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Bush: Iran Intends to Nuke Israel
NewsMax ^ | 1/14/06 | NewsMax

Posted on 01/14/2006 11:41:48 AM PST by wagglebee

In his sharpest comments to date on the Iranian nuclear crisis, President Bush warned Friday that Iran is seeking to produce nuclear weapons and intends to use them to destroy Israel.

Speaking at a joint press conference in Washington, D.C. with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, Bush warned:

"I want to remind you that the current president of Iran has announced that the destruction of Israel is an important part of their agenda. And that's unacceptable. And the development of a nuclear weapon, it seems like to me, would make them a step closer to achieving that objective."

The president said that Iran's nuclear ambitions pose a threat, not just to the Jewish state, but to the world.

"Iran armed with a nuclear weapon poses a great threat to the security of the world. Countries such as ours have a great obligation to step up, working together to send a message to the Iranians that their behavior, trying to clandestinely develop a nuclear weapon, or using the guise of a civilian nuclear program to attain a nuclear weapon, is unacceptable."

For her part Chancellor Merkel added, "To Germany, it is totally unacceptable, what Iran said recently, especially regarding Israel and the Holocaust."

Last month, Iranian president Mamoud Ahmadinejad said that historical coverage of the Holocaust had been "exaggerated." In October he urged that Israel be "wiped off the map."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; amadmanegad; annihilation; iran; irannukes; islam; isreal; wot
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If nothing changes, I see Israel nuking Iran before summer.
1 posted on 01/14/2006 11:41:49 AM PST by wagglebee
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To: SJackson

Ping.


2 posted on 01/14/2006 11:42:45 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
This is a very dangerous situation.

Someone will get nuked ... just a matter of who will do it first - Israel or Iran.
3 posted on 01/14/2006 11:44:41 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: wagglebee

Notice how dead quiet the left is on Iran?


4 posted on 01/14/2006 11:44:56 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: wagglebee

This is America giving Israel green light and the EU resigning itself to what must be.


5 posted on 01/14/2006 11:45:13 AM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: wagglebee
No doubt the press and the left wing Dem's will have a field day with this but anyone with half a brain can see where Iran is heading on this. If Israel isn't hit by the end of the year it will be only because of divine intervention.

At the risk of all sorts of arrows coming my way .... I think that Israel will be hit by a nuclear weapon by June of this year and perhaps as early as May.
6 posted on 01/14/2006 11:47:19 AM PST by Russ_in_NC
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To: wagglebee

Whether it be Israel, the US alone or with NATO support, some entity has to make sure that Iran never builds a nuclear weapon. The destruction of Israel would mark the end to life as we know it in the ME.


7 posted on 01/14/2006 11:48:19 AM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

spineless hypocrites.


8 posted on 01/14/2006 11:49:09 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: wagglebee

I do not see why we do not make a public statement to the affect that if Iran ever launches so much as a single missile
towards Israel all of Iran will be massively targeted and it will cease to exist as a country capable of ever again supporting a human population....
Just tell um


9 posted on 01/14/2006 11:50:20 AM PST by injin
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To: wagglebee

Nobody will be able to say that intellegence is wrong, this idiot has come right out and said it. He needs to be destroyed.


10 posted on 01/14/2006 11:50:33 AM PST by The Mayor ( As a child of God, prayer is kind of like calling home everyday.)
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To: wagglebee

my feeling is that we are in a high stakes poker game and Iran keeps trying to overplay their hand believing we are the weaker player.



11 posted on 01/14/2006 11:50:58 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: wagglebee

The US will not make a move until Israel is nuked. The Democrats would call for Bush's removal stating that the weapons information was fabricated.

I say it is Israels move. Nuke 'em Dano!


12 posted on 01/14/2006 11:51:25 AM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: Russ_in_NC

You're not the only one who thinks something is going to happen, and happen in the not-too-distant future. Oil futures, which had been downtrending for a while after Katrina, started spiking back up around Christmas. The only explanation I can see is that traders are worried about a mideast conflict soon


13 posted on 01/14/2006 11:51:25 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: nmh

I don't think Iran actually has a weapon, or they would have used it. Israel for certain has them, and I think this is Bush's way of giving them the "green light" to act as they see necessary to protect themselves.


14 posted on 01/14/2006 11:51:31 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Let's hope Israel doesn't go along with any nonsense the UN proposes.


15 posted on 01/14/2006 11:52:16 AM PST by hershey (``)
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To: wagglebee
If nothing changes, I see Israel nuking Iran before summer.

Israel has no need to nuke any of those backwater, 12th century countries. They will just do standard air strikes on any suspected nuclear sites, infrastructure, and military bases. Remember, Israel can beat any of those guys in a matter of days with air power alone. No need for nukes. Besides, if they used nukes, their relationship with us would be, as they would say, kaput! If they stick to standard air strikes, don't be surprised to hear that we helped them out with some stealth fighters/bombers.

My 2 cents.

16 posted on 01/14/2006 11:52:26 AM PST by America_Right (Sen. George Allen in '08! Get the name out there!)
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To: wagglebee
Newsmax is reckless and irresponsible. You cannot arrive at the headline from reading Bush's quotes in this "article."

One can interpret Bush's quotes to arrive at an opinion about Iran's intentions, but Bush did not state that Iran intends to nuke Israel. He merely warned of the dangers of a nuclear-capable Iran.

Newsmax is a disservice.

17 posted on 01/14/2006 11:53:26 AM PST by Chunga (Mock The Left)
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To: nmh

I doubt very much that Israel would use a nuke to neuter the Iranian threat. They would use convention methods to destroy Iran's nuclear research and military centers, if anything.

The use of nukes would turn the world against Israel's tactics. If it must attack, it will be attacking by proxy for the Western nations. Keeping them on board is important for Israel.


18 posted on 01/14/2006 11:53:40 AM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: wagglebee

I believe you are right ... still it's getting more and more interesting out there.


19 posted on 01/14/2006 11:53:52 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: Names Ash Housewares
They won't comment until the leaders of Islam do...


20 posted on 01/14/2006 11:54:36 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: wagglebee

Yeah, could be.

If I were the leader of Israel I'd consider having a stroke around this time simply because of the incredible stress.

If I were an Iranian, I'd look for cover.


21 posted on 01/14/2006 11:54:37 AM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: wagglebee

Typical NewsMax journalism. Bush said no such thing.

He may think it, and it might be true.

But he never said it.


22 posted on 01/14/2006 11:54:50 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Russ_in_NC

I don't think that Iran will have a viable weapon by then. Israel's intelligence in the Middle East is better than they let on, I think they will launch a preemptive strike well before it's too late.


23 posted on 01/14/2006 11:55:22 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: DoughtyOne

But mistakes happen. Who knows how far along they are with nukes? Don't kid yourself. They'll use them in less than a heartbeat to remove Israel. They are chomping at the bit to totally eliminate the Jews in Israel.


24 posted on 01/14/2006 11:56:14 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: injin
I do not see why we do not make a public statement to the affect that if Iran ever launches so much as a single missile towards Israel all of Iran will be massively targeted

First, because the US has no mutual-defense treaty with Israel. Congress would need to approve one that authorizes the President to engage in a nuke attack on a country attacking Israel

Second, if the US exterminates Iran, then it's all-out, open war with every Islamic state in the world. With Iraq, we didn't exterminate the Iraqi people, we went in to get the leadership. With Iran, the response would need to be to hang the mullahcracy

25 posted on 01/14/2006 11:57:43 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: wagglebee
Andrea Mitchell says there's nothing other than diplomacy the west can use... the sites are tooooooo forrrrrrrtified. ; )
26 posted on 01/14/2006 11:57:44 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: Russ_in_NC
They will never get the chance, Israel has other plans that do not include them sitting idly by waiting for someone to help. Gods chosen people are not from New Orleans.
27 posted on 01/14/2006 11:58:49 AM PST by Camel Joe (WANTED: Hot Tar and Feathers... I've Got a Rail)
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To: Reagan Man

I think that Israel will launch a coordinated strike on Iran (without prior US knowledge of course and be done with it.) I think we have already given them new planes and weapons systems for this task. We may take out Iran's anti aircraft positions along side them. It makes sense that we want to be flying the same planes as Israel so that we are indistinguishable if one gets shot down. We can maintain plausible deniability by pointing to the fact that we were in the process of withdrawing from the Middle East at the time of the attack which would seem to support our claim. In reality, we have no intention of getting into a ground war with Iran because we would run the risk of dragging China, Russia or North Korea into it.


28 posted on 01/14/2006 11:58:55 AM PST by willyd (No nation has ever taxed its citizens into prosperity)
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To: injin
if Iran ever launches so much as a single missile towards Israel all of Iran will be massively targeted

Problem is you would kill about 20 million innocent iranians as collarteral damage along with the 20 million guilty ones.

29 posted on 01/14/2006 11:58:59 AM PST by staytrue (Annoy the Media. Vote Republican.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I doubt very much that Israel would use a nuke to neuter the Iranian threat. They would use convention methods to destroy Iran's nuclear research and military centers, if anything.

Unless the way and time it takes to construct a hardened facility, conventional weapons should do the trick.

30 posted on 01/14/2006 12:00:37 PM PST by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: nmh
I was referring to an Israeli first strike MO. I didn't make any case for Iran's behavior. You and I agree there.

I would add, that if Israel takes a nuclear first strike, the Iranian leadership better have on their level 5000 asbestos underpants.
31 posted on 01/14/2006 12:01:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: wagglebee
I can only hope your right but I've got strong vib's that Israel is in big trouble. These idiots in Iran are literally out of control. That and the fact that Russia seems to have no problem selling them anything they need or want, the chances of a black market suitcase size weapon getting into Israel are pretty good.
32 posted on 01/14/2006 12:02:11 PM PST by Russ_in_NC
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To: staytrue

There's an Iranian FReeper that posts here. Name's Kashayar or something like that. Maybe we'll get the real story from him instead of NewsMax's "Remember the Maine!" journalism.


34 posted on 01/14/2006 12:02:41 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: NY Attitude

Agreed.


35 posted on 01/14/2006 12:02:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: nmh

Iran is still years away from building The Bomb.
At least that's what I read....


36 posted on 01/14/2006 12:04:46 PM PST by traumer
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To: staytrue
when making such a statement of Deterrence, one cannot think about what the casualty result would be . Did we worry about what the Russian casualties would be when we announced the MAD policy? Of course it is implied . The idea is to get them thinking what they themselves stand to lose if they continue on the present track. It worked with Russia/the Soviet Union ,
and Iran is a small fish by comparison.
If the USA cannot find the justification to make such a statement Israel certainly should. It's time to put the cards on the table and stop with all the spook games.
37 posted on 01/14/2006 12:06:03 PM PST by injin
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To: wagglebee
I think Iran is at this moment fitting nuclear warheads on missiles,Thanks Pakistan/China/Russia take your pick it is only money in the end!
38 posted on 01/14/2006 12:06:06 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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To: America_Right
Remember, Israel can beat any of those guys in a matter of days with air power alone. No need for nukes.

Maybe, and maybe not. The Iranian nuclear and weapons facilities are hardened beyond anything Saddam even dreamed of. Part of that is geography, the Iranians have some pretty rugged mountains to bury stuff in.

It will take some pretty effective "bunker buster" type conventional weapons to take out the Iranian nuclear facilities, and it may or may not be possible with existing Israeli weapons, or even existing US weapons.

39 posted on 01/14/2006 12:06:27 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: willyd
We as a nation led by Republicans fear none of those you mentioned. Oil embargo's on the other hand could bring us to our knees in the long run. I'm just glad W has been filling the reserve. Chavez has just threatened us with an embargo for opposing sales of military planes with US Military parts in them from those commies in Spain.
40 posted on 01/14/2006 12:07:30 PM PST by Camel Joe (WANTED: Hot Tar and Feathers... I've Got a Rail)
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To: wagglebee

Russia has already given them nukes.



41 posted on 01/14/2006 12:08:23 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: wagglebee
We have the space-based capability to find and pinpoint sources of radiation and identify them by their "signatures" as atomic weapons. Any nukes that Iran develops will never leave its borders unless we want them to.

It is important to remember that nuclear weapons were developed over 60 years ago - - before computers, chips, and color television. The technological advances that have been made in everything since the development of a-bombs is simply beyond any rational description or deliberation. It's like comparing a magnifying glass to the Hubble. A-bombs are dinosaurs.

We also have the capability to detonate atomic bombs from space. If Iran or any other country attempts to launch a nuclear weapon at the US or an American ally will succed only in bringing apocalypse upon itself. The only question is whether we detonate the weapon on the ground or at the optimal latitude for maximum destruction.

42 posted on 01/14/2006 12:09:27 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Chunga
Newsmax is reckless and irresponsible. You cannot arrive at the headline from reading Bush's quotes in this "article."

I watched the press conference, and this is what President Bush said. His words were something to the effect of "Iran's stated policy is the destruction of Israel, and Nuclear weapons brings them closer to this objective." Seems close enough too me.

43 posted on 01/14/2006 12:10:02 PM PST by IonInsights
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Notice how dead quiet the left is on Iran?

I noticed it. I wonder why?

44 posted on 01/14/2006 12:10:05 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Radix
If I were an Iranian, I'd look for cover.

Very very deep cover, if one must live near potential target areas. Fallout shelters if one lives farther away.

45 posted on 01/14/2006 12:10:32 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Russ_in_NC

Don't forget that we will also be targeted using small nukes, either in containers, by rail, ship in several large cities..........

The problem is, they know that they may get nuked also, and.......the idea of being Martyr's complicates matters. One nation with nukes vs another with nukes is a standoff......because most nations find being a Martyr is not a good idea. This is the problem.......the get virgins in heaven.....or wherever they end up....


46 posted on 01/14/2006 12:11:52 PM PST by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: staytrue
Problem is you would kill about 20 million innocent iranians as collarteral damage along with the 20 million guilty ones.


Could you ask all the innocent Iranians to move to one part of the country, and all the guilty ones to move to another part of the country?

I am curious what you feel would be the appropriate response to a nuclear attack on Israel?

During the cold war, the United States and the Soviet Union well understood what would occur if one side attacked with nuclear weapons.

As far as I know, Israel has not threaten the survival of any of it's neighbors. The threat of first use of nuclear weapons has only come from one side.

So, if Iran managed to explode a nuclear weapon in Israel, what should the rest of the world do?

47 posted on 01/14/2006 12:12:11 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: SauronOfMordor

The only explanation I can see is that traders are worried about a mideast conflict soon

Well, that's always a strong probability. Part of the price of doing business with them. But, I think you got it: a big one is imminent. I hope we're both wrong.

48 posted on 01/14/2006 12:13:11 PM PST by SuzyQue
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To: wagglebee
Oh, it is unacceptable. Must not be happening then. Certainly nothing unacceptable ever happens. We had all those genocides and killing fields and terror famines and world wars because they were so acceptable.
49 posted on 01/14/2006 12:14:10 PM PST by JasonC
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To: America_Right
Israel has no need to nuke any of those backwater, 12th century countries

All of the entrances/exits can be destroyed by conventional weapons. Then, it doesn't matter what's underground if you can't get to it.

50 posted on 01/14/2006 12:14:34 PM PST by jslade (Liberalism ALWAYS accomplishes the exact opposite of it's stated intent!)
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