Posted on 01/14/2006 12:28:46 PM PST by saquin
A couple of thoughts:
How long did Randolph avoid capture? And he never left the US.
OBL could be dead. An NRO writer says hed died last December according to off the record Iranian sources. If he was/is in Iran killing him is probably not possible.
let me get this straight:
- there was a planned dinner with AZ, and US intel found out about it
- this cleric had a dinner invite with AZ
- he attended the dinner, left at midnight, then returned immediately after the airstrike
I think there might be some cleric who is $25 million dollars richer tonight.
I think the same thing.
I'm also thinking: If we killed all these innocent civilians where are the disturbing atrocity photos? I don't think the Pakistanis or NYT would miss that sort of opportunity to drum up anti-US sentiment. Has anyone seen any photos to back up other aspects of the story?
IHMO the jury is still out till we hears something definitive from our side.
FYI: Joint operations are between U.S. branches of service, whereas combined operations are between different countries.
Yes, I'm sure the six children were openly aiding and abetting the terrorists. Good grief, get a grip. Given that culture, I doubt any female victims had any say in the matter, either.
Go away.
Just so you know, I wrote that post before the dead were identified. My sympathy for the children lies mainly with the poor kids being born into and raised by a bunch of midieval tribesmen that aid and abet known terrorists instead of being born into a modern free society.
BTW, you can save your righteous indignancy for someone else who might care what you think.
I have no doubt that you care little about anything not revolving directly around EricT.
Uh, yeah, sure.
Local officials in the Bajaur district, where the airstrike happened, said 18 civilians had been killed in the attack, including six children.
That is definitely an artillery round...probably 152 or 155mm. Just popped over from some good commentary at American Thinker on this issue. Link: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5163
I've spent 18 years in the U.S. Army Field Artillery and am still serving in a MA National Guard FA battalion. I knew in an instant what it was. A 19-year old private fresh out of training could tell you in one glance, it is that obvious.
The expert quoted at Amer Thinker believes that it is fused, but I disagree...it looks more like the flat-topped "storage plugs" we use here. Artillery fuses are either black or brass in color and a good 4 to 5 inches in length, and cone-shaped. The only other device fitted to the "nose" of an arty round is a "lifting plug" (which looks like an eye-bolt) so that a small crane or hoist can lift and move the round onto trucks for transport.
Some might say that the newspaper made a legitimate mistake in regards to describing the ordnance, but even a cursory look through a book on military hardware would yield the correct results.
If this was "just a mistake", then it speaks volumes of the sloppiness of the New York Times and its reporting.
That is definitely an artillery round...probably 152 or 155mm. Just popped over from some good commentary at American Thinker on this issue. Link: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5163
I've spent 18 years in the U.S. Army Field Artillery and am still serving in a MA National Guard FA battalion. I knew in an instant what it was. A 19-year old private fresh out of training could tell you in one glance, it is that obvious.
The expert quoted at Amer Thinker believes that it is fused, but I disagree...it looks more like the flat-topped "storage plugs" we use here. Artillery fuses are either black or brass in color and a good 4 to 5 inches in length, and cone-shaped. The only other device fitted to the "nose" of an arty round is a "lifting plug" (which looks like an eye-bolt) so that a small crane or hoist can lift and move the round onto trucks for transport.
Some might say that the newspaper made a legitimate mistake in regards to describing the ordnance, but even a cursory look through a book on military hardware would yield the correct results.
If this was "just a mistake", then it speaks volumes of the sloppiness of the New York Times and its reporting.
hmmm.. Faked Photo, a Predator Drone would not be able to take off, much less be able to launch an Artillary Shell..
Predators can carry at least a single Hellfire missle which weighs around 100 pounds. A single 155mm artillery shell weighs in at 97 pounds. So the Predator could carry it, but airdropped delivery of an artillery round is unlikely.
might as well throw a rock.. you need to add to the artillary shell a cartridge that will contain fuel, guidance system, fins, etc.. Remember, this is part of a "Missile" according to the NY TImes, your weight may be correct for the "Shell" itself, but triple or quadruple that for a rocket body that will turn it into a missile.
The US forces never captured Adolf Hitler after ~4 years of WWII participation - does that mean WWII and/or FDR's presidency was a failure?
We'll never know for sure if we got anyone because, they took the bodies away. Sounds like the military and the CIA had good targets.
Sorry, I meant to reply to "saquin's" post about the Predator being able to carry that weight. I agree that dropping an artillery shell just won't work, unless of course you hit someone on the head with it. That likely would cause great bodily harm.
There are some other interesting things about this picture. The caption says house? Those walls appear to be about 10 feet tall and at least 18" thick. No windows? And the door seems strange for a home also. Where is the furniture? Roof appears to have collapsed without damaging the walls without leaving any debris hanging...
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