaining pleasant surprise for the skeptical. Whether it's Bush supporting Sharons plan, or, Sharon being pressured by the white house to start this plan, this move certainly had to have been well discussed and thought over.
To me, as it seems to you, we can't see why this has to and is happening to the Jewish people of Israel. Like it or not the bible clearly proclaims the Jewish people as "His own". It is also written that in the later days that the Israelites that were scattered among the nations, would be returned to the land that was promised to thier forefathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. In case you weren't paying attention, Jews have been leaving whereever in the world they had been living, and returning to Israel in droves. The bible also says that Israel would NEVER be divided.
As a Christian, such as Bush professes with no reservations about it, he HAS to know this. Absolutely has to. If he did not, then certainly an advisor somewhere would've clued him in.
From the Bushes standpoint then, knowing this, the question is why?
Obviously, Iran is a growing threat. Probably more of a threat than what we would feel if we got to have access to the same privy information the President gets EVERYDAY. Bush has proven himself to deal with threats and use pre-emption. He also knows he has to help keep the republicans in control of the house and senate next year. There is NO WAY, at this particular point that he can come to the American people, or congress to authorize another premptive action against Iran, on the heels of Iraq, not to mention that are troops are spread thin enough as is. He would be laughed out of the U.N. The only way would be to allow the Israelis to do it, then back them up. The world will definately NOT be able to hide from the fact that the Jews are the victims, and NOT the palestinians as they claim they are. The world could not deny that Israel has taken the painful step of the pullout yet it did not bring peace, only more violence. All this would give all the justification Israel needs.
At this point it may SEEM that I'm mixing 2 seperate issues. One being a threat from Iran, secondly, the Israelis internal palestinian threat. Please follow along while I connect the two.
The whole of the muslim world has a well known and unhidden agenda, the complete elimination of the Jews. Just this last week there have been articles everywhere, including FR, that the newly elected leader of Iran has pledged his support to the palestinians during and after the pullout. Freshly crowned King Abdullah has also said basically the same thing.
Iran has been threatening to restart its uranium enrichment program. Enriched uranium has but one purpose. WEAPONS. And again, they continue to proudly say that they wish the destruction of Israel. They already have the missiles capable of delivering. History has proven that the first time Iran built a nuclear plant, they flattened it. They're ready to do it again. They, as does Bush, have a problem with the premption part again.
We know Iran has been, and is, a sponser of terrorists. We also know that Iran has been sending in insurgents to kill our troops in Iraq.
Is it not conceivable that once the pullout is completed, and the terrorists kick it up that notch or two, with help coming in from Iran, that we step in to back up Israel and take care of Iran once and for all? It wouldn't hurt my feelings none, it IS a growing menace that needs to be dealt with before it's too late and they hit first. They're not called "Mad Mullahs" for nothing.

3 posted on 08/13/2005 2:04:08 AM PDT by diverteach
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To: American in Israel; Alamo-Girl; airborne; AnimalLover; auggy; backhoe; backslacker; Baraonda; ...




Please let me know if you want on or off this list.

4 posted on 08/13/2005 2:37:45 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: diverteach

One can hope and pray.

I know that God is determined to be Israel's ONLY


I know that when we fail to defend Israel, we will pay dearly for failing to do so. Very dearly.

Those things I know of a certainty.

5 posted on 08/13/2005 2:46:10 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: diverteach
Let me throw this scenario your way to think about. Do you think it may be possible that Bush knows that once the palestinians have thier complete foothold on Gaza, with the Jews GONE, that it could be more easily targeted without fear of collateral damages...

So you want me to think that Bush, by destroying Israel so he can target the Arabs better without killing a Jew, is being dumb like a fox?

That is a bit of a stretch don't you think? The Bible says that in the last days there will be a test for the nations, that Jerusalem will become a stumbling block. Those nations that burden, or try to lift and move that block, will be cut asunder themselves. The Nation at the head of the charge to carve up Jerusalem to hand half to the Arab League is the United States. This is not wisdom by Bush, it is Biblical Suicide.

With smart weapons, we can easily pick which window of the building we wish to drop the bomb into from 15 miles away. Why abandon Gaza to the Arab League to "limit collateral damage" that we do not cause in the first place? Frankly I think your indulging in massive wishful thinking from a sinking ship. God says you judge a tree by its fruits, He does not say, if the fruit is sour, perhaps the intention is sweet.

Now you say as a Christian Bush, but you do not take into account that Bush is making decisions not on Christian Doctrine, but clearly is making decisions on the New World Order Doctrine of secular Humanistic rule of the world.

Does he stop Abortion? No.
Did he save Terri Schalvago from murder by starvation? No.
Did he protect the Constitutional limits on Government or negate them with the Patriot act? He negated them.
Have not the IRS rules for Non Profit Religious groups become a complete restriction of Missionary work under Bush's reign? It is illegal for a Church to give money to an individual now under the new rules for Corporations in 501c's. Missionary's are now ILLEGAL by tax LAW.
Is Bush siding with Israel and God or with the Globalists? Globalists.
Did Bush move the Embassy to Jerusalem as he promised the American people, or does he block it as he promised the Saudi Kings? He blocks it.
Does Bush heed the warnings of the Bible against all Nations that cut asunder Israel, or does he cut away as the Globalists decide? He cuts away.

Is Bush a Christian? He talks the talk, but does not walk the walk politically.

Is Bush a Globalist? He talks the talk, walks the walk, and has allowed the destruction of both the Constitution of the United States, property rights on which democracy is founded. The New World Order dream, has been put in place by a man who Claims to be a Christian, but delivers nothing Christian.

The fruit stinks, and after 6 years it has never ripened into something even remotely Christian. But, we have a fine swat team for a police force, We are at war in two fronts and have nobody guarding our borders and Russia and China are gearing up for invasion with over 5 practice runs at full scale war with America in Bush's years alone.

My friend, it is the Globalist dream, America cut asunder, and the Jews under the thumb of the Sand Nazi's. Bush is not your friend, he is your judgment. While he may think he is a fine Christian, he is a product of replacement theology Churches that do not know their Bibles, and he is a tool, at best, of the New World Order.

I suggest you read Isaiah 18, a prophecy that is part of this prophecy of destruction in the Middle East. For just like in Zeph 2 (which my write up follows this thread) the destruction does not stop with the Philistines, but continues on to Moab and beyond. The prophecy does not stop until Isaiah 20 where a new prophecy is outlined with a dating separation. Isaiah 18 is an odd ball, it is the only one that does not identify the nation that is cut asunder. It just says it is beyond the rivers of Ethiopia. It is a land that is farther than known borders were in that day. It is America I think.

God made a simple promise to Abraham, who curses him, God curses, who blesses him, God blesses. And if you look in history, what ever a people do to the Jews is returned upon them 10 fold.

Germany was slaughtered, the people burned in the fires of Dresden. Its capitol was converted into a prison camp for years and years. Brittany, the Empire that the sun never sets on, divided the land of Israel, and now is so cut asunder that on cloudy days in London, the Empire of Brittany is an empire that the sun never shines on.

If bush is dumb like a fox, he has called the wrath of God on America, and will cause it to be cut asunder.

That is mighty dumb, even for a fox.

Don't get me wrong, I like Bush as a brother, but his policy's in Israel will bring destruction on America far worse than any President in our History. No other president was arrogant enough to challenge God Himself. God is not impressed by nuclear weapons, or democracy.

God, is simply put, God. Bush is simply put, a man, and not a very smart man when it comes to the Bible. You can stir up a hornets next taking on Islam, but you are opening a can of Whupass taking on the God of Israel. Even if you claim to be his follower.

6 posted on 08/13/2005 3:03:27 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Quix

On the list, please. :)

I've been hearing more prophecies and claims of prophecies fulfilled from a myriad of Judea-Christian-Koranic and even other "semi-religious sects" with names that are harder to pin down..

7 posted on 08/13/2005 3:06:58 AM PDT by kaotic133
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To: American in Israel

I thought we were pretty much marked to be "torn asunder" as you put it, when Revelation was fulfilled and the grey cloud tore down the tower of Babel in an hour.

Oh, how the merchants and allies lamented and wailed for he loss of wealth that occured in that hour, but they stood a long way away.

Or have you forgotten 9-11 and how our "allies" kept their distance afterward?

8 posted on 08/13/2005 3:10:13 AM PDT by kaotic133
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To: kaotic133



I don't think anyone has prophecy all figured out. But it is exceedingly clear that great chunks of it are being fulfilled quite frequently in our era.

9 posted on 08/13/2005 3:14:58 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: JockoManning

BACK UP PING LIST PING to put on the


10 posted on 08/13/2005 3:18:49 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: American in Israel
For so many these are such hard things to read, even as very strong believers, we can allow ourselves to be tempted to look back like Lot's wife and wish things where different maybe, to devise some romantic/victorious scheme to make it all make sense even though the facts are so plainly in front of us. Praying for you as you offer up these articles for reading and praying for those who read them, that they not allow their hearts to go away from Him in some wrong direction, guided by wishful thinking not in accordance with His Word.

2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
11 posted on 08/13/2005 6:48:24 AM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3)
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To: Quix; American in Israel
I know that when we fail to defend Israel, we will pay dearly for failing to do so. Very dearly.

I couldn't agree more. Great post, AiI!
12 posted on 08/13/2005 6:52:10 AM PDT by bearsgirl90
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To: Quix

Hey Quix...would you put me on your prophecy ping list, also.

13 posted on 08/13/2005 6:52:55 AM PDT by Dark Skies (The storm is coming!)
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To: American in Israel

wow, this is a vanity. i think prophecies are being fulfilled all the time, and even over and over. I mean, if God is sovereign, well, what would one expect?

14 posted on 08/13/2005 6:54:58 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (see my FR page for a link to the tribute to Terri Schaivo, a short video presentation.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Vanity, vanity, all is vanity. Lamentations...
15 posted on 08/13/2005 7:26:49 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Dark Skies; JockoManning



Dark Skies;


16 posted on 08/13/2005 8:53:42 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: American in Israel

PERHAPS you'd consider making the first 3 words of your titles different in each new thread.

When they are minimized, it's much easier to tell them apart along the bottom of my screen.


17 posted on 08/13/2005 9:09:14 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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To: American in Israel
Ecclesiaste 1:1-2 (and "all is vanity" repeated in 12:8)...

1: The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.

2: Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.

18 posted on 08/13/2005 9:09:20 AM PDT by Dark Skies (The storm is coming!)
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To: Quix

Oh darn, I did not think of that. I meant them as search terms as I doubt many can read all this in one day, even if I wrote it in one.

I will do so after this one, it is the finish of the series of the old testament.

Next one is the Book of Revelations...

19 posted on 08/13/2005 9:16:53 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel

No sweat. Just a preference.

Search terms do work in any sequence, though, as I recall.


Be safe . . . IN HIM.

20 posted on 08/13/2005 9:25:59 AM PDT by Quix (GOD'S LOVE IS INCREDIBLE . . . BUT MUST BE RECEIVED TO . . .)
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