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GERMAN JET FIGHTER REPLICA HEADS OVERSEAS (US Gov. alarmed at "war weapon export")
AOPA Online | 1/13/06

Posted on 01/13/2006 8:14:42 AM PST by pabianice

A replica of one of Germany's greatest technological triumphs late in World War II, the Messerschmitt Me.262 fighter jet, has left American soil and reached Germany after U.S. State Department officials delayed it 60 days because they saw it as a weapon of war.

The four 30 mm replica cannons aboard lack a firing mechanism and still wouldn't fire if they had one. The aircraft now has arrived in Germany where it will be reassembled by the Messerschmitt Foundation aircraft collection and flown once again.

The replica project has been taken over by a group of retired Boeing engineers operating in Everett, Washington, as Legend Flyers. The aircraft are for sale by Air Assets International/Warbird Recovery in Colorado. Messerschmitt granted five additional serial numbers. Two have been built, with three to go.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Germany; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aviation; me262; messerschmitt; wwii
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Clearly, the US Dept. of State is staffed with the same moron lawyers who now run the FAA.


1 posted on 01/13/2006 8:14:44 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Man, what a beautiful piece of aircraft history!


2 posted on 01/13/2006 8:19:04 AM PST by meandog (FUDU)
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To: pabianice

wow, thats just way to cool. id pay good money to ride in this plane if it was a 2 seater. btw, what always surprised me is just how small the early jets were, ie the aircobra, this messerschimdt, etc etc. even the mig 15 was a smallish bird. state dept, sheesh, what more needs be said?


3 posted on 01/13/2006 8:19:52 AM PST by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: pabianice; Paleo Conservative

Hottest-looking plane. Ever.


4 posted on 01/13/2006 8:21:57 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: meandog

Yeah - would be cool to fly one of these to Sun and Fun...


5 posted on 01/13/2006 8:22:04 AM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: son of caesar

This jet was definitely not small. Even today it looks sleek - truly revolutionary! Now if they'd just get around to re-building a 'Stuka'......


6 posted on 01/13/2006 8:23:55 AM PST by Al Simmons ('A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user' - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: pabianice
What I always wanted. the ability to perform an air strike.
7 posted on 01/13/2006 8:24:37 AM PST by bmwcyle (Gael Murphy is a bug)
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To: son of caesar
even the mig 15 was a smallish bird.

Yep. I actually sat on the wing of one while watching a concert once, amazingly small even compared to small modern fighters like the F-16. A club in Germany had purchased it and put it inside.

9 posted on 01/13/2006 8:26:08 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Al Simmons

Flying around in a Stuka, complete with the siren, could certainly be fun ;)


10 posted on 01/13/2006 8:27:41 AM PST by somniferum
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To: pabianice

Yeager got to fly one and had nothing but praise for it.

I truly believe God intervened and put into Hitler's head that it needed to be a bomber. That one move halted production at a time that it could have stopped the bombing of Germany by B17s.


12 posted on 01/13/2006 8:28:29 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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To: pabianice
Read about it here:

The ME-262 Project

http://www.stormbirds.com/project/index.html

13 posted on 01/13/2006 8:28:56 AM PST by tarheelswamprat
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To: pabianice
Take a look at the hole in the middle of the the engine nacelle ( dead center ).
What's in there is a lawnmower type pull pull starter.
14 posted on 01/13/2006 8:29:03 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: somniferum

Yeah - useful while doing a (simulated) divebombing of your ex's house ;-)


15 posted on 01/13/2006 8:29:45 AM PST by Al Simmons ('A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user' - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Mighty Eighth

It wasn't a matter of capability, it was simple numbers. We had many more B17's/fighter cover than they had jets (and fuel). Same situation with Panther/Tiger tank vs the Sherman.

If they had started the jet production a year or two earlier, that really could have changed the air war over Europe. Luckily, Luftwaffe politics helped us out.


16 posted on 01/13/2006 8:31:01 AM PST by xusafflyer (Mexifornian by birth, Hoosier by choice.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I beg to differ. While this is an absolutely marvelous bird, of all WWII vintage planes, P51 Mustang is by far the best looking. Everything about it says "fighter", "bird of prey".


17 posted on 01/13/2006 8:31:42 AM PST by farlander
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To: Mighty Eighth

THat is hard to say. It delivered a huge payload, for its time. It also had enough guns to truly be a flying fortress, but since from most angles you could only shoot at most a couple guns...

It did bring a lot of guys back home after taking a beating, but, you would never have gotten me in that ball...not for a million dollars.


18 posted on 01/13/2006 8:32:15 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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To: pabianice

It's not a "replica". It's a new-production bird built to the same design and standards (or in some cases, improved standards) as the original. The guys who built them even got authentic werk numbers from Messerschmitt that start in sequence where the old ones left off.


20 posted on 01/13/2006 8:34:07 AM PST by tanknetter
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