Posted on 01/15/2006 4:30:21 AM PST by Khashayar
Iran on Sunday commissioned its second domestically built submarine, a craft that can fire missiles and torpedoes simultaneously, state-run radio reported.
The report said the submarine, named Ghadir, was Iran's second homemade submarine, and was unveiled during the third day of military maneuvers in southern Iran.
Iran's armed forces began their biggest military maneuvers Friday in the Sea of Oman and the Indian Ocean on Iran's territorial waters close to Pakistan and involved submarines, warships, missiles, jet fighters and gunships.
In May, Iran officially launched the production of the locally built submarine, claiming it was a stealth craft.
Its name, Ghadir, is derived from a site in the Arabian Peninsula holy to Shiite Muslims, the overwhelming majority of Iran's 69 million people.
Iran produces the Shahab-3 missile, capable of reaching Israel and U.S. forces stationed in the region. Since 1992, it also has produced its own tanks, armored personnel carriers, missiles and a fighter plane.
It would have been a good thing to have had him slumped over the hatch.
You people can make jokes and laugh all you want but I, personally, would take this sub seriously. I am an old diesel powered submariner who served for a time on the small "T" boats. In fact, the same one Jimmy Carter served on but not at the same time (Thank the good Lord). They usually have 4 torpedo tubes forward but I do think they are saying too much when it comes to missle launches. Maybe hand held from the deck These boats can be very quiet and hard to detect when running submerged on battery. I remember eluding the Navy's best back in the 60's. Often they knew we were there but not exactly where. I believe this sub could be a major threat but would most likely have to stay close to home and not a deep water vessel. IMHO!
Most U.S Navy, and other nations ships, are painted 'haze grey' to make them less visible.
It seems that the Iranians missed this subtle difference and want their 'great' submarine to be seen.
As a former ASW guy I can assure you that we will be able to detect and destroy these boats if it becomes necessary.
We have technology available for dealing with exactly this type of threat.
D/E boats do have a low amplitude signature because they do not have to continually run reactor coolant pumps, but they are NOT undetectable.
After getting "pinged" and the firing solution completed.. makes a good target.. and nobody would ever know it was gutted like a fish except the sonar guys(the pingees).. To the owners of this target.. it would just disappear.. by mysterious circumstances..
I have heard these brags before. There once was a gunnery officer on a certain surface ship who made the brag we never got close enough to their ship to shoot a torpedo at them. Our captain gave them a picture of their ship taken by our periscope. It took 3 pictures to get the whole ship shown because they were so close. Sure you can detect them but sometimes you can't find them. Thermo layers and other evasive devices often make the task very hard.
When it is submerged, it doesn't make any difference what color the ship is painted. Ever see the movie Operation Pink Petticoat?
Cary Grant, Tony Curtis.
and the great line = "Out of confusion comes profits". said by Tony, the boat's "scrounger".
It indeed looks like it was made in someone's home.
I saw it, it was named 'Operation Petticoat' with no pink in it.
In the movie, the pink sub was sighted by the Japs and announced to their forces. We intercepted the radio message and were looking for it also because we had no pink sub and thought it was an enemy trap.
In the real world, movies are a welcome diversion and fantasy, but seldon reflect the real truth. I wouldn't build any strategy on what happens in a movie.
Looks like a one way ticket to me.
Cary Grant, Tony Curtis.
and the great line = "Out of confusion comes profits". said by Tony, the boat's "scrounger".
That is the movie. I remember our boat was often that color when we put the red lead on before the finish coat. Once we painted the inside T**tie pink sand. The old man thought it was nice. It was very hard to keep clean but it was "different" than the usual light green.
There are tenders and then ther are tenders. This puppy looks like it just might fit in a container, which could be "lost" at sea near a port or shipping lane...
Hey, I had one of those!
Addenda. Does the green color bely anything about its operational depth.....or is this just a show boat?
Green is the color of islam.
How would it get out of the container though? (wink..just razing you a bit) Where there is a will, there is a way and we should put nothing past the enemy.
Good point. Maybe it wouldn't?
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