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Murtha's War Hero Status Called Into Question
cnsnews.com ^ | 1/13/05 | By Marc Morano and Randy Hall

Posted on 01/13/2006 11:53:53 AM PST by paltz

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To: MEG33

I can see your points. And I completely agree with your last paragraph.


301 posted on 01/14/2006 4:46:53 AM PST by moog
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To: paltz
...and Murtha has thus far refused to release his own military records.

Another "war hero" who wants to enhance his service record for political purposes. Sign the SF 180 Murtha!

302 posted on 01/14/2006 6:23:47 AM PST by afnamvet
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To: paltz

Unless Republicans wnt to be accused of attacking people's military records for political gain they should stay far away from this.


303 posted on 01/14/2006 6:25:00 AM PST by claudiustg (Go Bush! Go Sharon!)
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To: paltz

We took heavy casualties in my regiment the year that I was there.

But not the rest of the time????


304 posted on 01/14/2006 6:31:59 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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To: TroutFishingInAmerica
"The sources for this story set off some alarm bells. Fox and Bailey were both defeated by Murtha in congressional elections. Sour grapes? I think some impartial witnesses are needed."

Defeated in part because of Murtha's running on his puffed-up war record.

305 posted on 01/14/2006 6:40:11 AM PST by Godebert
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Leave Murtha's military record alone. There's no justification for blowing the whole wad over something that happend decades ago. Murtha served his country in the military admirably. Focus on Murtha's work in Congress, starting with his voting record, and conflicting recent press and media statements.

Why is it off limits to investigate a war record, but not off limits to investigate a lack of war record? Benedict Arnold served his country bravely, but that's not why we remember him. Like Kerry, Murtha is trying to use his war record to establish credibility. I agree that Republicans can be made to look bad for questioning "this brave man's" credentials. If a Republican claims military credentials, the media does the questioning.

306 posted on 01/14/2006 7:05:56 AM PST by Cracker Jack (Conservatives love their country. Liberals love the government.)
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To: Cracker Jack

From Murtha's website....He can't even keep the timeline of his own life straight.


Born June 17, 1932, John Patrick Murtha grew up in Westmoreland County where he delivered newspapers and worked in a gas station before graduating from Ramsay High School in Mount Pleasant. He volunteered to serve in Vietnam. After his discharge from the Marines, he ran a small business in Johnstown while starting a family and attending the University of Pittsburgh on the GI bill. He graduated from Pitt in 1962 with a degree in economics and did graduate work in economics and political science at Indiana University of Pennsylvania. He served in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives from 1969 to 1974 and in 1974, he became the first combat Vietnam veteran elected to Congress


307 posted on 01/14/2006 7:14:32 AM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: kerryusama04
"This is out of line. Wayyyy out of line. I am not reading this article. This man is defined by what he does today."

Wrong....
Today, Murtha is a traitor or tool of traitors --- while under suspicion for ethics problems --- and we're being asked to cut him slack because he's a "hero".

It's NOT out of line when he and his defenders demand that his critics give him "credit" for his "heroic past" while he behaves as a unethical traitor in the present -- during time of war...

I suspect the facts will show that Murtha has been a lying, posing asshole for the vast majority of his worthless, lying, cheating, stealing life...

Murtha, like Kerry, Kennedy, etc, etc, prove the saying that politicians are our only inherently criminal class.

Semper Fi

308 posted on 01/14/2006 7:21:45 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Cracker Jack
Why is it off limits to investigate a war record, but not off limits to investigate a lack of war record? Benedict Arnold served his country bravely, but that's not why we remember him. Like Kerry, Murtha is trying to use his war record to establish credibility. I agree that Republicans can be made to look bad for questioning "this brave man's" credentials. If a Republican claims military credentials, the media does the questioning.

Do it on your own time. If you find anything substantive and factual, post a thread at FR, and ping me to it.

Otherwise you'll accomplish two things:

  1. You'll end up slandering a a fellow American by engaging in a smear campaign.

  2. You'll help the GOP, who seems to want to go off half-cocked on some sort of mission into the unknown, and in that process, reverse the course of the party.

309 posted on 01/14/2006 7:23:19 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Let the right wing organizations look into this. Let some witnesses say what they want to say, but the Pub party ought to stay clear of this and just say "we honor anyone who served, medals or not", and leave it at that.

Too close to the Kerry stories to bring up, even if they are true, which certainly looks like the case.

Besides this guy is a joke anyway. I don't know of anyone who's been swayed by him. He's a non issue. Just rip him for what he's doing now.

310 posted on 01/14/2006 7:29:49 AM PST by ALWAYSWELDING
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To: river rat

Supposedly, a newspaper has seen Murtha's medical records.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512020002

"A May 12, 2002, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article reported that "Marine Corps casualty records show that Murtha was injured in 'hostile' actions near Danang, Vietnam, on March 22, 1967 and May 7, 1967. In the first incident, his right cheek was lacerated, and in the second he was lacerated above his left eye. Neither injury required evacuation."


311 posted on 01/14/2006 7:36:27 AM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: ALWAYSWELDING
Besides this guy is a joke anyway. I don't know of anyone who's been swayed by him. He's a non issue. Just rip him for what he's doing now.

Exactly. He's damaging whatever credibility he had to begin with with his recent and current statements. Since the day he brought up this phony bill of his on the House floor for an Iraq pullout, most people I've talked with "on the street" can't believe what they're seeing and hearing from this guy.

I'm not going to help him. He's doing fine on his own.

Quite frankly, his current statements and position on the Iraq war overshadow something that may or may not have happend decades ago anyway.

312 posted on 01/14/2006 7:45:56 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: kerryusama04
This is out of line. Wayyyy out of line. I am not reading this article.

How do you know the article is way out of line if you don't read it?

BTW, Murtha is the one who brought up his service as a qualification for his POV.

313 posted on 01/14/2006 8:07:35 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: El Gato

Thanks, El Gato, I served in the US Army (ASA), and didn't realize that the other branches might have their own variations of medals. BTW, I could never get those US Navy ranks quite, either--as a US 2LT when I entered active duty, I was so low-ranking that I saluted all US Navy officers. Weren't too many where I served. But I honor every recipient (regardless of branch of service) of the Bronze Star. What guys like Murtha do afterwards is a different story.


314 posted on 01/14/2006 8:17:44 AM PST by CDB
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To: Wristpin
The more I learn, the more suspicious I'm becoming.....

I believe the man that said Murtha ADMITTED he didn't earn/deserve his Purple Hearts.

Murtha appears to be a poseur "hero", a corrupt politician and an ally of traitors to the Republic...

Now - I understand why he was crying on television....
He realized that the lie he had been living, and the respect he once commanded -- was OVER.

Semper Fi

315 posted on 01/14/2006 8:22:31 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

Well said! There are too many of these scumbags desecrating the honor of the silent ones. Throughout history there have been those bootlickers who actively seek rewards through connections for political purposes, most were officers, most were liars. Let their peers, those who were with them, expose them for what they are are. We owe it to the dead and the walking dead and in this case, to the Corps.

Semper Fi


316 posted on 01/14/2006 8:22:42 AM PST by Eighth Square
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To: Eighth Square
I could never prove it....but I strongly believe that all Gunts know that most Grunts bled more than either Kerry or Murtha -- and didn't work the system to get color.....

The vast majority of UN-Awarded Purple Hearts belong to the brothers that come home with the type wounds that can not be seen.....the wounds in their minds and hearts --- that haunt them to this day... They didn't get any color - yet they still live in their nightmares.

I truly despise the bastards like Kerry and Murtha that "worked" the war for personal gain and ambitions.....parading around with their Political Positions and Holier than Thou attitude --and they're LIARS at best and TRAITORS at worse.

F'em all. They are an embarrassment to the warrior ethic.

Semper Fi
317 posted on 01/14/2006 8:39:37 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: All

Marine NOT afraid to not be "PC" Ping!

Young Marine Blasts Rep. Murtha at Town Hall Meeting
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1558047/posts

"Yes sir my name is Mark Seavey and I just want to thank you for coming up here. Until about a month ago I was Sergeant Mark Seavey infantry squad leader, I returned from Afghanistan. My question to you, (applause)

"Like yourself I dropped out of college two years ago to volunteer to go to Afghanistan, and I went and I came back. If I didn't have a herniated disk now I would volunteer to go to Iraq in a second with my troops, three of which have already volunteered to go to Iraq. I keep hearing you say how you talk to the troops and the troops are demoralized, and I really resent that characterization. (applause) The morale of the troops that I talk to is phenomenal, which is why my troops are volunteering to go back, despite the hardships they had to endure in Afghanistan."

Murtha's War Hero Status Called Into Question
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557630/posts

Too bad the "Move on FReepers" don't have a clue!



318 posted on 01/14/2006 8:44:21 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a Service Man or Woman today?)
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To: river rat

In this case the evidence is smack dab on Murtha's face for all to see. I don't see anything resembling war wounds.

It appears this guy worked the same formula as Kerry....One ticket punching tour, then running for political office.


319 posted on 01/14/2006 8:47:11 AM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

The "Move On" folks -- aren't still carrying the memories and obligations to fallen brothers that many of us are still dealing with......

The "Move On" folks -- don't have brother's names on that cold stone Wall on the Mall....

The "Move On" folks -- don't have any vested interest in exposing and destroying the lying traitorous bastards of OUR era....

Yes, I'll "Move On" just as soon at the battle is over, and the bastards are dead or dishonored and we're pissing on their graves...

The country STILL owes the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth - an unpayable debt....
THEY were singularly responsible for preventing Kerry from becoming President....
Thank GOD, they were not ready to "Move On"..

Folks - there are STILL a lot of enemies out there that DESERVE our attention -- and we OWE it to the dead that can not speak for themselves or salvage their reputations which these traitorous cowards besmirched..

Semper Fi


320 posted on 01/14/2006 9:03:55 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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