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Iran commissions locally built submarine (PHOTOS)
By: Associated Press ^

Posted on 01/15/2006 4:30:21 AM PST by Khashayar

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To: MNJohnnie; Smokin' Joe; penelopesire; Jack Hammer

Guys, the talk about the depth of the water brings something else to mind:

Visibility from above using radar/laser for non-acoustical detection.

These mini subs are good for only one thing: suicide missions. To use on of these to take out a oil tanker would be a waste of submarine.


181 posted on 01/15/2006 2:39:09 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon

"These mini subs are good for only one thing: suicide missions."

Fits the Islamist MO. Thanks for the ping.


182 posted on 01/15/2006 2:43:40 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: andy58-in-nh

LOL! Dufus on another secret trip to Cambodia.


183 posted on 01/15/2006 3:40:53 PM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited
I bet this joke is incredibly noisy and we can 'hear it' from miles away.

Depends. If it's running on batteries, it's probably fairly quite. It won't be going all the fast, so flow noise won't be much of a factor, and electric motors are pretty quiet. However, if it's running on the surface, or snorting its diesels while at periscope depth, it's toast. If we are deaf and can't hear it, the radar in the P-3 and various helicopters will see it. Then they'll kill it.

184 posted on 01/15/2006 5:15:54 PM PST by El Gato (The Second Amendment is the Reset Button of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Axlrose
Its going to be diesel/electric so no when its stopped its going to be as quiet as any western nations nuclear submarine. If not quieter.

Moving or not it ain't gonna make a lick of difference. From what I can tell, it looks to be made out of steel. Do you know what happens when sonar hits steel?
185 posted on 01/15/2006 5:33:16 PM PST by YoungHickey
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To: Jack Hammer; Fred Nerks
You don't have to be an "expert." Sooner or later, after the US Navy gets done with it, it will look like this:


186 posted on 01/15/2006 9:58:38 PM PST by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: PeteB570

Looks like a tiny little toy diesel boat to me :)

One MK 48 will make mincemeat out of it :)


187 posted on 01/16/2006 1:35:39 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: YoungHickey
Moving or not it ain't gonna make a lick of difference. From what I can tell, it looks to be made out of steel. Do you know what happens when sonar hits steel?

Exactly. The Iranians might get in one good hit before we start dropping sonar buoys and make the whole Persian Gulf louder than section A at a Metallica concert. It's not easy for one side to hide a sub if the other side feels no need to hide.

188 posted on 01/16/2006 7:11:17 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Khashayar

"We haven't been this close to water since inspecting the reactor. Next time, we bring soap!"
189 posted on 01/16/2006 7:29:28 PM PST by Libloather (Charter member - VRWC - # EIB-04151982)
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To: Mad_as_heck

Ok this just a thouht..but what if they can mass produce these small limited use subs like the Japanese dis in WWII the use them in the gulf as a "wolf Pack to attach shipping. Also how big are these things? From what I could see they are fairly small..could they be placed in a Cargo Container. Imagine a few of these launched just before it's Mother Ship makes for port. As I said just a thought....


190 posted on 01/17/2006 10:23:53 AM PST by FlatLandBeer
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To: sure_fine

I've seen more powerful subs in a game of Battleship.


191 posted on 01/17/2006 10:29:29 AM PST by VanDeKoik (Have a Merry Tuesday and a Happy Day After Thursday.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Only question is which is better, our solution or their plan? Only combat can determine that for sure

China will be watching closely and taking notes.

192 posted on 01/24/2006 8:19:14 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one))
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To: Khashayar
Who are they kidding? They bought the Hunley!
193 posted on 01/24/2006 8:20:51 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: AmericaUnited
Ahhh! You beat me.
194 posted on 01/24/2006 8:21:18 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Khashayar

Are we sure that isn't a Japanese mini-sub from WW2 that's been rehabbed???


195 posted on 01/24/2006 8:26:21 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: sure_fine

Wonder how long they've had these. Look at the picture - - looks pretty rusty around the water's edge.....


196 posted on 01/24/2006 8:28:48 AM PST by duckbutt ( If you let a smile be your umbrella, then most likely your butt will get soaking wet.)
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To: Libloather

Every time this picture is posted, I can't get over how leaky the periscope seals are. It couldn't need more than 30 psi to run that thing up. I wonder if the rest of the sub is built to these same exacting standards. To detect it we could just follow the oil slick.


197 posted on 01/24/2006 9:07:51 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one))
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To: dglang

It's green camoflage to blend in with the forest......


198 posted on 01/24/2006 9:14:30 AM PST by AmericanDave (More COWBELL....................)
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To: wildcatf4f3

You do realize, do you not, that the people of Iran are NOT the same as the crazy tyrants who are currently oppressing them? You make yourself look pretty foolish, if not uncivilized, when you wish death to all Iranians.


199 posted on 01/24/2006 9:16:18 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: Darnright

I wish no such thing. The point is that onceevents are set in motion they develope a momemtum of their own. Most of the people killed in WWII were civilians who had very little to do with the policies that started the war. The Iranian people my be wonderful but they are going along with their currrent govt. They are no where near rising up against the Mullahs because of their own nationalism. This will lead to war. And war doesn't care about individuals, it steamrolls the guilty and innocent equally. So fine distinctions over policy orinterpretations of the nature of societies, these are banal in the face of the violence that ensues. 9-11 came very close to me and my family... therefore I have a vengence that others do not. But fear not that this vengence is hard to come by for once awakened it spreads like wildfire


200 posted on 01/24/2006 6:36:02 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (the friend of my enemy is my enemy)
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